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Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 17:33:52 2015

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The goal is to get the rail line built by 2021.




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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:00:23 2015, in response to Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 17:33:52 2015.

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"The high-speed rail line would take commuters from Dallas to Houston and vice versa in under 90 minutes through mainly rural areas"

And how many hours does it take to get to the stations from either one of these cities?

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 18:51:39 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:00:23 2015.

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Well, since the stations will be in the downtown areas, not very long.

Compare this to the required time it takes to get to just about any airport in the country to catch a flight. For example, it takes me 4-5 hours for me to get to Newark from where I live, in Putnam County, NY. This includes factoring in the required 1.5>2 hours check-in and security procedures, something that boarding a train doesn't require. So your argument doesn't hold water.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 19:04:04 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 18:51:39 2015.

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Everyone in Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston lives downtown?

Gee, I guess they're not really the biggest cities in the USA after all. Must be such a quick trip to get around in Houston and Dallas.

Yea, I don't hold water. What part are you from?
That's right, Downtown, forgive me.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 19:25:39 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 18:00:23 2015.

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Don't forget that Dallas has extensive light rail lines which all go to Union Station,one stop away from the convention center. From Ft. Worth a passenger can take TRE to Dallas Union Station in one hour. From a typical north Dallas suburb it's a 30 - 45 minute ride on DART. From further north a passenger could ride to the northernmost DART stop or ride the Denton A Train to Carrollton and transfer to DART.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 20:07:12 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 28 19:04:04 2015.

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Putnam County is not downtown New York City. Or so you would have discovered had you bothered to check your geography.

Also, if you study your geography, you'll observe that DFW is some 20 miles west of downtown Dallas. Union Station is right in downtown Dallas. Now suppose, then, just for the sake of argument, that a resident of Plano (about 20 miles north of Dallas) had the choice of flying from Dallas to Houston, or taking the train from Dallas to Houston. He/she would have a 27-mile, up to an hour-long fight on the freeways to get to DFW, find parking, wait in the check-in line, wait in the security line, and then wait about 45 min/1 hr before boarding. And hope there's not a 45min wait on the tarmac for clearance to take off. Now, suppose he/she choose to get to the downtown Dallas station. This would entail about a 47-mionut ride on the Dallas DART LRT Red Line, where the passenger could relax, read, enjoy the scenery and the environment through which the light rail train passes. He/she would simply arrive at Union Station, no 1.5-hour check-in procedure, minimal wait time before boarding. The train would then take just a few minutes before reaching its own right-of-way with no interference from freight trains. If I were that person, I'd choose the train. Wouldn't you?

Now if you happened to live closer to DFW, say, in Las Colinas, you would still save time by taking the train from downtown to Houston, for the reasons I spelled out in the previous paragraph. DART's Orange Line, BTW, gives you a choice of going to downtown Dallas, or to DFW.

BTW, you have never apologized for accusing Maya Angelou of being anti-Semitic. (This came up on a post I originated about two years ago on SubChat, after she died, where she was honored by, of all systems, the Dallas DART transit agency, for her work as a San Francisco Market Street Railway conductor, one of the first blacks on any transit system anywhere.) When I challenged you to provide proof, there was dead bandwidth on your part.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Aug 28 20:59:31 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 20:07:12 2015.

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Peter, waste not thy time. This auto/airline fan besmirches the name he uses as a "handle."
On a cheerier note, I too look forward to rail service to Perris.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 21:15:47 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 19:25:39 2015.

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Similar to my post, Dave, but much more concise. Thanks!

DART has a fantastic system. And best of all, it's the only system in the United States to offer a completely integrated regional fare structure, between light rail, busses and commuter rail.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 21:35:46 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 20:07:12 2015.

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BTW, you have never apologized for accusing Maya Angelou of being anti-Semitic

Why did she speak at the Million Man March, for starters?

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Dave on Fri Aug 28 22:01:04 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 21:15:47 2015.

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Not only that, a two-zone (Regional) TRE ticket gets you anywhere on the TRE; DART light rail or bus; and Ft. Worth (T) buses as well.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 08:34:16 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 28 21:35:46 2015.

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Although the organizer of the Million Man March, Louis Farrakhan, may have stirred up some anti-Jew sentiments, it was primarily about black men in general. Look at all the people who did speak--people who didn't have a bone of resentment for Jews in their body. In Maya Angelou's case, you're pandering to guilt by association. That's bullshit.

Now, back to Dallas, and the subject at hand.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Aug 29 10:06:38 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 08:34:16 2015.

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WOW, I want to use this pitiful logic everywhere for now on. Thanks for an addition to my subchat rules list!

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 29 13:44:13 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Aug 28 20:59:31 2015.

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if it goes there on the weekends
metrolink service

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 29 14:00:56 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 08:34:16 2015.

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Maya Angelou is dead and cant answer for anything now

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 17:03:04 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Aug 29 14:00:56 2015.

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Yes. Let her rest in peace.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:55:17 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Fri Aug 28 21:15:47 2015.

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How does DART rate as far as late night service is concerned? Is there any owl service or does it shut down after midnight like many transit systems do?

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 16:39:03 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:55:17 2015.

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Unfortunately, there is no Owl service. Or, at least, not on the rail lines. Interestingly, The McKinney Avenue M-LIne trolleys have extended service on Fridays and Saturdays, something the DART rail lines do not.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 16:46:38 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by randyo on Sun Aug 30 14:55:17 2015.

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Unfortunately, there is no Owl service. Or, at least, not on the rail lines. Interestingly, The McKinney Avenue M-LIne trolleys have extended service on Fridays and Saturdays, something the DART rail lines do not.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 22:37:20 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 08:34:16 2015.

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If you believe that, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale cheap. And given the sentiments in her poem, it is not mere "guilt by association". It's sad to see so many believe the big lie.

Since you changed the subject, I see no reason to get away from it because you wish to flee what you started.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by milantram on Sun Aug 30 23:31:07 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 22:37:20 2015.

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There is no anti-Semitic sentiment in her poem. None whatsoever. Re-read the third to the last stanza. Why are you and Orange Blossom so hung up on this so-called "hidden meaning" and intent on making something out of it when there is nothing to be made of it? That's typical Republican racist dogma. Like I said, you've fallen into the trap of "guilt by association," because she happened to be on the same stage as Louis Farrakhan. So was Jesse Jackson. So were many members of the NAACP and other groups. (And believe me, I am no fan, and never will be, a fan of Louis Farrakhan.)

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 03:36:28 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by milantram on Sat Aug 29 17:03:04 2015.

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betty shabazz also spoke at the million man march

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 03:50:17 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 03:36:28 2015.

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I would have too if I'd been invited. :)

Noble cause ... take back our kids. Help them grow up to be MEN. That's a good start no matter who's sponsoring it, whether it be the Panthers, NOI, or anyone else who actually gives a shit about the community and wants to stop the madness.

All these "conservatives" could have followed through by financing those bootstraps. After all, you need boots to begin with in order to pull them up. :)

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 03:54:54 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 03:50:17 2015.

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SelkirkTMO i agree but however a lot was missed especially by the keynote speaker in my opinion
whom i disagree with for other reasons .................
another speaker i knew personally was denied to speak at the so called march
long story there and i would have to explain that in another forum or in person

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 04:06:23 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 03:54:54 2015.

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Well ... it was the organizer's thing. Having grown up poor myself, I know what it's like to want to get on the path and not having the cash to even start. That's why I'm proud of what I've accomplished given where I started out. But it was hard. Anybody who's willing to help others get there under similar circumstances has my encouragement despite the politics of those who step up in the first place.

Neither the Panthers or NOI folks accepted me at first until I managed to prove that I was "for reals" ... given my experience, I'm willing to give latitude on the simple basis of trying at all.

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 04:14:28 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 04:06:23 2015.

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I think this part of this thread needs to move over to OT, it'll cheese off the right. :)

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 11:22:15 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 04:14:28 2015.

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ok
thanks

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Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 17:55:26 2015, in response to Re: Feds approve corridor for Dallas to Houston high-speed rail, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 04:06:23 2015.

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i was not that well off either
lol

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