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Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Tue Dec 16 12:29:48 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. What a waste. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Dec 16 14:04:57 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. Disappointing news, to say the least. The City and State need to be pushing harder to expand mass transit in the outer boroughs. Incorporating the old Rockaway Beach branch into the subway system is one of the best ways to do that. QueensWay will do little, if anything, to improve mass transit in Queens. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Dec 16 14:43:55 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 17:11:36 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Dec 16 14:04:57 2014. Not only will it do little....it will actually do nothing. Its crazu |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Dec 16 17:12:54 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. This park will somehow add economic development? I guess if it turns into the Highline where they re-zone the area for upscale development and price out all the people who are pushing for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 17:29:33 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 17:11:36 2014. It's worse than the "no build" alternative. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Dec 16 18:23:43 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 17:11:36 2014. I fully agree. It will do nothing. I was just trying to be nice, lol.But seriously, I hope this is not the end and that there's still a fighting chance the MTA and city/state pols will take a serious look at putting subway service on the branch. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Dec 16 18:25:57 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Dec 16 17:12:54 2014. It's not the wealthy folks in Forest Hills Gardens who are pushing for QueensWay? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 18:40:16 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 16 17:29:33 2014. It really is. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 16 22:23:57 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Tue Dec 16 14:04:57 2014. The City and State need to be pushing harder to expand mass transit in the outer boroughs. Incorporating the old Rockaway Beach branch into the subway system is one of the best ways to do that.How will that be accomplished? Which areas that are not now served by subway service would be served by a reincarnation of the RBB? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 01:33:08 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Dec 16 22:23:57 2014. It's not a matter of servicing areas not currently served, it's about providing the area with a more robust service. Clearly there's a need for additional service given that folks are still crowding buses and cars up and down Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 17 07:26:07 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. That sux. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 17 07:26:46 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Dec 16 18:40:16 2014. I agree. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 08:44:44 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 01:33:08 2014. It's not a matter of servicing areas not currently served, it's about providing the area with a more robust service.There are plenty of areas that are not currently served. I'd suggest that the few dollars available be spent in extending service and not squandered on making service more robust. I would place the following projects in the latter category: South Ferry; Fulton St Transit Hub; Second Ave Subway and CBTC. None of these projects has extended the system nor increased its capacity. given that folks are still crowding buses and cars up and down Woodhaven Blvd There's something odd about the bus ridership statistics presented for implementing BRT. The 4 bus lines Q11, Q21, Q52 and Q53 have a combined daily ridership of 30K. However, the Q53 accounts for more than half that ridership. This cannot be entirely be accounted for by greater frequency along Woodhaven. The Q53 is the only bus that extends beyond Woodhaven/Queens Blv to Jackson Heights and Woodside. It acts as a local bus between Woodhaven/Queens Blv and Woodside. One of NYCDOT's graphics indicates that this is where those extra passengers originate. The area between Woodhaven/Blv and Woodside also has the highest population density along the routes. Neither journey to work nor household travel surveys show any significant demand for travel from south of Forest Park to either Woodhaven/Queens Blv or beyond. |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Wed Dec 17 10:33:32 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. I know it's unreasonable, but the thing that enrages me more than anything about this project (and there's a lot about which to be angry here) is the gratuitous use of CamelCase.Queensway. Queens Way. Either of those would be better, but, no, we have to go with QueensWay. Can you imagine what it would be like if the 59th St. Bridge had been named the QueensBoro Bridge or something equally ridiculous? Or if I lived next to CentralPark? These aren't names meant to last, and if we're going to be building public accommodations meant to be here for the long term (which, unfortunately, the QW backers seem to want), the names have to be something that won't seem embarrassingly dated in 20 years. (See also: eliminating the letter 'e' in Internet startups -- Flickr, Grindr, Tumblr, &c.) Idiotic. |
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Posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Dec 17 12:06:45 2014, in response to QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Dec 16 01:18:00 2014. Brilliant. You might as well do this: |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Dec 17 13:20:54 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 08:44:44 2014. SAS Phase 1 will better manage existing capacity, making it more useful for the customer. SAS Phases 1-4 in total will increase capacity. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 17 14:06:40 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Dec 17 13:20:54 2014. And even in phase 1, if you live at 1st Ave and 72nd (just to pick one example), you would think that service has been extended. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:18:05 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Dec 17 13:20:54 2014. SAS Phase 1 will better manage existing capacityThere are a lot more effective ways to better manage existing capacity than building a line that duplicates existing services. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Dec 17 14:19:40 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:18:05 2014. It doesn't duplicate existing service. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:28:07 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 17 14:06:40 2014. even in phase 1, if you live at 1st Ave and 72nd (just to pick one example), you would think that service has been extended.It's not practical to have a subway entrance at everyone's front door. The criterion I use is within 1/2 mile of a subway stop. I consider service duplication, if a new station is within 1/2 mile of an existing one. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:34:08 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Dec 17 14:19:40 2014. All of the UES between 5th and York Aves lies within 1/2 mile of an existing Lexington Ave Station. All of the UES lies within 5/8 mile of an existing Lexington Ave Station. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 17 15:32:49 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:34:08 2014. So? What good does that do if the Lex trains are full? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:07:40 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:34:08 2014. Holy shit man, we live in NYC, not fucking Kansas. Go ride the Lex and tell me we don't need another subway. Hell, let's get ride of the 7th Av line. We've got trains on 6th, Broadway, and 8th, so what the hell do we need a 7th Av train for? Right? Schmuck |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 17 16:09:08 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:34:08 2014. What does that have to do with Woodhaven blvd? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:15:24 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 08:44:44 2014. I agree, we have huge swaths of this city that need subway service. Extend the 7 line along the Whitestone and CIP to Bay Terrace. Extend Hillside Av to Lake Success. Extend from New Lotts to Gateway, L train to Starrett City, build the Utica Av subway, whatever. But all that requires new ROW and furthermore, new trunk capacity in Manhattan. This is a comparatively easy project. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 17 16:16:24 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 17 15:32:49 2014. His argument is that Lex service can be increased. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 17 16:17:02 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 17 16:09:08 2014. Nothing, but the thread drift was organic. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 17 16:24:33 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 14:34:08 2014. East End between 81st and 82nd is about 0.92 mi from an existing subway station. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Dec 17 16:26:32 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by mcorivervsaf on Wed Dec 17 12:06:45 2014. lol |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 16:43:19 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:15:24 2014. Yep, readily available ROW, meeting existing transit at each end. Other cities are constantly repurposing existing or abandoned ROW for transit. We've done this twice, about 60 years ago. Why not now? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 16:44:21 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 17 16:16:24 2014. Not enough. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 16:44:58 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Dec 17 16:09:08 2014. What does that have to do with Woodhaven blvd?If you scroll back a few threads... My objection to the RBB is that it will duplicate service that already exists. The City has squandered too much money on projects that do not extend service. Examples cited were South Ferry, Fulton St Hub, CBTC and the SAS. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:50:37 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 16:44:58 2014. South Ferry was a waste, 100% agreed. I never was okay with that project. But existing capacity is no longer meeting demand throughout the system |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 16:59:11 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:15:24 2014. Extend the 7 line along the Whitestone and CIP to Bay Terrace.That's a bad route choice. You want lines to draw customers from two directions. The CIP route can only attract denizens from Little Neck Bay. But all that requires new ROW There are some out of the box solutions that don't. furthermore, new trunk capacity in Manhattan. Most expansions will initially remove the bus from a bus-subway commute. This is worthwhile because buses are more expensive to operate and since the Metrocard don't increase revenue. With time the expansion areas will get increased population with increased subway demand. The existing trunk lines are operating significantly below their capacity. Moreover, they are operating significantly below the peak service levels from half a century ago. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:10:59 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 16:44:21 2014. The peak am rates are 27 and 22 tph for the express and local, according to the 2013 Hub Bound Report data. They once ran 32 and 30 tph respectively according to the TA (back when they did). That's wiggle room for 13 more tph on the Lex trunk. They are planning only 10 tph for the two-track SAS. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:17:15 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:50:37 2014. South Ferry was a waste, 100% agreed.You should be in 200% agreement. They are doing it twice :=) But existing capacity is no longer meeting demand throughout the system You need to examine when the passengers are using the subway. It's been during the non-rush hours. The Hub Bound Report supports this. They have rush hour counts going back to the 1970's and hourly counts back to the 1980's. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 17:28:40 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 16:59:11 2014. 7 line via the highways is the easiest way to expand, and LIRR can handle the Northern Blvd corridor if they did a little reform (20 min headways, full time city ticket). And what out of the box solutions are you talking? |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 17:31:39 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:17:15 2014. Go ride a damn train man, you clearly have zero concept of the reality that exists below ground |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 17 17:46:20 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:17:15 2014. Are you nuts? Non-Rush hour ridership is growing but in no way are the trains more crowded during non-rush hours.If what you are saying is that more ride the subway outside of 7 to 9 AM and 5 to 7 PM, that may be true, but it would be an absolute meaningless statistic to compare ridership in 20 hours to ridership in 4 hours of the day. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 18:34:06 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 17:28:40 2014. 7 line via the highways is the easiest way to expand,I would prefer physical extensions to follow the existing street grid. That way commercial hubs and strips will follow the extension. These will increase the tax base and help pay for the extensions. Limited access highways have already disrupted the street grid. There isn't any room to build the commercial hubs and strips. Moreover, the highways keep street traffic away. And what out of the box solutions are you talking? Here's one I proposed a decade ago. One constraint was to spend as little money as possible and have a plan that could be implemented within a year. Run a shuttle on the Port Washington Branch between Bayside and Willets Point every 10 minutes. You need reversing facilities that don't interfere with regular through PW service. There are extra platforms and trackways at Willets Point - relics from the 1964 World's Fair. There's a yard east of Bayside for relaying and storing trains. This would be an LIRR operation. However, POP would be used for payment similar to SBS. City bound a passenger arrives at an LIRR station, inserts Metrocard into machine and receives a receipt. If passenger arrived by bus, no additional fare is deducted. Passenger gives receipt to conductor on train. At Willets Point, passenger exits train and uses existing walkway to IRT Willets Point Station. Passenger inserts Metrocard into turnstile. No additional fare is deducted. Additional trains are turned at Willets Point, so passenger enters empty #7 train to Times Sq. NE Queens bus routes are changed to go to terminate at LIRR stations and not Main St. This will eliminate chronic traffic congestion in Downtown Flushing. Mileage reduction will substantially reduce bus operating costs. Minimum ROW costs to implement. No additional property required. Minimum EIS impact because no changes to existing functions. Very little construction required. Refurbish abandoned Willets Point Platforms, improve walkway to IRT station, electrify yard and yard leads east of Bayside. All this out of doors on existing LIRR property. I proposed this before M7's were being delivered. I would have used some M1's as rolling stock to keep costs down. There are other possibilities for using Metrocard and existing railroads to extend subway service. The key is that any extended service be distinct from existing commuter operations. That way the wealthier suburbanites won't have to mix with the City's unwashed masses. This separation would also blunt criticism that City residents are getting a free ride. One special situation that is coming up is the possibility to recpature the LIRR between Jamaica and Flatbush Ave. The LIRR plans to sever through service, when East Side Access comes on board. They are building a separate platform at Jamaica. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Dec 17 18:39:05 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 16:07:40 2014. +1, exactly what I was going to say. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 19:17:27 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 18:34:06 2014. "Run a shuttle on the Port Washington Branch between Bayside and Willets Point every 10 minutes. " etc.I love this idea and your implementation plans. A similar route could be run in the Bronx on the Harlem Line, restoring the gap left when the 3rd Ave. el was taken down. Run shuttles from Wakefield to the Hub near a subway station. I thought of this a while ago but was stymied by how to do fare control - your idea of using SBS-type receipts solves that. One more idea -- while these routes would be run by LIRR and MNRR, give them subway-style letter or number designations -- so people would think of them as subway lines. That would help gain public acceptance. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 17 19:51:14 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:10:59 2014. However a 600 ft BMT/IND train can hold more people that a 510 ft train of IRT cars. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 19:53:36 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 19:17:27 2014. Run shuttles from Wakefield to the Hub near a subway station.You're going to have problems finding gaps to run the shuttles. Mott Haven has all the traffic to/from Grand Central. You've got all the Harlem and New Haven traffic south of Woodlawn. I was fortunate enough to select track that was used by a single branch line. I could find a gap for 10 minute headways. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Dec 17 19:57:23 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 18:34:06 2014. Garbage. Now you're having these people transfer twice? Fail. Just run service all the way to GCT/NYP. And the LIRR is wrong to sever the FBA. All the expansion they want to do/are doing to increase service, and ultimately they're going to end up with the same west end capacity that they currently have. LIRR needs to retain FBA. Capturing it for subway service is 100% out of the question.I'd rather the 7 train run via Willets Point Av or some other street, but the reality is that construction like that is going to be far too expensive to ever actually get done. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 17 19:58:59 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 19:53:36 2014. It's a 4-track line. You would largely eliminate the existing Harlem locals and run most Westchester/CT trains via the express tracks. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 17 20:05:59 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Dec 17 17:10:59 2014. According to the SAS FEIS IINM TPH on the LEX EXP are limited at GC due to station dwell time. So the MTA says they can't increase service on the express track. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 17 20:06:39 2014, in response to Re: QueensWay gets $444,000 grant form NY State to design the first phase, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 17 16:16:24 2014. Let him show us how exactly. |
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