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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:10:27 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 5 11:55:41 2011. But I have other things on my mind.I was also surprised I didn't remember it after I was reminded. It sounds crazy but it's something that happens when you get older. Often it is easier to recollect something from many years ago than something from yesterday. Just wait a few years and you will see what I mean. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:20:03 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Fri Aug 5 20:29:19 2011. Your first paragraph. That's pretty much true of many people. Your second paragraph-- while it would work, it could also take you out of the way considerably.The signs are not there for the people that are there everyday, but as I said the newcomers and that's why they need to be clear. I was once in Boston and was looking for Commonwealth Avenue. I was on a street that I thought was Commonwealth but drove a mile without seeing a single sign for it. So I pulled over and asked someone. He told me that it was Commonwealth. So I asked him why there was a sign every block for all the little streets but none for Commonwealth? He said that no signs were necessary for such a main street because everyone knew it was Commonwealth. It was the little streets they needed the signs for. Interesting philosophy. Signs only for the locals. Guess tourists didn't matter to them. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:24:25 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 5 01:00:06 2011. You insult so much. You don't even realize it. "Can't you follow a subthread? is a mild insult. It implies that someone is dumb. It is not that you are just asking a questionQuit acting like a little child. "You just insulted me so I will insult you back". |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:25:11 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Fri Aug 5 20:31:53 2011. You don't see it either? I replied to him already. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:38:34 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 5 19:58:19 2011. I shouldn't even respond to someone who talks to people the way you do. You make it so tempting to insult you back because you really deserve it.First of all only one person said there was an elevator. I didn't believe him until someone else kindly explained very clearly where the ramp was because without that ramp, the elevator that was described could not be used to get to the passageway. And yes, that is precisely why you build escalators, so people wouldn't have to walk stairs. You usually don't build them for a single flight but only for two flights or more. You are so smart so tell me what is the "scientific" reason you build them? There is nothing "scientific" about it. Further, Atlantic is a heavily used station, and I still maintain that if it were located in Manhattan, it would have had one. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:40:52 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 5 00:57:29 2011. I explained why I didn't answer.I was correct. It is meaningless to try to have a discussion with you because all you do is insult unless someone is agreeing with you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:43:57 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Fri Aug 5 20:30:41 2011. Explain.If other drivers won't let you in when you have your signal on, how does that make me a terrible driver? What's a good driver to you? Someone who can force his way in and risk an accident? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:46:49 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 5 19:45:56 2011. I also clarified somewhere else that although it can be initially confusing, it is not a problem if there is adequate advance notice and only a problem in heavy traffic when you would have to cross two lanes and the drivers won't let you in. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:34:19 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 6 08:55:52 2011. I think their point in signing the express roadway as Holland Tunnel/New York City is that they don't really want people using the express roadway and then switching over. I guess the phantom interchange with Route 75 (which leads to Elizabeth Avenue/Peddie St/Runyon St in Newark) doesn't count. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:39:09 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 11:38:47 2011. They were that specific that they told you to turn right into the left side? I find that unlikely. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:40:33 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 11:50:58 2011. But you wouldn't have listened! Why should you listen? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:41:32 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:06:03 2011. I disagree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:45:43 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:24:25 2011. No, it isn't |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:47:41 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:43:57 2011. Someone who can force his way in WITHOUT risking an accident. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:50:59 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:46:49 2011. That isn't a problem with adequate notice, since you don't have to pull in front of any car, you can keep going until you find an in. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 6 13:55:24 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:34:19 2011. I guess the phantom interchange with Route 75 (which leads to Elizabeth Avenue/Peddie St/Runyon St in Newark) doesn't count.What was Route 75 meant to be? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Aug 6 14:14:51 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:38:34 2011. This thread is PRICELESS - it shall be immortalized in the next edition of "Turtle Soup"... Stay Tuned..... |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:23:55 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:39:09 2011. I was already on the right side when they told me to turn left so there is no way they meant the right side since that was where I was when I started.I think some times the satellite has difficulty figuring out exactly where you are. When I was on the Belt Parkway, it thought I was on the service road beneath and vice versatile when I was on the service road I would get a direction like take the next exit That's why it old me to turn into the East River because it thought I was on East End Avenue not the FDR. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:30:18 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:40:33 2011. Of course I wouldn't listen. I was just saying that if I had never been there before and it was nighttime or foggy or a heavy downpour and there were no parked cars to guide me, it was conceivable that someone not from the area may have listened. (There are places where a road is divided and it is only one direction because the road splits off in two. Then some here said that all you have to do is look at the one-way or Do Not Enter signs and I responded that there weren't any. Then you know who accused me of not seeing them and that I was a poor driver. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:36:09 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:41:32 2011. You think it was my fault for getting lost in DC? The signage is horrible there.One time I needed K Street SW. I was only a quarter-mile away and couldn't figure out how to get there from the map because the street was cut up into so many pieces. So I asked a cop. He had to radio to get me directions. It was like a maze only one way to get to the part of the street I needed. It required about a dozen turns and that's not exaggerating. I had to write everything down. It was too much to remember. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:40:00 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:47:41 2011. Any time you force your way in, you are risking an accident. Your assumption to get ahead of him assumes he will be retaining a constant speed. What if he decides to accelerate at the precise moment you decide to cut him off? There you have it. ACCIDENT. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:43:35 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 6 13:55:24 2011. There's a wiki article. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:44:35 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 13:50:59 2011. It still depends on traffic and if the drivers will let you in. Most times they do but occasionally there will be a time when everyone is traveling close together and everyone will ignore your signal or start speeding up when they see it. I've had this happen for almost a quarter-mile. If I know a split is coming I usually try to be in the correct lane well in advance of the first signage notification. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:44:40 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:43:35 2011. Also this: http://www.nycroads.com/roads/NJ-75/ |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:46:50 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:23:55 2011. I hadn't read your post about it yet, so I still wasn't sure what you meant. Disregard.There is no way to prevent GPS from having inaccurate info due to interference and the like. It's still less likely than a person having an inaccurate impression of their location. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:48:14 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:30:18 2011. I still wouldn't pay attention because I'd have noticed that the road was divided by virtue of having driven on it.Finally my GPS shows intersection diagrams whenever it wants me to turn. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:49:03 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:36:09 2011. No, I disagree that it should say bridge only. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:50:48 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:40:00 2011. Disagree. In the event of stop and go there is no "constant speed" it is either "stop" or "slow." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:52:20 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:44:35 2011. I've never had this problem. The solution is too look aggressive about it. Someone always backs down. The cool thing about it is that the asshole who doesn't let you in gains nothing because you'll just get in in front of some other car that's ahead of them. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 6 16:58:17 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:44:40 2011. Interesting, thanks. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:41:19 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:46:50 2011. Is it interference or the fact that the service road is very close to the main road so it can't tell the difference? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:43:36 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:48:14 2011. My point was that if you hadn't driven on it before, you could make a potentially dangerous decision. I believe I did look at the diagram and it showed what I described. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:44:34 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:49:03 2011. You mean you agree that it should say bridge only. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 6 18:44:34 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BMTLines on Sat Aug 6 14:14:51 2011. Yes, more Turtle Soup, sir, please! :) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:49:07 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 6 18:44:34 2011. Glad you are both enjoying yourselves. Wait until he respond tomorrow. Look forward to more fun. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:50:26 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:52:20 2011. That's if you are able to speed up to do that. That's not always possible. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:52:28 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 14:50:48 2011. I wasn't really speaking of stop and go but about 30 mph. When it's stop and go, there usually isn't a problem getting in. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Aug 6 19:08:09 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:49:07 2011. I'm COUNTING on it - Everything he says can and will be used against him in Turtle Soup.... |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Aug 6 20:57:19 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Aug 4 09:08:45 2011. Ouch! That's worse than my Tom Tom GPS directing me onto the George Washington Branch. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:49:15 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:41:19 2011. It could be both but the latter is more likely in this case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:51:03 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:43:36 2011. No, you couldn't. Unless you're stupid. You weren't being stupid. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:51:27 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:44:34 2011. No, that is exactly what I don't think it should say. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:52:13 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:50:26 2011. I don't get it, why would you speed up? The goal is to get into a gap. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 6 23:53:09 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 18:52:28 2011. I've had no problems getting in at speed because there's always room. I'm a frequent lane-changer. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 01:51:55 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 14:23:55 2011. vice versatile ???? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 01:54:31 2011, in response to Re: OT = Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 11:44:37 2011. someone worth emulating That would be me. I may** only work in a mailroom, but I can sure as heck tell you that no one has ever driven me out of a job (or let me go) because I was an ineffective worker like you. **may |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 01:58:31 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Aug 6 12:46:49 2011. I honestly no longer understand what you are talking about in this subthread, but I do know that your continued defense of that statement is moronic. Spider-Pig seems to be doing a most adequate job of showing you to be wrong in this matter. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:00:20 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by hank eisenstein on Fri Aug 5 20:48:21 2011. Hank, I don't need your help, with the way you are acting. Clean up your act and then you can feel free to help me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:01:29 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 5 09:57:32 2011. Re: Signage and Customer Service (1090232)See? I was right, AGAIN! Can you admit it? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 7 02:01:35 2011, in response to Re: Signage and Customer Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 5 09:57:32 2011. Re: Signage and Customer Service (1090232)See? I was right, AGAIN! Can you admit it? |
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