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Re: If the 3rd Avenue EL had been rebuilt/Queens transfer

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed May 17 08:22:49 2017, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for May 12, posted by randyo on Tue May 16 14:59:46 2017.

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That would have made more sense:

With what we have known as the 63rd Street tunnel on 61st, it would have meant simply adding a transfer to that station and if necessary moving the 59th street station far enough north to include both that transfer AND the 60th Street transfers (meaning the OOS transfer between the (F) at 63rd and Lexington Avenue lines at 60th would technically have not been needed since that transfer would have been available via the 3rd Avenue EL platform and likewise an easy transfer to both Queensbound lines (as well as the lines at 53rd from that stop). That would have been part of the second rebuild post-9/11 that also would have brought the line up to CBTC and allowed for the heavier NTT trains to use the line (and would have likely been the first IRT line to be CBTC, with what likely would have been a new third branch to Brookfield Place being CBTC from the get-go).

The Manhattan Stops now would probably be this on the part where both or all three lines (depending on whether Brookfield Place would have been built post-9/11) would be:

Chatam Square (Canal Street eliminated)
Grand Street (likely rebuilt if possible to include transfers to the B, D and J)
Houston Street
St. Mark's Place (9th Street stop moved south and no longer express)
14th Street (Transfer to (L) and now an express stop)
23rd Street
34th Street
42nd Street (express stop, Transfer to 4/5/6/7/S, north exit at 44th Street)
53rd Street (47th Street eliminated, new express stop and Transfer to E/M/6)
60th Street (New express stop, Transfer to 4/5/6/F/N/Q/R/W)
68th Street (moved from 67th Street with north exit at 70th)
79th Street (moved from 76th Street with south exit at 77th)
86th Street (84th & 89th Street stations eliminated and new express stop)
96th Street (moved from 99th Street)
106th Street (no longer an express stop)
116th Street
125th Street (could have been rebuilt to be short-turn terminal)

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