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WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 10:35:21 2014

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The prototype set is on the property and is expected to ready for revenue service in mid November.

CarTentative.Expected
NumberDeliveryAcceptance
7000-0106 02 201411 10 2014
7002-0305 20 201411 10 2014
7004-0512 10 201411 10 2014
7006-0712 27 201411 10 2014
   
7008-0912 09 201401 13 2015
7010-1112 09 201401 13 2015
7012-1312 24 201401 27 2015
7014-1512 24 201401 27 2015
   
7016-1711 12 201401 27 2015
7018-1911 12 201401 27 2015
7020-2111 24 201401 27 2015
7022-2311 24 201401 27 2015
   
7024-2501 01 201502 03 2015
7026-2701 01 201502 03 2015
7028-2901 08 201502 10 2015
7030-3101 08 201502 10 2015
   
7032-3301 27 201502 26 2015
7034-3501 27 201502 26 2015
7036-3702 05 201503 09 2015
7038-3902 05 201503 09 2015
   
7040-4102 17 201503 18 2015
7042-4302 17 201503 28 2015
7044-4502 25 201503 26 2015
7046-4702 25 201503 26 2015
   
7048-4903 04 201504 02 2015
7050-5103 04 201504 02 2015
7052-5303 12 201504 10 2015
7054-5503 12 201504 10 2015
   
7056-5703 20 201504 20 2015
7058-5903 20 201504 20 2015
7060-6103 26 201506 02 2015
7062-6303 26 201506 02 2015

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Oct 18 12:07:54 2014, in response to WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 10:35:21 2014.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 18 13:08:45 2014, in response to WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 10:35:21 2014.

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Unless WMATA or the builder has invested in a time machine, I don't think these delivery dates are correct:

Car Tentative. Expected
Number Delivery Acceptance

7004-05 12 10 2014 11 10 2014
7006-07 12 27 2014 11 10 2014

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by blue8irt on Sat Oct 18 13:14:22 2014, in response to WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 10:35:21 2014.

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So what company is building them? I haven't heard that the contract was awarded.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by blue8irt on Sat Oct 18 13:19:44 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by blue8irt on Sat Oct 18 13:14:22 2014.

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ooops. Please disregrad my other post on this thread.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and acceptance dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 14:37:59 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 18 13:08:45 2014.

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Unless WMATA or the builder has invested in a time machine, I don't think these delivery dates are correct:

My error, the table should read:

CarTentative.Expected
NumberDeliveryAcceptance
7004-0512 10 201311 10 2014
7006-0712 27 201311 10 2014

Even that discrepancy doesn't seem correct either. Don't know the exact dates, but I do know that 7004 - 4007 arrived on the property sometime before 7000 - 7003.


7004 - 7007 Greenbelt Yard 04 11 2014, The car on track 6 is 7062.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and acceptance dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 23:53:01 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and acceptance dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 14:37:59 2014.

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After checking my records cars 7004-05 and 7006-07 did in fact arrive on the property on 12 10 2013 and 12 27 2013.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 19 09:44:06 2014, in response to WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 18 10:35:21 2014.

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At what point can they start scrapping the 1K's ?

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Oct 19 19:48:05 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 19 09:44:06 2014.

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At what point can they start scrapping the 1K's ?

After roughly 25% of the 300 car option has been put into service.

As it stands now WMATA has committed to procuring 428 cars:

Base order64Dulles Phase I
Option 43001K replacement
Option 164Dulles Phase II

Funding for the remaing 320 has not been committed:

Option 2130Fleet growth to support 75% 8 car trains
Option 31004K replacement
Option 590Fleet growth to support 100% 8 car trains

In my opinion I believe WMATA should procure another 500 cars to allow 150 second headways (30 TPH). At present WMATA is running a mix of 6 and 8 car trains at roughly 180 second headways (20 TPH).

The train control and signaling system on all but the Silver line is designed to support 90 second headways (40 TPH), the train control and signaling system on the Silver line is designed to support 185 second headways (19 TPH).

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 20 05:40:17 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Sun Oct 19 19:48:05 2014.

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Why are they planning to replace the 4Ks?

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Oct 20 10:16:42 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 20 05:40:17 2014.

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Why are they planning to replace the 4Ks?

The suits in the Jackson Graham Building came to the conclusion that it would be cheaper to replace them then rehabilitate as well as upgrade their crashworthness.

The 4k cars are structurally similar to the 1k cars.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Tue Oct 21 01:05:53 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Mon Oct 20 10:16:42 2014.

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Ok. Thanks.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Oct 21 08:40:21 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Tue Oct 21 01:05:53 2014.

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Ok. Thanks.

I would like to see a set of 4k car preserved somewhere as they are the only cars on WMATA's roster that contain 1970s propulsion technological (DC choppers).

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 21 13:25:54 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Tue Oct 21 08:40:21 2014.

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Don't forget about the four "8000 Series" cars, those weren't overhauled either.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Oct 21 14:17:09 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 21 13:25:54 2014.

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Don't forget about the four "8000 Series" cars, those weren't overhauled either.

They in fact were. Somewhere on Ben Schumin's web site is a picture of an AC label on one of the money train cars.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 22 13:12:32 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by Sand Box John on Tue Oct 21 14:17:09 2014.

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He took his site down, but I'll ask. I was pretty sure those cars were in a pre-GOH condition.

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Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars.

Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Oct 22 14:14:39 2014, in response to Re: WMATA: Tentative delivery and dates for the first option of 7k cars., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Oct 22 13:12:32 2014.

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He took his site down, but I'll ask. I was pretty sure those cars were in a pre-GOH condition.

Schuminweb.com is still up and running. He has redesigned his site some time after I saw the article the picture was in. The other picture in the article showed No Passengers silk screened using an irregular font on the back side of the destination sign box window.

John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.

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