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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 14 21:12:48 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Nov 14 21:08:14 2015. Thank you. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 15 07:51:55 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 13 19:18:05 2015. Making dogmatic statements that anyone who disagrees with you is "either foolish or ignorant" is itself either foolish, ignorant, or malicious. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 15 10:38:44 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 13 19:18:05 2015. It has never been conclusively proven that Oswald acted alone. That is what the Warren Commission stated and it has been widly discredited by many, not only by a few "conspiracy theorists".There have been volumes written criticizing the Warren Report. The controversy continues to this day and probably never will be resolved. You are foolish or ignorant to believe otherwise. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 15 11:52:39 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Nov 15 07:51:55 2015. Again, I do not make that statement to people who disagree with me, I make that statement to people who disagree with the FACTS. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 15 11:56:13 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 15 10:38:44 2015. No, it has not been "widely discredited" by any legitimate sources. All of the conspiracy theories about Oswald acting alone are all implausible in some way that the lone gunman theory is not.There are plenty of works of fiction that are published, they do not change reality, regardless of how many people want to believe it. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 15 12:09:49 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 13 19:18:05 2015. As for that which has been proven, it has been conclusively proven, to the extent these things can be proven, that Oswald acted alone, and fired the gun from the Texas Schoolbook Depository, which gunshot killed Kennedy. Believing otherwise is either foolish or ignorant.I believe there is excellent proof that only one gun fired shots at Kennedy and that Oswald was guilty of murdering him. However, where is the proof that (a) he wasn't closely directed by someone or (b) (much less likely, I agree, but I don't think disproved) that he was accompanied by someone else to the School Depository? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 15 12:22:46 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 15 12:09:49 2015. I purposely omitted that. That's because Oswald's motivation can't possibly be known scientifically. But this has been studied by numerous people over decades, and there is scant evidence that anyone motivated Oswald other than his own personal politics and delusions of grandeur. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 15 13:20:51 2015, in response to Re: Dorothy Kilgallen, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Nov 13 19:44:00 2015. Thanks, i'm saving that. |
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Re: 1981 Lower Manhattan Blackout |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 15 19:55:41 2015, in response to Re: 1981 Lower Manhattan Blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Nov 13 13:53:41 2015. There was no mistake to admit so I dont have to admit i was wrong.I stand by my statement that it generally takes 7 or 8 minutes to exit the Hudson Yards station. Just because someone can do it faster by knowing which car and door to be in, or by running up the stairs, or walking up the escalator does not change what I said. I already stated how I went back and timed myself here: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1371743 And in the other thread linked there where I broke down the timing. I think the second time I did it in six minutes because I didn't have to wait for an elevator that time. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 15 20:19:45 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 14 21:03:55 2015. I stated that it has been 50 years since the big northeast blackout. R36 disputed that by stating the following:"Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Nov 14 16:45:59 2015, in response to Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 9 13:28:14 2015. No, it's only been twelve years… and it happened in August." The only logical assumption to that statement is that he was unaware of the 1965 blackout by referring to the 2003 blackout as if it were the only major Northeast blackout, not to even mention the 1977 blackout. So you are the one who is misinterpreting his post not me. And you are calling me senile? You sir may not be senile but you do have a reading comprehension problem. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 09:43:38 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 15 20:19:45 2015. No, it was obvious from his post that he considers “Big Northeast Blackout” to be an accurate description only of the 2003 blackout, and not of the 1965 one, whether or not he is aware of the 1965 one. I assumed that R36 is aware of the 1965 one simply because he has both posted here for a long time, and would be aware of an occasionally recurring topic, because he is also smart and just simply giving him the benefit of the doubt. I could still be wrong about that, but I decided to respond the way I did anyway because I found your post snidely dismissive rather than simply giving him the benefit of the doubt.Anyway, the 1977 blackout can’t at all be referred to as a “Big Northeast Blackout” as it was entirely confined to a single city and would be more accurately be referred to by the name of that city. LOL! You complaining about reading comprehension. That’s rich. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 10:05:57 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 09:43:38 2015. Strawman!Check your reading comprehension. Where did I refer to the 1977 blackout as the "big northeast backout"? I didn't. I simply said we had a blackout in 1977. It is obviously clear from his post as I showed you that he was unaware of the 1965 "big northeast blackout" as it was referred to. He did that by erroneously correcting me saying. It occurred only 12 years ago and not fifty, and that it occurred in August, not November. There is nothing unclear in his statement. He is denying the occurrence of a 1965 blackout and that needed to be corrected which I did. Yes i was harsh because you don't accuse someone of having inaccurate facts when you are the one who is wrong. There was no benefit of the doubt to give him because he was very clear in his remark. Your assumption that he knew about the 1965 blackout just because he has posted here for a long time is also not wise, because even if he is old enough to remember it, he might have grown up in another part of the country. Posting here for a long time proves nothing in this case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 10:19:22 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 10:05:57 2015. You were the one who brought up the straw man. No one mentioned the 1977 blackout until you did.It is not “obviously clear.” Once again, your powers of observation fail you. Your assumption that he knew about the 1965 blackout just because he has posted here for a long time is also not wise, because even if he is old enough to remember it, he might have grown up in another part of the country. Posting here for a long time proves nothing in this case. LOL! His posting here for a long time does not at all imply that he was old enough to remember it! I know for a fact he’s not. Even if I knew nothing about him, I would still not assume that he was old enough to remember it as most people are not. That’s why I accused you of being old and senile. You are not aware that because the median age is less than 54-55, most people are not old enough to remember events from back then. So if you know nothing else about someone, the odds are they are not over 55. You made that same assumption about me, assuming that I was in my 60s or older for some reason elsewhere in this thread. What it does prove is that he would have likely encountered previous blackout threads. But that’s not important because I just gave him the benefit of the doubt and you didn’t. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 11:53:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 10:19:22 2015. Quit talking about extraneous factors to divert attention.Fact 1. I was the first one to mention the 1977 blackout here. Fact 2. You accused me of calling it the "big northeast blackout" which I never did. You are clearly in error. Fact 3. It is obviously clear R 36 was unaware of the 1965 blackout. The reason is unimportant. I stated there was a big northeast blackout in 1965 fifty years ago to the date in November. (ttrue statement). R36 stated that the northeast blackout occurred in August not November and 12 years ago, not 50. Therefore he had to be unaware of any previous northeast blackout. SHOW ME WHAT THE DOUBT IS! And don't change the subject to median age of the population with has nothing to do with what we are discussing. Since there is no doubt, it is not possible to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Having encountered previous blackout threads is also irrelevant because he could have temporarily forgot and made a hasty posting without thinking. Anyway I do not see him responding that he was aware of the 1965 blackout. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:10:59 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 09:43:38 2015. No, it was obvious from his post that he considers “Big Northeast Blackout” to be an accurate description only of the 2003 blackout, and not of the 1965 one, whether or not he is aware of the 1965 one.But that's a pretty silly interpretation. The 1965 blackout was in fact a "big northeast blackout." It wasn't the biggest ever to date, but it was certainly big. Responding: I wasn't talking about the Augst 14, 2003 blackout. I remember that one too. I was talking about the November 9, 1965 backout. Yes, there were blackouts before you were born. to No, it's only been twelve years… and it happened in August. strikes me as quite reasonable. Of course, he could have been more clear by having a headline that said "Today is fifty years since the first big northeast blackout," but perfection is not a requirement on SubChat. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 12:25:29 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:10:59 2015. I am a little confused by your comment.What strikes you as quite reasonable? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:33:39 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 12:25:29 2015. Responding [passage of quoted text] to [second passage of quoted text]. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 12:57:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:33:39 2015. But since that didn't happen, you're talking about a hypothetical situation, right? (if i understand this correctly) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 13:03:55 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:33:39 2015. I think I understand now. You are saying my response to R 36 that Spider Pig criticized seemed quite appropriate to you. Is that correct? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 13:05:22 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 12:57:32 2015. Since what didn't happen?BB did in fact respond with first quoted text passage to second quoted text passage. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:10:49 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Nov 14 20:40:17 2015. But he denied that there was a blackout fifty years ago just because he never heard of it and that was wrong and incorrect.No, that's not what happened at all. He took a subtle and light-hearted swipe at you for making the assumptions you made and the wording you used in your original post. He likely knows full well that there were previous big blackouts. But don't feel bad. This method of response has also tricked up a select few others here who have misinterpreted the response and gone on to raise all manner of holy hell serious business, to the amusement of many here, but to the detriment* of the forum overall, IMO. *It becomes a detriment once the trickee** refuses to listed to the explanations of the tricker** and others about what the meaning and intent of the reply really was (i.e. the source of his misunderstanding). **Bad terminology - implies there is intent to trick when there is not necessarily such. My apologies for using it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 13:31:44 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 12:10:59 2015. The subject line says “the,” not “a.” Given your explanation, that makes the original subject line completely wrong, because it implies that he believes that the 1965 blackout was the biggest of all. That is completely myopic because it implies that this event from his past is so significant, that no other event could possibly overshadow it in the popular consciousness. Boomer nostalgia is more important than everyone else’s nostalgia. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:44:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 13:05:22 2015. You are correct. I'm so used to seeing and placing the response AFTER the original statement that no matter how many times I reread your posts, I couldn't see (or understand your further explanation) that you did the opposite. That's why I said "if i understand this correctly", as I was having difficulty.That said, I do not think BB's response was reasonable, as it shows that he: 1) misunderstood R36's post 2) totally missed the lesson R36 was trying to teach him 3) made unreasonable assumptions about R36 and his post, as Spider Pig has explained |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:46:56 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 13:31:44 2015. Good post. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 13:49:42 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 13:31:44 2015. You are being too picky. You are technically correct - the subject line is definitely in error. But I don't see any intent by BB to belittle the scope of the 2003 blackout. It was just slightly sloppy writing, which we all do here from time to time.I am the same age. I consider the 1965 blackout to be of neither greater or lesser historical importance than the 2003 blackout. I would consider the 1977 one of greater importance actually, even though it had lessser scope, because it had greater social impact. I also think R36's attempt at addressing the defect in BB's title (if that in fact was his point) was subtle enough to be easily misunderstood. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:54:07 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 13:49:42 2015. It was just slightly sloppy writing, which we all do here from time to time.The point was, and is, that this type of sloppiness is dangerous, and BB does it often. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 16 13:55:43 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:54:07 2015. Let the record note that I shrug. :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 14:15:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:44:47 2015. You are 100% wrong.1. I did not misunderstand R36's post. 2. I did not miss any lesson R36 was trying to teach. 3. I did not make any unreasonable assumptions. R36 made the error and Spider Pig went out of his way trying to defend him by giving him the "benefit of the doubt". But as I clearly explained there was zero doubt so it is not possible to give someone the benefit of the doubt in this case. So therefore you are 100% wrong in making this post because what you stated is pure fiction. So be a man and admit you are wrong which you will never do. You just try to cast doubt on my credibility by stating lies which you just did in your post. And you have the nerve to say I am not credible. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 14:20:59 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 14 21:09:26 2015. And I am sure a scholar like yourself has read every page of the Warren Commission a and the thousands of pages refuting it. So then you must be he only one who knows for sure exactly what happened because the rest of the world still has questions. So congratulations to you.I guess that no one will ever publish another word about the JFK assassination since the truth is now so widely known. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 14:23:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 14:15:23 2015. That is your speculation. Until R36 explains the rationale of his post, it is just speculation on both sides.Anyway, there is in fact doubt because intonation is not conveyed in these posts, so there are nuances that can be missed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 14:26:21 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 14:20:59 2015. “The rest of the world” does not have questions. There are people who have questions, but these people are not credible. Almost have the people in the United States are creationists, but they are all 100% wrong. Facts don’t become factual just because they are popular.And in much the same way, people will still publish fiction about the Kennedy assassination in much the same way the Discovery Institute still exists and still pretends that creationism is real. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 17:29:09 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 14:26:21 2015. And where do you get your "fact" from that have (sic) the people in the United States do not believe in evolution?You can't publish fiction as fact just like you can't just make up your own numbers. I would say that the vast majority of people in the United States does believe in evolution and creationists are small in number by comparison. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 17:34:48 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 14:23:04 2015. And he probably will not explain the rationality of his post because he is probably ashamed that he was incorrect.I did not speculate at all in my previous comment and neither did R36. He was quite clear in his remark stating emphatically that there was no northeast blackout in the month of November, but in August instead. There are no nuances in that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 19:14:17 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 17:29:09 2015. Almost Half the people. Sorry.Here's one example. So you're wrong again. What else is new? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 19:16:02 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 17:34:48 2015. He has said no such thing! Now you're just making shit up. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:24:58 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 19:16:02 2015. I said "Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout.He stated: "Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Nov 14 16:45:59 2015, in response to Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 9 13:28:14 2015. No, it's only been twelve years… and it happened in August." So what am I making up? He is directly disputing what I stated. Yes, I should have said since the first big northeast blackout to be perfectly correct. But nevertheless since tere was a big northeast blackout fifty years to the day I made that post, I was correct. So again I ask you what shit am I making up? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:50:13 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 19:14:17 2015. I question how random that survey actually was. Among the total population surveyed, 46% believed in creationism. But among those with only a high school education or less, that number only increases to 52%.From that small difference I conclude that only a very small portion of the sample had any college education. Is that true of the general population over 18? If it is true that there is such a high correlation between levels of education and the belief of creationism which is very possible, I would think a fairer survey would be limited to those over 21 or 25 because some portion of the surveyed population are too young to have received a college education, not to mention post graduate education. I wouldn't be surprised if the age cutoff were a little higher, the results would be radically different. I also wish there were some raw numbers so I could calculate what percentage of respondents were regular churchgoers who may have been over represented. It also always pays to know who sponsored any survey you are analyzing. That information is not provided. I woudn't jump to the conclusion that I was wrong again based on a single survey of 1,000 supposedly random people just because it comes from a respected organization. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:57:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:10:49 2015. What in the world are you talking about?What assumptions did I make in my original post? I just stated some facts but forgot to say it was the first big Northeast Blackout. I made no assumptions. Saying. No, it was 12 years ago (not 50) and August not November is no subtle or light-hearted swipe. It is directly contrary to what I stated and an accusation that my statement was incorrect. I don't know what planet you are on or what language you are reading to conclude anything different. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 20:00:16 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:54:07 2015. You are making a mountain out of a molehill as usual and you are doing it because I was the one who made the post. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 20:00:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 16 13:54:07 2015. You are making a mountain out of a molehill as usual and you are doing it because I was the one who made the post. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 20:10:57 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 13:31:44 2015. Yes it should have said "a" not "the" but that does not make the subject incorrect at all because there was a big northeast blackout on that date. A second one in 2003 does not change what occurred previously. If I had said, the biggest northeast blackout, then I would have incorrect since a bigger one occurred later in time.Your interpretation that no other event could possibly overshadow it is just your interpretation. It wasn't at all what I had in mind. It has nothing to do with boomer nostalgia. Each blackout was important for its own reasons. The 1965 one was important because it was unprecedented at the time and fifty years is a milestone. I doubt anyone mentioning the 49th anniversary. The 1977 blackout was important because it took some neighborhoods three years to fully recover from one day of looting. The 2003 blackout was important because of the numbers of people it affected. You are reading far too much into what I wrote. And the subject line is not completely wrong as you stated. It would have been completely wrong only if I posted it on the wrong day. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 16 20:20:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 20:00:16 2015. I don't see me making any mountain. I wasn't even the one who brought this up. What in the world are you talking about? I'm simply participating in the subthread. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:51:40 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:50:13 2015. There are numerous other surveys you can find on Google all of which give numbers between 40 and 50 percent.But what is the point of the rest of your post? Are you trying to prove that popular opinions tend to be correct? 1000 people can be a representative sample. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:52:31 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 19:57:47 2015. It is a subtle or light-hearted swipe if you have a modicum of a sense of humor, even if you don't find it funny. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:55:41 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 20:10:57 2015. It had everything to do with "boomer nostalgia." If not, you'd never have dismissive ly said "Yes, there were blackouts before you were born." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 23:12:17 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:55:41 2015. No. Chances are it did occur before he was born. Didn't you write the dissertation before about median age? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 23:35:16 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:51:40 2015. It depends how you define "popular". if you mean majority, I would say probably yes. In this case 46 percent is high but not a majority.The point of my post is that I am not convinced as to the accuracy of the survey because I do not think 18 was the proper cut off age and is rather arbitrary, since there is such a high correlation between education and opinion in this case. Also since we do not know who is sponsoring the study, we do not know if the results are fair or have been manipulated. For example, if the study was paid for by churches, they would have had a vested interest in showing a high belief in creationism. They could have have purposely chosen 18 as the cutoff age after doing prior studies with a higher cutoff age that showed a lower belief in creationism. Doesn't it strike you a bit odd that the difference in the belief of creationism between the general population and those going to church often is so small? Only I think 8%. The implication is that most people tend to go to church when I do not believe that is at all the case. Most people I know are non-religious. I have good reason to be skeptical of this survey just as I would not trust a survey regarding drugs without knowing which drug company sponsored it, if it was sponsored by a drug company. If a company making aspirin sponsors a study, don't you think they would conclude that aspirin is the most effective pain reliever? Do you really think there is a chance in hell that they would conclude another company's product were better, even if it were a Gallup survey? Do you think if Atheists sponsored a survey, the conclusion would be that a high percentage of people believe in creationism? Not on your life. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 23:37:19 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 20:52:31 2015. A swipe at what? Sorry I don't follow your line of thinking at all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 23:41:07 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 23:35:16 2015. You are totally clueless. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 16 23:41:25 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 16 23:37:19 2015. At you. |
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