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Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA Rail Rodeo-2

Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 26 17:08:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA Rail Rodeo-2, posted by arnine on Sun Sep 26 13:08:00 2010.

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It should be a convertible cab like MNR & LIRR has. The engineer's should have a full cab IMHO. But, when a cab is not in use it should be a 1/2 cab just like MNR & LIRR.

IINM you're looking at a convertible cab in Mr. Painter's photos. I'm pretty sure the door likely turns 180 degrees and can function as both a bulkhead door when occupied by an engineer, and as a cab door allowing access to those two seats but closing off the cab itself when that cab is unoccupied. This is exactly how the BSS car's cabs are designed, and that exact description appeared in the technical specification before the cars were ordered. You're not telling SEPTA anything they don't already know, they're just not foolish enough to provide their crews with another place to shirk their responsibilities.

Then the train loses only 2 seats per train no big deal.

If you look at the photos one row of three abreast seating is sacrificed, another three abreast row is converted to two abreast kneeknocker seating, and the front two seats are isolated. That means five seats are removed when a full-width cab is being operated, and two additional seats are rendered virtually useless by virtue of their being kneeknocker seats. Even with fully convertible cabs only occupying the ends of the train that means somewhere between 10 and 14 seats will be rendered useless by the full width cabs. On the 3 car trains that make up the majority of SEPTA's operations, that represents about 5% of the train's capacity, or two passengers per door. Can SEPTA hire you to ride the trains and explain to the passengers riding in the (hazardous) door openings why you thought it was more important the crew be given a hideout than they be afforded a seat?

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