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76ST STATION |
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Posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012 THE DAMN STATION EXIST. MTA WAS GIVEN A BLACK EYE ON THAT STATION, OF COURSE THERE IS A COVER UP. |
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Re: 76ST STATION |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Jun 25 23:18:28 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. we've got another one... |
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Re: 76ST STATION |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 25 23:23:54 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. 
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Mr Railfan on Mon Jun 25 23:34:58 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. Ok guys i was able to get some aerial maps from 1951 and compare them from 2010 satellite map (Credit to gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/)1951:  2010:  As you can see , in the 1951 aerial view the connection to the El at Liberty ave hasn't been built and it looks like there is some major construction going on directly at 75-76 Street and Pitkin. My take on it is that the tunnel extends beyond the Cinder block wall but its just that , a tunnel leading down to 76 Street with or without tracks and then ends. The area for the Station was probably excavated underground but nothing was built. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:08:05 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Mr Railfan on Mon Jun 25 23:34:58 2012. Construction ended in 1942 and was never re-started. The decision to connect to the BMT only was made before 1951, so none of these fuzzy pics show any construction, just empty lots which, by 1960 will be full of houses.There is no 76th station. There is probably nothing beyond the cinder block wall down there. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 26 00:18:00 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:08:05 2012. Ah ok ,you're probably right. I was under the impression that there was construction going on into the 1950s. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:30:03 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 26 00:18:00 2012. All the postwar construction here was restricted to the ramp down from 80th St and the Grant Ave station. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:10:25 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Mr Railfan on Mon Jun 25 23:34:58 2012. yes..you can see the timbered street covering..a usual sign of underground work.. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:12:13 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:08:05 2012. you are not looking at the picture,just talking smack...Also you do not know if the station is there or not. so please stop with the bullshit. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:14:24 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 26 00:18:00 2012. Look..do NOT allow ANYONE to play with you head..especially HIM.If you think its there..thats okay.. Dont let anyone browbeat you into believing what they believe..keep your opinions..fuck those dudes! |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:14:54 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 26 00:30:03 2012. And You know this How? |
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Re: 76ST STATION |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 26 02:55:44 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. MARC MALUSIS! da da da da da daaaaah |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 26 02:59:22 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. Couldya at least try to be funny? |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 08:04:41 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:14:54 2012. Same way you know much of what you know. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 08:05:57 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:14:24 2012. Oh behave! |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 11:27:45 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Edwards! on Tue Jun 26 02:10:25 2012. I don't see any such thing and, anyway, it wouldn't be there in 1951, as Chris said. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 26 11:33:44 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 11:27:45 2012. LOL! |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 26 12:42:11 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 11:27:45 2012. How do we know the city didn't just board it up for a few years in the 40's then in 51 decide to partially fill it in from the top? after all they didn't put that cinder block wall in till later also, you can tell that one wall isn't more than 30-40 years old otherwise it would have alot more Graffiti than just "PHONOH". I was in there in the early 90's and the wall was there so we know in 93 it was up. I noticed the signals and thought it was kinda suspicious but I was there for another reason and dismissed it unfortunately. There's a few things that we know don't add up like the fact there were bulkheads on tracks that are in use as the Pitkin yard leads from the ramp today, why would they wall those up if they were building the ramp? Were they not sure it was going in? That brings a whole new light on the B of T starting stuff they didn't know if they would finish. And the probability of the partial tunnel being built. The design of the layup tracks under Grant ave station aren't normal either with 1 track coming to a wall much sooner than the others. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 26 12:46:10 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 26 12:42:11 2012. How do know Captain Kirk didn't have it beamed up as an example of waste in a capital program of the 20th century? |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 26 17:00:38 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 26 12:42:11 2012. The only place there is a ciderblock wall is at the ends of A7 and A8 yard leads ad the wall was not there when I went in there in 1962. At that time there was no wall of any kind but there were mounds of black earth from the floor to the ceiling of the tunnel as if the rest of the tunnel(s) had been filled in at some point. When I went there next in 1983, the cinderblock walls had been erected. At the end of the "mainline" Pitkin Av subway S/O Euclid, there is a concrete wall which I have heard was only put there circa 1956 when the Grant Av station was being constructed and which replaced an earlier wooden wall which had been there since sometime around 1951 when it was decided not to continue further construction down Pitkin Av. What is interesting about that concrete wall is that it zigs slightly at track A1 making A1 track about 50 ft or so shorter than the other 3 tracks. Why that wall was built that way I don't know but there is some sort of a track map in one of the threads on tis subject that shows the oddly configured wall. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by mike cruz on Tue Jun 26 21:36:40 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by randyo on Tue Jun 26 17:00:38 2012. There's quite a few oddities if you think about it. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 26 22:02:35 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Jun 26 00:18:00 2012. You are to be commended for reading all of the posts and doing research so that you can have an informed opinion based on facts and not on what someone is feeling. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 26 22:07:45 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by randyo on Tue Jun 26 17:00:38 2012. What cross street does the tunnel end at? |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Tue Jun 26 22:17:25 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 26 22:02:35 2012. Agreed. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by mike cruz on Wed Jun 27 00:32:33 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 26 22:07:45 2012. I wanna say Forbell. |
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Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing] |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 28 16:15:52 2012, in response to Re: 76ST STATION [some map analyzing], posted by mike cruz on Wed Jun 27 00:32:33 2012. If you are talking about the Pitkin Av subway, from personal observation it appears that the current "end of the tunnel" is about midway between Grant Av and Eldert Lane. |
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Re: 76ST STATION |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 29 18:10:57 2012, in response to 76ST STATION, posted by the moose on Mon Jun 25 22:48:27 2012. That section of the IND was built long before the MTA and probably the NYCTA was even thought of. That was strictly a City of NY operation and possibly not even specifically built by the B of T although it was for eventual B of T use. |
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