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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 12:58:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 21 12:36:43 2014. While all the other things are definitely hysteria, the poison ivy is a real problem. I have gotten poison ivy a few times, and it is FAR from fun. And while yes, long pants may help, it is still able to be gotten. The oils of poison ivy DOES stay on your clothes, and you can pass it from touching your pants, shirt, etc which came in contact with it to the rest of your body, as well as when you do your laundry, etc. It DOES remain.The winter months do cut down on the threat, however, the oils in poison ivy are present in the vines in winter too. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 21 13:16:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 21 12:36:43 2014. The Wikipedia authors have heard of them in the northeast.The map doesn't illustrate concentrations. The text says "In the United States, they are found mostly in the southeast, the south, and the Midwest." They're an inevitability in Chicago in the summer, but I've never known anyone who got one in New York or New England. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 21 13:21:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 22:31:16 2014. I don't think it's still tic season, but that could be a problem too depending on the time of year.So check for them afterward. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 21 14:49:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 20 09:48:43 2014. Yeah. I was surprised to see it could get that overgrown in 29 years. Imagine after 52...Nature always fights its way back. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 15:12:07 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 21 14:49:18 2014. Yeah, it's amazing actually. From the time that line was abandoned to the time of those photos, is almost as long as the time from those photos to now.....and nature gets stronger and stronger as time goes on, so it must really be a jungle by now.....the trees have to be at least double the thickness, and so many more of them..... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 21 15:18:57 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 15:12:07 2014. Google and bing satellite views show trees quite a bit taller than adjacent 3-story buildings. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Oct 21 16:14:55 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by tunnelrat on Tue Oct 21 12:39:59 2014. Hah, Congrats!Now you're ready to save Jill St. John in that film "The Lost World!" :) |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Oct 21 18:29:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:29:45 2014. The original plan for a super express track along the LIRR right of way got shotdown a/c too many apartment houses & huge eminant domain issues too close to the tracks, on either side from Woodside to Kew Gardens. Thousands of folks would have to be re-located so up went the white flag on that idea. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Oct 21 10:54:52 2014. Not necessarily, but it'd mean more frequent service and 6th Avenue access. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:50 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:39:50 2014. And for the record, anyone that reads OTChat here knows that all of those are exactly for how you treat me and others for as long as you have been posting on OTchat.Actually, when I first came to OTChat, I was perfectly civil— you started shrieking childish insults until eventually I got tired of your bullshit and threw a few barbs back. If you were to look through the archives, you'll notice that I'm perfectly civil to people who are civil to me— if you don't want to be treated like a dick, you need to stop acting like a dick. You get treated the way you treat others. A lesson you need to take to heart. If you notice, you are absolutely the only one I treat that way, and it's well deserved after your behavior here. What behaviour is that? Links, if you don't mind. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:51 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 21 12:52:57 2014. It's not valid proff. Ignoring the parts that don't make sense out of context (ie, most of them), I don't see any incivility in either of those links. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:54 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:28:18 2014. ... as even the people I argue with the most here are some of my favorite people here.Which people might those be? I have met many of them personally... I've met plenty of SubChatters and we've all managed to get along. Hell, I got along fine with Chicagomotorman in real life. It's like boxing— you don't hit your opponent outside the ring. ...and even those I haven't, we still have plenty of respect for eachother. You have certainly dedicated yourself to the task of losing what respect I had for you. You however, are one of the most malicious and miserable people here. Srsly? I'd love to see you try to justify this assertion. Or alternatively, you could just grow the fuck up. You lost an internet argument and so you've been holding a grudge for the better part of a year? And yes, you act like a dick. Link or it didn't happen. But that's the image you have made here for yourself. Not among anybody who counts. And that is because I have absolutely no respect for you, as you never had any for me. Actually, I had plenty of respect for you at the start. Then you started responding to rational arguments with childish insults. I'm afraid you earned your reputation here. If you'd like to be respected again, try acting like an adult. You are a vile human being, and there's very few I can actually say that about here. I think you have to stop being a white supremacist before you're allowed to say that. Even Edwards and I have a good respect for eachother, no matter how much we may disagree on some topics or throw eachother good natured shit every now and again. You on the other hand..... You're the one who shrieks childish insults. You're the one who throws a temper tantrum whenever you're proven wrong. I only lean down to your level once I'm tired of your bullshit. If you decided to stop acting like a dick, we could go back to being civil at any time. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:22:51 2014. SubChat is like an insane asylum— the inmates squabble amongst each other, but they all hate the doctor with a fiery passion.This is why I invented the term "undorsement." |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:57 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:21:50 2014. No. Everyone knows what you are doing. We always did.You haven't shown the mental aptitude needed to actually understand any of my arguments, so I'll just chalk this up to Dunning-Kruger. But you are a complete asshole, and that's the point. Oh please. We were having a perfectly civil debate until you ran out of even semi-coherent arguments, at which point you threw a tantrum because you weren't mature enough to admit you were wrong. You've spent months fuming about how much of an "asshole" I am for proving you wrong. Would you please just grow up? Everyone here yanks chains. Some more than others. But you actually believe people don't see your act and shit here which is actually pretty hilarious. The only act I have is the whole Nilet Railroad thing, and I'm well aware that people can see it. Presumably you meant to refer to the deluded fantasies you made up to help yourself cope with the fact that I've been right about almost everything while you have been exposed as a white supremacist. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:02:00 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:20:29 2014. 
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:02:02 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 21 10:17:49 2014. No, you made a false accusation.Nope. You just made that up. Stop being a total dick, which I know is hard for you. Oh please. If you learned to stop acting like a total dick, you might not have so many problems with other people. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 20:53:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:54 2014. Wrong. Among many people who count. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 20:54:44 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:51 2014. Then you're hopeless. Because that is damn fine proff of his nasty behavior. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 22:15:22 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 20:53:12 2014. Which people? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 22:15:22 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 20:54:44 2014. Look, I know you have trouble understanding nuance and context, but it's actually important.If the best you can do is a quotemine, then you don't have any proff. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 22:56:31 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 22:15:22 2014. I posted the proff. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 23:05:22 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 21 22:56:31 2014. No, you posted out of context quotemines. I already told you that's not proff. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 22 10:33:40 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:38 2014. I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon.Get some hedge clippers and a Speeder. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 13:44:04 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:02:02 2014. LOL!!! Talk about projection. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 13:44:20 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 20:01:57 2014. LOL!!! Talk about projection. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Oct 22 14:38:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 07:56:07 2014. Believe it or not, I've never been in there. But this does lead me to wonder- I thought the D-types didn't run much, if at all out "East" (disregard the 1977 fan trips), so A/Bs or Multis are more likely to have been at Chambers St.But what equipment ran on the Nassau Loop service prior to the R27/30 and R32? Maybe D-types...? |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 15:53:20 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Oct 22 14:38:03 2014. Everything on the BMT ran through the Nassau loop and if you go back far enough even wooden gate cars and C types ran there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 16:26:17 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 15:53:20 2014. Yeah, the Nassau Loop was really the original BMT mainline in Manhattan. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 17:09:02 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 16:26:17 2014. Actually, it was originally the CENTRE St loop even though an actual Centre St loop which would have involved the partially built ramp to the Bkln Br was never completed. When the connection to the Montague St tunnel was eventually completed the resulting line was called the "Nassau St Loop" even though the actual portion of the line under Nassau St is only a couple of blocks long . |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 18:54:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 20:28:10 2014. lol. my 23-year old gf don't think so. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 19:30:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 13:44:04 2014. Hardly. I haven't made any false accusations, and you can't post a link to the contrary.And while I have no problems getting along with other people, you start acting like a child when anybody doesn't agree with you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 19:53:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 22 13:44:20 2014. LOL!!! Talk about projection.Hardly. As I stated previously— Oh please. We were having a perfectly civil debate until you ran out of even semi-coherent arguments, at which point you threw a tantrum because you weren't mature enough to admit you were wrong. You've spent months fuming about how much of an "asshole" I am for proving you wrong. Would you please just grow up? Go check the archives— in the exchange that starts here and ends here, I was having a debate with AEM7 and Dand. Although we obviously disagreed, the debate was perfectly civil, proving that I have no problem dealing with other people. Then you butted in shrieking that I was an asshole, completely unprovoked— proving that you lack the social skills necessary to hold a civil debate with anyone you disagree with. Even though you chose to act like a dick, I offered a civil reply nonetheless. As the debate continued, you called me a moron, completely unreasonable, and an extremist while I remained completely civil— you acted like a dick right from the start, but it wasn't until my fourth post in that I finally got sick of your asshattery and started insulting you back (not counting ironic echos of your own words). Q.E.D. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Oct 22 20:17:32 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by tunnelrat on Tue Oct 21 12:39:59 2014. I thought you only did tunnels-- that is a viaduct. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 22 20:18:07 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Tue Oct 21 09:05:19 2014. Agreed. No reports of deer spotted anywhere near the Rockaway Line ROW. anytime, at last maybe for the last 100 years. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 22 20:51:52 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 18:54:48 2014. Who cares? You're still old. Really old. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 21:48:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Oct 22 20:17:32 2014. viaduct? vie not a chicken? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 21:55:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 21:48:36 2014. Chickens are too busy on the roads. Besides, considering how overgrown the place is, you'll probably need to duck a lot. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Oct 22 22:06:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 22 20:51:52 2014.  |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 22:42:55 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 21:55:16 2014. Besides, a chicken might get dogged by all that overgrowth, and get lost. Then you'll need the Humane Society to go and fish it out. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 22:43:37 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 22:42:55 2014. Oh deer. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 22:55:30 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 22:43:37 2014. Yep. And if a deer got lost in all that undergrowth, it would take an eagle eye to find it. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 23:01:05 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 22 15:53:20 2014. Whoah!! :)I've known about the gate cars at Chambers Street, but when would the C-types have run there, and what route would they have been assigned to? Also, I thought wooden cars were banned from the subway by 1915. The C-Types weren't built until 1923 right? Thanks. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:09:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 23:01:05 2014. Couldn't be 1915— the ban wasn't passed until after the Malbone wreck three years later. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:12:09 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 22:55:30 2014. I wonder what kind of monkey business would make that necessary. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 23:17:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:12:09 2014. Well some deer are more precocious and slyer than others. They're just plain foxy. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:24:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Wed Oct 22 23:17:16 2014. Yeah, I found one who claimed to be a vixen but was actually a bitch who acted like a queen. What a total ass! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 01:08:41 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:24:12 2014. There are those too, and there's one real dumb one - a real Turkey. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 01:23:29 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 01:08:41 2014. I call bull. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 23 01:29:08 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 01:23:29 2014. No, the bull is busy right now. Try your call again later. Thanks. :) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Oct 23 03:21:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 22 23:09:36 2014. 1915 or'16 sticks in my head as the date - either read it or was told it.funny though, you mentioned 1918, and that for some reason sticks in my head as well. Below, is a URL for Public Service Commission report for 1916 page 192. the reports details the PSC discussions, (during the previous years, 1914/ 1915) with the IRT about replacing Composites in the subway with steel cars. http://books.google.com/books?id=BrsbAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=public+service+commission+wood+subway+cars&source=bl&ots=KxUkfif0Pw&sig=_KQWdNdrgGfq14CrWq4VzXYFXPk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bpNIVOe0Gs-PNuHJgIAJ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=public%20service%20commission%20wood%20subway%20cars&f=false To quote from this text: On January 12, 1915 the Commission issued an order "A" directing the Interborough Rapid Transit Company to retire from operation on its subway lines known as the Manhagttan-Bronx rapid transit railroad and the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad, the cars of wooden construction known as copper-sheathed Composite cars ...on the subway lines and replace the cars with cars of all steel construction...beginning such retirement and replacement by May 1, 1915 and completing the same by December 1915; thereafter not to put into service on its subway lines any of the cars of wooden construction so replaced and not to operate any casr on the subway lines for ... passengers except cars of steel construction...after the ... replacement of any of the wooden cars... not to put any of such ... cars into service on its subway lines... [elided text refers to: extending the deadline for IRT's replacement of Composites to April 1, 1916] ... Under date of March 23, 1916 the company wrote to the commission ... that all composite passenger bodies had been removed from subway service ... the Commission on April 6, 1916 ordered the aforementioned communications be filed. so that's where the 1915 date comes from. I realize the above might only refer to the IRT's rolling stock, and not an outright ban of operating wooden cars anywhere in the subway. Interesting too that they refer to the IRT Brooklyn Lines (contract 3) as the Brooklyn-Manhattan rapid transit railroad. This from nycsubway.org Culver Line page: (As a result of the Malbone Street BRT disaster of November 1st, 1918, wooden cars were not permitted to run in the subway). so, research was done for that article the gives the 1918 date. I'm wondering though, would you be to provide/ find some kind of primary source for the 1918 date. It would be much appreciated. If you can't, and got the info. from a secondary source I understand. However, even with the 1918 ban I have a question about the C-types. Previous post said they operated [in subway] through the Nassau Loop, but they were not built until 1923-1925. That's five years after the 1918 date. long post. thanks for reading. - PS - Larry Redbird could you help out here with a source for the 1918 ban? if so, thanks. |
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