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Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 26 17:51:45 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: SEPTA Rail Rodeo-2, posted by arnine on Sun Sep 26 17:20:39 2010. No, if you look at Mr. Painter's photos there is no latch,There has to be a latch because the crew has to have some way of passing between the cab and the passenger cabin. You can see the latch in the photograph of 802's interior just above the left aisle seat. The fact that we can see the hinges of the bulkhead door on its right side indicates that it should be designed to swing 180 or more degrees. The cab door on the half cab models should already be designed to swing nearly 180 degrees to allow the car to be operated with the cab door open and stowed out of the way. The addition of the bulkhead just puts another point at which it can be latched. plus I believe I was told it was permanent Yes you were, you just clearly didn't understand what was meant by 'permanent'. It's only permanent in that the bulkhead wall cannot be folded down to remove the intrusion on the passenger cabin. But hey, lets assume you're right, and those two seats in the area opposite the cab are so the C/Rs have nice comfy couches for their new lounge. That means each cab end now loses a total of five seats (admittedly two are still there, they're just useless). A married pair would seat 103, and a single car would seat 98. That means our three car train would now get down to just 304, 20 fewer than a half-cab Silverliner V set. That is just fourteen more seats than a Silverliner IV set operating with every row filled other than the middle seat, and a truly pathetic figure. If their employees shirk their responsibilities b/c they have a full cab then they need to discipline those members but not make all the engineers suffer for those who did not do their job. That's almost as funny as Randyo's idea about 'requiring' the bulkhead window not be covered. As Mr. Painter said SEPTA should have given input to the employees esp. when they are losing space as they had full cabs prior to the SLVs, some goodwill would have helped. Apparently no one here is particularly familiar with SEPTA's experiences with their unions. SEPTA can be a bit combative at times, but the unions dish out much more than they take, and when SEPTA has sought input from their unions they usually come up with the worst stuff (PCC IIs, N-5s, NABIs, etc). No, when train is ran at most 5 seats is lost no big deal other RRs have the same type of set up no one is complaining much well except railfans upset at the loss of RFW. You need to learn to count. We're looking at least 12 seats being removed from three car trains for these cabs, with another six seats being rendered useless, or at least fit only for children to stand on to see out the bulkhead window. |
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