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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Sep 7 12:12:51 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 08:51:46 2014. Ah:I thought it was closed off in the '70s when One Police Plaza was first built. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Sep 7 12:14:45 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 05:19:11 2014. There's that little thing to the west called Madison Square Garden. That would be at risk if the Taxiway at Penn Station were reopened. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 12:15:55 2014, in response to Park Row, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Sep 7 12:12:51 2014. It was but they built a tunnel to keep Park Row continuous. This was closed after 9/11 because the NYPD had a superiority complex. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 12:16:48 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Sep 7 12:14:45 2014. No, it wouldn't. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 12:34:07 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 12:11:53 2014. I see your point.You can still get a lot of explosives into a low clearance vehicle, though. Also, enclosed places allow the explosives to do more damage. That's why trucks aren't permitted on the lower level of the GWB. After 1994 and before 9/11, the WTC delivery entrance had a very effective device that prevented trucks from entering unless a human allowed them in. I can't quickly find something like that in Google; here's the closest I could get. Movable barricade. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 7 13:20:21 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 7 11:30:52 2014. In terms of Amtrak's stupid boarding procedures, I agree. And the artificial, stationary, crowding they create would make a Boston-style backpack bomb all the more entertaining to the terrorist. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 7 13:46:52 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 12:34:07 2014. Yeah, something like that to control vehicle length could work, coupled with a simple bar to restrict height, though drivers and passengers might think it simply wasn't worth the trouble.But there are other buildings in New York that people can drive under, including several built over the FDR drive, and the four apartment buildings built over I-95 approaching the GWB. Plus the already-mentioned Helmsley building. All on major roadways or (as at NYP) over a rail line. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 13:54:15 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 7 13:46:52 2014. The FDR was also already mentioned. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sun Sep 7 17:26:17 2014, in response to Re: Park Row, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 12:15:55 2014. Spider-Pig said "It was but they built a tunnel to keep Park Row continuous. This was closed after 9/11 because the NYPD had a superiority complex. "No...it was and still is security issue |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 17:30:01 2014, in response to Re: Park Row, posted by snarf368 on Sun Sep 7 17:26:17 2014. It was never a security issue. Maybe for the benefit of the people of this city, they should move the police headquarters to North Brother Island. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 7 17:30:10 2014, in response to Re: Park Row, posted by snarf368 on Sun Sep 7 17:26:17 2014. OK, but no one is saying what the issue is. Park Row just passes under a plaza, not under Police HQ itself. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Sep 7 18:05:10 2014, in response to Re: Park Row, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 17:30:01 2014. I could be wrong but don't the FDR drive run under the UN also? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 18:17:56 2014, in response to Re: Park Row, posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Sep 7 18:05:10 2014. Yes |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Sep 7 18:24:58 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 7 13:46:52 2014. And they're still building over the FDR. Rockefeller University will build another extension of its campus there. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Sep 7 19:49:46 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by italianstallion on Sat Sep 6 21:22:53 2014. Park Row is fairly close to Police Headquarters, runs next to a few police related buildings, and under Police Plaza. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Sep 7 21:37:31 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 7 12:16:48 2014. If you feel so strongly about this, how about writing a letter to whoever has jurisdiction here? I'm not actually sure who that would be, since Amtrak, NJ Transit, and LIRR all share the lower levels, and probably some real estate management firm is involved too. When you write the letter, however, please be sure to provide some sort of justification for your position unless you want it to find its way to the circular file very quickly. Several people here have provided some rational reasons why the taxiway should be open. You might also explain how many people each day are inconvenienced by the closure and how low the actual risk is and that someone who wants to do harm can probably do so anyway.Just be careful, though-- they just might decide to close the whole area even to pedestrians once they realize that it provides an additional entrance and exit to Penn Station New York. In any case, I really don't care-- I would never risk my life with a New York City cab driver unless I were really, really desperate and completely unable to walk. What I would really like to see restored is the mid-block crosswalk and traffic signal on 31 St that used to be located at the south end of the taxiway until some time last year. It made getting to St. John the Baptist Church much easier after I exited Penn Station from the west exit to the taxiway. Now I have to walk all the way to 7 Ave, which adds at least a minute to my walk and increases the chances that I will be late for 7:45 AM daily Mass, especially if my train is a minute or two late. For me, that crosswalk was far more useful than the taxiway ever will be even if it is reopened to traffic. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 7 21:59:30 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Joe V on Sun Sep 7 07:31:30 2014. Yes he did. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 7 22:02:55 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Sep 7 21:37:31 2014. I never have a problem crossing 31st Street midblock at the taxiway when I'm there at 7:55am. Why do you walk all the way to 7th Ave? You don't want to jaywalk? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 7 22:05:18 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Dyre Dan on Sun Sep 7 11:30:52 2014. Pwn3d |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 8 10:53:43 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by 3-9 on Sun Sep 7 19:49:46 2014. But not under 1PP (which should be called Canada Yard) itself. This is no more dangerous than any building facing a street. If anything, the tunnel shields the building from any explosion.If the Police are so afraid of their HQ being a target, they should move it to North Brother Island and stop bothering the rest of us. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 8 10:55:08 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Sep 7 21:37:31 2014. They have not provided any rational reasons. Fear is not rational. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Sep 8 12:12:27 2014, in response to Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:58:10 2014. …should be reopened. |
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Posted by Jrice on Mon Sep 8 13:27:09 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:04:08 2014. Bwahhhaahhhahhhaaaa... |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Sep 8 18:43:30 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 8 10:53:43 2014. IAWTP!chud1. :).... |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 10:09:04 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 7 22:02:55 2014. bump |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 10:09:50 2014, in response to Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:58:10 2014. …should be reopened.Have you been through there lately? A lot is going on. I have pics... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 15 10:21:12 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 15 10:09:50 2014. I have not been through the defunct taxi roadway, no. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Oct 15 23:47:25 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 7 22:02:55 2014. Some people don't like to do that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 16:12:40 2014, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Oct 15 23:47:25 2014. HuH? |
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Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway… |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Jul 26 20:31:03 2015, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Sep 7 21:37:31 2014. What I would really like to see restored is the mid-block crosswalk and traffic signal on 31 St that used to be located at the south end of the taxiway until some time last year. It made getting to St. John the Baptist Church much easier after I exited Penn Station from the west exit to the taxiway. Now I have to walk all the way to 7 Ave, which adds at least a minute to my walk and increases the chances that I will be late for 7:45 AM daily MassI never have a problem crossing 31st Street midblock at the taxiway when I'm there at 7:55am. Why do you walk all the way to 7th Ave? You don't want to jaywalk? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 21:16:30 2015, in response to Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Jul 26 20:31:03 2015. Jaywalking is illegal. The point becomes moot as of August 1 since St. John the Baptist is merging with Holy Cross and the 7:45 AM Mass will be history after that. I'll be taking the subway to 63/Lex for 8 AM Mass at St. Vincent Ferrer and using my free transfer at 59/Lex to get to midtown on the days I need to go to Manhattan. |
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Posted by gbs on Sun Jul 26 22:01:01 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 21:16:30 2015. Be sure to observe the playful "Lex 63" signs on the new platform walls.
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 22:04:11 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by gbs on Sun Jul 26 22:01:01 2015. Since this station never had "historic" type tiles, I like the idea of giving it its own distinctive character of sorts. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Jul 26 23:07:03 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 21:16:30 2015. Wow, you answered me! I've been making references to this thread in reply to other postings by you for almost a year now and you never answered me!! Anyhow:Jaywalking is illegal.I don't think I've ever conversed with anyone who refrained from jaywalking in NYC because it is illegal. What is the reason you don't do it? Do you not do ANYTHING illegal? Are you afraid of getting a jaywalking ticket? The point becomes moot as of August 1 since St. John the Baptist is merging with Holy Cross and the 7:45 AM Mass will be history after that. I'll be taking the subway to 63/Lex for 8 AM Mass at St. Vincent Ferrer and using my free transfer at 59/Lex to get to midtown on the days I need to go to Manhattan.Wow, that's a hell of a detour for a mass. Any chance I can catch you crossing 31st Street to get to the 7:45 AM mass sometime this week? |
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Posted by Allan on Mon Jul 27 19:08:02 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Jul 26 23:07:03 2015. In NYC, NYers consider jaywalking a 'right'. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jul 27 19:16:54 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 21:16:30 2015. I'll be taking the subway to 63/Lex for 8 AM Mass at St. Vincent Ferrer and using my free transfer at 59/Lex to get to midtown on the days I need to go to Manhattan.Hmm. Every time I try to get a free transfer at 59/Lex it won't give me one. Perhaps the system takes advantage of knowing where I've originally entered and decides I don't deserve a free transfer. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jul 27 21:01:35 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 27 19:16:54 2015. Example? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jul 27 22:52:09 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 27 19:16:54 2015. I've done this many times now. I enter at Sutphin Blvd around 7:05 AM or 7:10 AM and take the E to the F. I reenter at 63/Lex or 59/Lex around 8:40 AM-- never a problem, other than finding a downtown 6 with room for one more pot-bellied rider. |
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Posted by gbs on Tue Jul 28 00:53:38 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Jul 26 22:04:11 2015. I wonder how distinctive it will be, not yet having seen the other new stations on the line. It would be nice if each were given its own personality. |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Jul 28 04:16:11 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Allan on Mon Jul 27 19:08:02 2015. IAWTP as a native New Yorker.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 28 07:23:14 2015, in response to Re: Attention Andrew Saucci -- Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Jul 26 23:07:03 2015. Bump. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 2 22:25:13 2017, in response to Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:58:10 2014. Bump |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 2 22:29:55 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 2 22:25:13 2017. Why? |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 2 22:29:57 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 2 22:25:13 2017. Why? |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Dec 3 01:47:21 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 2 22:29:55 2017. Thank you for asking....I'm wondering myself. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 3 05:21:34 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 2 22:29:55 2017. Passenger convenience, especially in the rain. Reduce the horrible congestion on 8th Ave. caused by waiting taxis, often double parked. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Dec 3 08:54:59 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 3 05:21:34 2017. Actually I was asking why he was bumping a years-old thread. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 3 10:47:28 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by SLRT on Sun Dec 3 08:54:59 2017. Obviously because the question/topic is still as relevant today as it was when he first posted it. So instead of making a new thread and having everyone repeat the same things said years ago, he bumped the old thread. Makes perfect sense. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 3 11:33:43 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by SLRT on Sun Dec 3 08:54:59 2017. He explained one reason why, elsewhere. It brings old threads back to being searchable by Google again. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 3 11:57:52 2017, in response to Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway…, posted by SLRT on Sun Dec 3 08:54:59 2017. Because his meds have stopped working. |
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