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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:01:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 26 08:43:33 2012. So if I run for office in the TWU I can count on your support? :) |
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Posted by Handbrake on Thu Jul 26 09:05:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 08:29:48 2012. To the first commenting poster (Chris). Do you work, or are you an adult child living off parental welfare??? Making comments about employees who work in a dangerous environment, and where time delays are critical to keeping individuals such as yourself happy as you casually railfan along the rails in your spare time.I suppose you feel that members of the military have those dastardly perks as well? No problem, because they, the military, have already provided the US government with a blank check. I suggest that you first grow up, take responsibility for yourself, if you are an adult over the age of 21, and attempt to comprehend what it is like to feed a family, and educate children. Walk the walk!!!! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:06:00 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:01:12 2012. Train Dude for TWU President!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:07:13 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:06:00 2012. Organizer? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:14:38 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:07:13 2012. Hey you want to start small sure! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:16:28 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Handbrake on Thu Jul 26 08:58:35 2012. Just jealous that he cant get a job down here i think...I mean he scored so HIGH on the tests... |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jul 26 09:21:29 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 26 08:19:27 2012. Huh? Paying taxes does not in any way give you the right to a "fair" paycheck. It has nothing to do with this at all.Oh wait, I forgot, you have your kids read and write/type everything for you so maybe it was their mistake and not yours. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 09:21:53 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:14:38 2012. Aside from the leased car and other expenses, do you know how much organizers are paid? |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jul 26 09:23:29 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 08:20:57 2012. You get perks. That's not the issue that we are asking Chris about. We're asking him what perks are relevant to the subject of this thread and the article posted in the OP. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:28:43 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 08:20:16 2012. Fishing is Cool...
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Posted by Southern BMT on Thu Jul 26 09:30:54 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Thu Jul 26 08:06:21 2012. 7 months?I haven't had a city contract for over a year and half... A year and half? I haven't had a city contract in three years? |
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Posted by numbersix on Thu Jul 26 10:08:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 26 08:26:27 2012. Is that pee soup? |
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Posted by numbersix on Thu Jul 26 10:13:34 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jul 25 21:45:31 2012. If you eliminate healthcare then more people will die before they can collect a pension, solving some of the retirement problem. Your attitude seems to be prevalent among people who have their health benefits paid by others, and don't have to pay private insurers $3-4k a month for family benefits. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:26:20 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 26 00:39:59 2012. So this whole thing started when Reagon was in the unions?You guys really go out of your way to legitimize stealing from the public trust. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Thu Jul 26 10:38:26 2012, in response to MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jul 25 16:15:00 2012. When a similar situation took place a my job some years ago. We had a town hall meeting in which one of the exces put his message in plain english. He basically said... We have the funds to improve A & B. However, we don't have funds for the raises you seek. However, if you insist, we can increase the salaries, but also face a round of layoffs. We went 1.5 years without an increase and I heard lots of complaining, but I was happy to still have my job. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jul 26 11:13:52 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by TERRapin station on Thu Jul 26 08:11:41 2012. Another weird post from the Turtle. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Jul 26 11:14:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by numbersix on Thu Jul 26 10:13:34 2012. You did not understand a thing I said.I am NOT eliminating health care or retirement. I am taking out of the hands of the City and the State. The City and State do not put the money away for these workers but just say "Let the Future Worry About It" The Future CANNOT worry about it. It is part of the daily operating cost of labor AND SHOULD BE PAID IN FULL when the labor is rendered. My Blue Cross costs $650/month or $7800/year. This amount plus $15,000/year for retirement comes to 22,800/year. This amount is ADDED to the salary of the workers, and paid to them up front. The Employee for his part designates a heath care account and a retirement account into which these funds will be deposited IN THE NAME OF THE WORKER, for use according the rules of these accounts and thus the funds cannot be raided by either the government or the employee of other uses. ROAR |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 14:28:04 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 09:28:43 2012. Nice big fish lips |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 14:39:48 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 14:28:04 2012. I know how to catch em...:o) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jul 26 17:31:19 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jul 26 10:38:26 2012. It seems that nobody in this thread has addressed the proliferation of high priced and redundant "managers" who replaced certain titles starting during the Gunn/Kiley administration of the 980s. I'm not too familiar with titles in some of the other departments but in RTO (formerly known as RTTD), trainmasters were replaced by superintendents and deputy superintendents for each line as opposed to trainmasters in charge of a zone. With the proliferation of line superintendents, the former division superintendents were ultimately elevated to the positions of Asst Chief Transportation Officers and the former aides to the supts now became District General Supts and since the divisions were broken down into those districts, their numbers actually doubled. The new districts virtually replaced the zones that were formerly under the oversight of the lower paid zone trainmasters. This was done supposedly to eliminate the line of promotional succession which according to Gunn/Kiley allowed former union members who might have a certain pro union sympathy to rise to supervisory and quasi managerial positions and to also remove them from civil service protection. What actually happened was that the same individuals who formerly would have been able to take an exam to prove actual qualifications for similar positions now merely had to submit a resume for a managerial position and if he/she knew the right people would now be able to achieve that rank. If the MTA (specifically the NYCTA) really wanted to save money, it would eliminate all these redundant managers and return to the days of the trainmasters who when allowed, did a lot better job at a lower salary than the overpriced managers currently in place. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 26 17:33:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by orange blossom special on Thu Jul 26 10:26:20 2012. Reagan was the boundary layer between America and third world. But this ain't the proper board to go there ... |
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Posted by chud1 on Thu Jul 26 18:12:38 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 26 17:31:19 2012. sounds good randyo.chud1 |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 20:26:39 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 26 17:31:19 2012. Actually, it was to provide for more accountability and autonomy for each line. How it was supposed to work was that the Line Supt. would not have to go up the chain of command to the ACTO and then back down through the adjacent division to get something done. He could call Supt. to Supt. to station or track or signal or car equipment. On some lines it worked well while on some lines they promoted the same types who were promoted under the system that you are talking about - fraught with nepotism and incompetence. In fact during your time I recall that one RTO mucky-muck out in Queens promoted his own no-nothing daughter. She was ultimately knocked back but as soon as he retired, she was up there again - and is still fucking things up. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 20:27:51 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 20:26:39 2012. Mucky Muck Muuuhhhaaaaaaaa!!! |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jul 26 21:13:35 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 14:39:48 2012. What do you put on the hook? Besides the fish.....STILL LOL@BAITING BREE |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:15:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jul 26 21:13:35 2012. It gets easier and easier... |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jul 26 21:17:26 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 26 08:26:27 2012. But look at the UNIFORMS we get! SPIFFY!STILL LOL@UNIFORM-LESS BREE-ANNE |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:21:14 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jul 26 21:17:26 2012. Yep and i look DAMN good in em! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:43:06 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jul 26 21:17:26 2012. And top quality work shoes too. I guess sooner or later I'll have to finally buy some new Riding Boots |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:45:54 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:43:06 2012. Actually those Work Shoes..... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 26 21:46:53 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jul 26 08:19:27 2012. He has "transit worker envy"..His dream was to be down there WITH you guys..but since he wasnt smart enough...he "tries" to shit on everyone who DOES hold "a job" working for any system. Too bad for him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:51:20 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:45:54 2012. But "you know who" says I never worked |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:52:10 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 26 21:46:53 2012. Hes had plenty of chances..Let him stay where he is we dont need any more crybabies down here.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:53:37 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:51:20 2012. Well of course you did seen it myself... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:54:18 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:52:10 2012. It really would be nice to see him get his dream job in an operating title. Can you imagine how big the pool would be, betting on how long he's actually last. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:54:56 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 21:53:37 2012. Well, there are the non-believers yannow. |
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Posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 21:59:48 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Jul 25 21:02:01 2012. All the Station Agents were hired back. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 26 22:00:43 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 08:29:48 2012. Yeah, you have lots of perksAdmittedly, that sounds similar to my employer. :-) Although, winter vacations aren't too terrible. It's a nice way to go to great Caribbean destinations, locations in the Southern Hemisphere, and even Europe isn't absurdly cold in the winter. :-) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:05:01 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:54:18 2012. It really would be nice to see him get his dream job in an operating title.Oh yeah... Can you imagine how big the pool would be, betting on how long he's actually last. I think they would be able to use HALF of it fix the budget problem! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 22:06:05 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 26 21:43:06 2012. Top quality all right!Lowest bidder, heavy and uncomfortable. It's a chore to lift up my feet. Because of this, they are a tripping hazard. The best part at the end of the day is taking them off, for those of us fortunate to have a locker so you don't have to wear them home. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 22:09:33 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 21:59:48 2012. How were they supposed to live in the meantime?Use a credit card till they got rehired. Those who could got another job. I can't blame them, if it happened to you (or your daddy) wouldn't it leave a bad taste in your mouth? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:09:48 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 26 22:00:43 2012. I think his post kinda went over yer head..A new C/R or a T/O can afford a Europe Vacation?? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 22:11:03 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jul 26 22:00:43 2012. Nice try.If you go to one of these places then can't get back to NY due to a snowstorm, NYCT will hang you. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:14:02 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 22:11:03 2012. Hey its Entertainment Bill! |
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Posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:14:43 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 22:09:33 2012. Well, they closed ALOT of booths, so they didn't need the all the people they had. Now, enough people have left, so they have all been hired back.They will hire from the test, next. |
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Posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:17:23 2012, in response to MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Jul 25 16:15:00 2012. What do people who make $30-40 an hour, who ride to work for free, want to tell to people who earn minimum wage who pay $4.50 a day about getting a raise?Let's see some screaming now. Remember, I used to be 1 of you employees for 9 years. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:18:00 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:14:43 2012. They will hire from the test, next.Next What? They will Hire a C/R or a T/O before they hire a station agent most likely.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:18:57 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:17:23 2012. I used to make mini wage as well so whats your point?Oh are you one of them who was such a screw up you got canned? |
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Posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:22:58 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:18:00 2012. I spoke to my Station Agent friend, he said they hired everyone back who was laid off. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 26 22:24:17 2012, in response to Re: MTA workers' union: We want more money, posted by B1bus on Thu Jul 26 22:22:58 2012. I didnt ask you that i am very much aware who was brought back thanks. |
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