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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 31 14:50:39 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 08:21:12 2012. Toward the end (early 2000's) I still R32's and R38's mixing together. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 31 14:51:29 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 31 14:50:39 2012. Toward the end (early 2000's) I still SAW R32's and R38's mixing together. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 15:33:17 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 08:30:58 2012. The only reason that they might have been though to be compatible is due to their similar physical appearance and dimensions. An knowledgeable railroad person would be able to see that they were incompatible due to the 2 different types of electric portions on the couplers. The BMT steels had a slide type of portion which did not advance automatically but had to be advanced by moving the cutting key to an advance position on the uncoupling valve after the iron and air coupling was done. The slide on the car from which the add was made advanced into the opposite slide pushing it out of the way and making the electrical connections. On the SIRT and later cars such as D types and R-1/9s, after the iron and air connections were made, both electric portions advance automatically and met each other making the electrical connections. The difference between the 2 types of portions is quite readily visible so it would be extremely easy to see that the SIRT cars and the steels would not be compatible at all not to mention that their propulsion systems were probably not designed to be compatible either. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 15:35:06 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 30 22:33:43 2012. Not only that but I seem to recall NYCRR Alcos and GHMs MUing. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 15:39:10 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 08:36:37 2012. In early 1970, I had a train on the RR one Sunday that consisted of 2 R-42s, 1 R-16, 2 R-27/30s, 1 R-16, and 2 R-32s at the other end. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 19:49:07 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 15:35:06 2012. Diesel and electric locos used to lash up as well. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 19:53:09 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by 3-9 on Sat Mar 31 14:51:29 2012. So when these R179's come along , they will be oddballs wherever they go and it does not look like they can mix with anything. The 4 car sets will also be split fleets,UNLESS: we run the V from Forest Hills to Euclid and the M from 168th Wash Hts to Fresh Pond ! Then all 4 car sets go on the M. Interesting exercise would be how to figure 4 car sets needed. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 19:59:43 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 19:49:07 2012. They may have coupled up iron and air, but according to an old time NYC engineer I knew, NYC electrics didn't MU with anything including other NYC electrics. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 20:01:53 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 19:59:43 2012. I was thinking of Pennsy ones. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Mar 31 20:24:02 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by randyo on Sat Mar 31 19:59:43 2012. And even the same type got interesting I've heard. :) |
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Posted by grand concourse on Sat Mar 31 20:32:37 2012, in response to Re: The R-179 contract, ad nauseum, posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 30 16:44:31 2012. Then it may as well be a separate order. If car bodies are 'stamped out', I don't think it is quite as simple as adjusting the length and all the equipment and stuff an additional 15 feet. Basically you may as well just put 5-car trains there. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 21:15:22 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 30 22:33:43 2012. Diesels didn't always "talk to" each other. That standard (I forget the AAR RP-number) only goes back to the '60s |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 21:24:26 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 21:15:22 2012. Well it's 2012 and these rolling CPU R160's don't talk to each other.It is like OS/2 or UNIX talking to DOS or Windows. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 21:32:42 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 21:24:26 2012. FTA should shove common standards up the properties' ASSES!!! |
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Diesel MU WAS: R-179 contract |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 21:40:23 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Rockparkman on Sat Mar 31 21:32:42 2012. http://www.railway-technical.com/us-musp.shtml |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Apr 1 19:06:54 2012, in response to Re: And the R-179 contract goes to...., posted by Joe V on Sat Mar 31 21:24:26 2012. It is like OS/2 or UNIX talking to DOS or Windows.No good examples since they both did/do talk well to both. |
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