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Posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:18:22 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. i think our own Bill from Maspeth operated the first J train (it was an redbird R-30) into the then-new Parsons/Archer Ave. terminal in the evening of 12/11/1988. |
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Posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:27:02 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:18:22 2013. sorry, it was an M/K GOH'ed R42 he operated into Jamaica Center in regular passenger service. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 02:10:05 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. I can't decide what I like least about those stations, especially Parsons/Archer:-- the lighting. The platform's fluorescent tubes are in narrow channels that prevent their light from spreading and illuminating the whole area. At the west end, where the ceiling soars, harsh floodlights cast a garish glow. The whole effect is both dark and stark and horrible. -- the materials. For some of the newer stations in the system, they are in terrible condition. The bottom stairs at the "grand entrance" at Parsons Blvd are different and more worn than the others (unless they've been fixed) and they're not standard size steps. -- the physical design. There's too much walking to the east exit and the escalators appear to be in a utility area, not a decorated space for the public. (When the station opened, there was criticism that the first escalator after the turnstile was to the lower level only, "tricking" customers into riding the J instead of the E.) -- the color scheme. Those mustard tiles under the glow of the mercury lights are vile. -- the smell at the east end from the rats and garbage. There are probably other factors, but I'm repressing (mercifully) and can't think of them. The whole place is depressing and I hate having to use it. |
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Posted by El-Train on Wed Dec 11 02:31:06 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. I'm curious as to why the Archer Ave and 63rd St. extensions went unused for years before opening to the public. I'm sure Jamaica residents would've appreciated the service much sooner after the El was cut back.Was it a budget issue or something else? |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Dec 11 04:55:05 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:27:02 2013. Correct, it was an R42. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 06:47:37 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 02:10:05 2013. Well, the design reflects 1970s thinking, for sure. I remember as a kid (1977-78 or so) going to the Transit Museum (or Exhibit) and they handed out a glossy flyer depicting new stations, and the pencil drawings looked very similar to the Archer Ave line- in fact, thinking on it, they probably WERE those stations. I also remember my mom suggesting to me that there would never be any new stations opened again.But in any event, the square lines, mustard-colored (like McDonald's) tiles reflect the times in which the stations were designed. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 06:50:16 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 06:47:37 2013. By the way, my Mom's skepticism about new stations opening has been passed down- for a long time, I thought the current SAS project would be aborted, as was the 1970s effort. Now, I'm guardedly optimistic. |
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Posted by NorthShore on Wed Dec 11 07:42:05 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 06:47:37 2013. The colors reflect the period- earth tones were in vogue when everything was "environmental" and "back-to-nature".Even the R-44's used "wood" paneling and citrus-colored (lemon, orange & tangerine)seating with neutral beige background. |
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Posted by Hart Bus on Wed Dec 11 12:40:44 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 02:10:05 2013. I remember being on a MOD trip that started in Manhattan, went out on the J line to P/A then returned on the J to Manhattan and then went on IND trackage and returned to the other level of P/A before returning on E trackage and letting myself and some other passengers bail out at 74th/Roosevelt.On the first visit, we were allowed a small break for pictures or to use the men's room. Out of necessity I chose the second option and was shocked to see the poor conditions of the bathroom. It looked like it had ripped out of an old station and transplanted there. I was expecting a much newer bathroom, not the antique that was there. |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Wed Dec 11 13:25:55 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. Construction on the Archer Avenue subway began on August 15, 1972, at Archer Avenue and 151st Street, paving the way for the southeast Queens subway line and the demolition of the Jamaica Avenue Elevated from 129th Street to the 168th Street terminal. The first tunnel between the Jamaica Avenue Elevated and the Archer Avenue subway was holed through in October 1977. The second tunnel connection holing through of the Archer Avenue subway tunnels occurred in December 1977. In October 1979, groundbreaking for a 1,300 ft cut and cover section of the Archer Avenue line occurred. This section also included the Jamaica – Van Wyck station. Construction was supposed to be completed in 1984, but was completed ahead of time in 1983, five years before the subway opened on December 11, 1988.The two Archer Avenue Lines begin at a northern terminal, Jamaica Center – Parsons/Archer (E J Z trains), as a bi-level subway, each level having two tracks. The two lines run compass west along Archer Avenue to another station at Sutphin Boulevard – Archer Avenue – JFK Airport, where connections can be made to the Long Island Rail Road and AirTrain JFK. West of this station, the two levels diverge. The lower level tracks (J Z trains) continue roughly compass northwest, emerging from a portal near 89th Road and 130th Street and paralleling the Main Line of the LIRR before turning west onto the elevated structure of the BMT Jamaica Line. The upper level tracks (E train) turn compass north under the Van Wyck Expressway, with another station at Jamaica Avenue. Just north of Hillside Avenue, they meet the four tracks of the IND Queens Boulevard Line at a flying junction, with connections to both the local and express tracks. In the original service plan, the G and N trains (the N ran on the IND Queens Boulevard Line until 1987, when the R train replaced the N to allow it access to the Jamaica Yard) were to go to Jamaica Center,[2][3] while the E and F would have remained going towards 179th Street. In the original service plan the N train was to run between Jamaica Center and Coney Island during weekdays while G trains were to terminate at 71st Avenue. During weekends the G train was to run between Jamaica Center and Smith–Ninth Streets, while N trains would terminate at 57th Street – Seventh Avenue or 71st Avenue. During late nights there was supposed to be a G train shuttle between Jamaica Center and Van Wyck Boulevard.[4] The signage indicating such service was installed inside the Kew Gardens – Union Turnpike station in the mid-1980s.[citation needed] When the Archer Avenue Line opened in 1988, a simpler service plan was put into effect, which involved the E going to Jamaica Center and the F going to 179 Street, with all local service terminating at 71st Avenue. That plan remains as of 2010. The original plan also called for the E train to continue along the right of way of the Atlantic Branch of the Long Island Rail Road through the Locust Manor and Laurelton stations. The Montauk Branch through St. Albans already provides parallel service to Jamaica. This conversion would have involved modifying existing platforms at Locust Manor and Laurelton to accommodate the IND loading gauge, as well as constructing new stations to serve Southeast Queens. Due to a lack of funding, this plan was never implemented |
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Posted by El-Train on Wed Dec 11 13:26:36 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 02:10:05 2013. Wasn't there a controversy/investigation regarding the quality of the materials used in construction of the extension? I remember it from reading nycsubway.org's 1980's retrospective (possibly from here as well). |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 11 14:19:29 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. Omg..... now I feel old |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:24:40 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 11 14:19:29 2013. 
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Dec 11 16:25:39 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:24:40 2013. I can't ear you. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Dec 11 16:36:16 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:24:40 2013. If you think that's old, I remember the opening of the 11 St connection BMT to QB, A to Lefferts, 148/Lenox, Chrystie and 57/6! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:47:23 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. Wow, has it really been 25 years? I remember that Sunday well. I rode an R30 into the lower level around 8 AM. Man, was it a cold day. I then poked around Parsons Blvd for a bit. A lot of people coming in on the E were lost.  A lot of other non-Archer Ave subway changes would take effect this Sunday and Monday. The opening of the north side of the Manhattan Bridge, the closing of the south side, the restoration of express service on the Brighton line (suspended for 2.5 years), the expansion of Fulton St A express service beyond rush hour, and the expansion of C service/elimination of the K line (old AA).  The media really sold these changes since that previous Halloween as "the biggest improvement to the subway system in decades" and I think it rivaled Christie St opening as the biggest one time change in services ever.  It's ironic that stations opened in my lifetime look to be in worse shape than those opened half a century before I was born. All 3 stations need radical rehabs, if just to get rid of the awful, dated 1970's design. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:54:12 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by seabeachexpress on Wed Dec 11 13:25:55 2013. The signage indicating such service was installed inside the Kew Gardens – Union Turnpike station in the mid-1980s.[citation needed]I saw these signs with my own eyes in 1986. They were installed, but blacked out. However, the raised lettering beneath the black covering made them readable. In one location, on the eastbound local track at Union Turnpike, the covering was removed and the signage was plain to see. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Dec 11 17:23:51 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:47:23 2013. I remember that - they got the strip maps for the midday J and the Z switched somehow. But was this really "the most extensive restructuring of subway service in Transit Authority history"? More extensive than November 1967? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 17:33:28 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Dec 11 17:23:51 2013. That's how it was sold. While Chrystie St was a radical change for the BMT, the 1988 changes were more widely dispersed and probably affected more riders. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 11 18:01:33 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by gbs on Wed Dec 11 02:10:05 2013. The Parsons Station was designed that way due to the planned continuation of the upper level to connect with the LIRR's Atlantic Branch. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 11 18:24:56 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by El-Train on Wed Dec 11 02:31:06 2013. The MTA had no intentions of opening the line. |
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Posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 18:31:36 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by seabeachexpress on Wed Dec 11 13:25:55 2013. wikipedia? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 18:33:21 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by El-Train on Wed Dec 11 13:26:36 2013. Yup. Bad concrete plagues the line to this day. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 11 21:26:29 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Randyo on Wed Dec 11 16:36:16 2013. You've got me on the first two. Grammmmmm-pa! :) |
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Posted by Graham on Wed Dec 11 22:28:52 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 18:31:36 2013. Yes, you can read the full article at the link below:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_Avenue_Line |
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Posted by Graham on Wed Dec 11 22:29:57 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 11 18:24:56 2013. Can you give some more background, I'd be interested to know the circumstances? |
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Posted by Graham on Wed Dec 11 22:32:36 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 06:47:37 2013. I wonder if anyone preserved a copy of the flyers, that kind of emphera is always an interesting (if sad) read. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 22:34:25 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Graham on Wed Dec 11 22:29:57 2013. Basically the federal government forced the MTA to open the line or pay back their share of the construction costs. The upper level could have been opened in 1984, the lower level in 1987. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 22:40:15 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Hart Bus on Wed Dec 11 12:40:44 2013. I was on that trip (11/03). We only had three cars, but it was probably the best MOD trip ever. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 11 23:10:48 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 22:34:25 2013. Why would they have built it and not opened it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 11 23:39:49 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 11 23:10:48 2013. It was all intended for the Second Avenue subway which ... well ... whoops. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Dec 12 01:25:32 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 22:34:25 2013. The upper level could have been opened in 1984Somehow, finding out that Archer is really thirty years old makes it seem a bit more acceptable that it's falling apart. Although, I must admit, what kind of agency blows money on a major capital project and then let it sit unused for nearly half a decade? And where was the media in shaming them? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 12 01:48:36 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 11 23:39:49 2013. Ironic, considering today's heavy usage of the "E" train to/from Sutphin/Archer! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:36:43 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 11 18:24:56 2013. So..they were planning to leave a constructed line all sealed up? Wow that woulda been stupid. The Feds were right to force the issue. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:38:32 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Dec 12 01:48:36 2013. Which again proves the old "build it and they will come" philosophy. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:42:25 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Graham on Wed Dec 11 22:32:36 2013. Yeah. I actually do have the glossy insert from the Daily News from the Sunday before the line actually opened- it explained all the bus changes as well. In fact, I've had it since I pulled it from the paper.But the thing from the Transit Museum, about 10 years earlier, I do not. That would've been especially interesting, as it probably talked about the SAS. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:47:03 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by seabeachexpress on Wed Dec 11 13:25:55 2013. So, as unfortunate as the loss of service into Downtown Jamaica was in 1977, there was no need for the loss to continue for 11 years...they COULD have provided service as early as '83 or '84....Wow- I had no idea. I first read something of this line in 1985, but I didn't realize that all it needed was the will to operate it. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:49:55 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Randyo on Wed Dec 11 16:36:16 2013. 148/Lenox and 57th/6th occurred in my lifetime, but before I could remember anything...As for Chrystie, my mom was carrying me... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:51:02 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 16:47:23 2013. I'd guess that a lot of E riders had no idea of the change- even though the information had been given out.. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:09:52 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 11 23:10:48 2013. The MTA was spending all it's available capital on recovering from the deferred maintenance era. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:13:31 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:51:02 2013. Oh yeah, that Sunday morning people got off the E at Parsons/Archer having no idea where they were, like if they were transported to another planet. I helped a few out. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:16:41 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:42:25 2013. Yeah, the bus changes in southeast Queens were nearly as radical as the changes in the subway system. Most of the lines feeding 169th St were diverted to Parsons/Archer and some of the lines like the Q4A were given new names (Q83). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:49:51 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Dec 12 06:49:55 2013. Until 1988, the system contracted within my lifetime (3rd Ave, Culver, Jamaica). Then 6 new stations in less than a year, then nothing for another 24 years (and counting). |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Dec 12 08:44:46 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Dec 11 04:55:05 2013. I rode that first train in with GLR. I don't remember seeing any redbirds but I do remember seeing T/O Thurston with his tie again, how my memory works. If I had stayed I would have over 25 but still not near the age. You must be getting close. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Dec 12 10:42:08 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:16:41 2013. I believe the Q-4A became the Q-84 and the Q-3A became the Q-83. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Dec 12 11:09:35 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Dec 12 07:16:41 2013. Q3A = Q83Q4A = Q84 Q5S = Q86 Q17A = Q30 B22 = Q24 B53 = Q54 B55 = Q55 B56 = Q56 B58 = Q58 B59 = Q59 Q49 discontinued |
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Posted by Graham on Thu Dec 12 11:57:39 2013, in response to Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by renee gil on Wed Dec 11 01:07:03 2013. Time for a question.Has anyone considered using Change.org or Whitehouse.gov to petition the US Federal Govt to consider funding the extension of the lower level to the planned terminus at 190th Street – Hollis Avenue? And before you ask, I'm not an American so I don't think I'd be able to use either. |
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Posted by Jrice on Thu Dec 12 12:16:55 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Dec 11 18:33:21 2013. That and NYCT didn't account for the planned shut down of the well water systems in Queens that put these tunnel under groundwater. |
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Posted by El-Train on Thu Dec 12 12:47:38 2013, in response to Re: Archer Avenue Subway - 25th Anniversary, posted by Graham on Thu Dec 12 11:57:39 2013. If they haven't planned and funded it in the 30 years since construction ended at Archer than they won't anytime soon, unfortunately. |
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