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Re: MTA training (Re: Called A ''Terrorist'' By A T/O)

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 12 23:17:38 2007, in response to Re: MTA training (Re: Called A ''Terrorist'' By A T/O), posted by Train Dude on Wed Dec 12 22:04:13 2007.

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The foamers' difficulty appreciating your perspective, and their social difficulties, notwithstanding, I do think the perceived risk is overblown. Even without videothere are plenty of ways to get information.

Plus, in New York, trespassing in subway tunnels and open cuts is rampant (check out the ramp sides on the Jamaica Line as it descends into the Archer Av tunnel, for example). And there is a whole homeless encampment under Grand Central! If there are people entering the tunnel daily to spray graffitti or live in cardboard boxes, what would keep saboteurs out of the tunnels? Moreover, they could photograph and diagram things in detail that you can't from a moving train because you go by the thing of interest too quickly.

That's what makes the whole anti-photography thing so silly. It simply isn't a credible threat.

I think that certain foamers make a nuisance of themselves. There are cases where they distract train crews, where they shove people aside or bark at them when they block the precious railfan window, and so on. Obviously that needs to be addressed, and if the foamer, due to suffering from Asperger's, or autism, or altenatively just being a self-centered asshole, can't make adjustments, then he needs to leave the train and take a break.

But I don't think MTA should be harassing anyone just for taking pictures - especially since NYPD made severalarrests last year where photographs or video were crucial as evidence.

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