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Re: New Metro-North Schedules Double Off-Peak Service to Melrose & Tremont

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Sep 28 19:18:47 2016, in response to Re: New Metro-North Schedules Double Off-Peak Service to Melrose & Tremont, posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 28 13:59:03 2016.

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The only city I know of that has fully done it is Denver. There's no difference between bus/LRT/commuter rail as far as fares go, probably because the Commuter rail is a new addition to the pre-existing system. The same passes work on all.

Philadelphia does it w/r/t passes but on weekends only.

Boston on paper seems like it does it (the city subway/bus passes are good for "Zone 1B" on commuter rail) but that zone restriction doesn't even cover all the CR stations within the T's reach.

Toronto's "The Big Move" includes standardizing on one fare structure. If we wait around long enough we can see how they pull it off. However they have already gotten a jump start at it: all the transit systems are moving to the Presto Card for fare payment. The way they handle it on commuter rail without having to suddenly gate off all the stations is pretty smart: tap it on at your source station platform and off at your destination platform. You can also set a default station pair by talking to a ticket agent. When your card has a default you do not need to tap off for trips between those two stations. Conductors will spot check with handheld devices (but unlike PoP fare inspectors, they just sell you a ticket at the on board rate if you "forgot" to tap in, at least for now).

Also, a surprising counterexample would be that Tokyo doesn't, at all. Despite the fact that the same fare payment cards work on over 12 different systems, you can't even transfer between the two different halves of the subway system. Also, often times a train will run on multiple railroads, or there are barrier free transfers between systems - these are misleading, because the turnstile just adds the two fares together when you exit. There's even a 3 fare example: The Tokyo Metro (F)ukutoshin line trains become Tokyu Toyoko commuter line trains which become the Yokohama Subway "Minato Mirai" line. Upon tapping out, the fares for Tokyo Metro, Tokyu Railway and Yokohama Subway are added together with no discount, despite the fact that you never even leave your seat to "transfer" between two subways and a railroad!

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