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Re: MTA training (Re: Called A ''Terrorist'' By A T/O) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 14 12:55:19 2007, in response to Re: MTA training (Re: Called A ''Terrorist'' By A T/O), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 12:40:31 2007. There's a REASON why cops MUST see (and WRITE DOWN) "ID"...It is FEDERAL policy that photography of "infrastructure" *MAKES* you a "person of interest" until PROVEN otherwise. You of course can not prove this to us, so I will likewise refuse to believe it. Everything I have heard states that while DHS has issued guidelines about suspicious activity, there is no RULE as you have stated. If there was, then I don't see how NYCT could legally have a rule on the books [1050.9(c)] that SPECIFICALLY PERMITS PHOTOGRAPHY without the listing of any conditions such as "you must show ID to the police when requested." This is further backed up by the point that if you are stopped for questioning by a police officer, all you have to provide is your name. And without proff of any wrongdoing or the imminent doing of any wrongdoing, you the police officer can not continue to hold you or arrest you just because you won't show ID. (Of course that doesn't mean the police won't do it anyway. But then you have a case of misconduct.) But getting back on topic, that's why I don't believe you when you say police HAVE TO SEE AND WRITE DOWN ID, as per some DHS regulation. Maybe you have a misunderstanding. And if any police officers here think my understandably oversimplified narrative is incorrect, by all means chime in. I am very interested in this issue and only want to learn more. |
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