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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon May 15 20:17:47 2017, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 12, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 12 11:14:50 2017. That was in hindsight a real mistake:What those in real estate failed to take into account was those properties were likely going to become just as valuable anyway had the 3rd Avenue EL remained and if anything might have become more valuable with the EL still there in my opinion, especially with the density the UES now has. My view as noted before on this is had the EL remained, it would have likely seen two rebuilds: The first in the late 1950s-early 1960s after the Park Row branch is redirected and becomes the Chambers Street Branch, This would have likely strengthened the line considerably to allow for 10-car trains and with it, consolidation of stations like this in Manhattan: 47th & 53rd Street both eliminated and replaced by a new stop at 50th Street 59th Street becomes an express stop if possible 76th Street moved three blocks north to a new stop 79th Street 84th & 89th Streets both eliminated and replaced by a new stop at 86th Street and that make into an express stop if possible. There also would be some consolidation in the Bronx. Tranfers would also have been made possible with other lines at varying stops. What would be then have likely been the Chambers Street Branch I suspect would have seen two extensions southward: the first around 1971 when the World Trade Center opened to Liberty Place and Church Street and a second extension around 1982-'83 or so to Battery Park City, ending by going to Battery Place and after going west actually going a little north at the very end to West Thames Street. With the extensions, this also would become the main branch of the line by 1971 and be the (8) with South Ferry becoming the (9). The second rebuild would have been after 9/11 and would likely have included moving the 59th Street stop north to 60th-63rd Street so it included transfers to both the Lex & Broadway Lines at 60th & the (F) (and now (Q)) at 63rd. At this point, a third branch is possibly added that would have followed the (8) along Worth, but staying on Worth all the way to West Broadway and eventually winding up on West Street and ending at what is now Brookfield Place (then the World Financial Center). This to me is what would have happened if people had the foresight to see the future need for the line. Of course, we first would have had to get through the financial crisis of the 1970's and so forth. |
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