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Re: (L) to New Jersey

Posted by Michael549 on Sun Aug 23 11:45:37 2015, in response to Re: (L) to New Jersey, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 23 07:10:21 2015.

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From a previous message:

"People in New Jersey want to go to mid-Manhattan, not 14th Street.'

I do not believe that is a completely true statement.

I believe that people - in general - have travel needs and will use the available transit and/or transportation to get them where they need to go. Transportation is a means to an end - not the end itself.

It is not that folks are wedded (until death do us part) to a particular pathway, simply because they love that pathway, but because that pathway is useful toward their needs.

There are plenty of people that work in midtown. It is funny how 14th Street in your definition is NOT considered "mid-town". That's funny because during the several turf wars on this forum 14th Street was often called "midtown" when it suited their aims. It's also funny because 14th Street was sure as hell not called, "downtown" in those turf wars!

My major point is: YES - plenty of people work in "midtown" however defined. And YES - plenty of people work in "downtown" however defined. And YES - plenty of people may walk from Grand Central Station/Terminal, or PA Bus Terminal, or Penn Station, or Atlantic Avenue to their destinations. It can not be denied that PLENTY of those folks also take the subways to their destinations - there is sure as hell a lot of folks both getting on and off the subways at those stations!

The transportation systems at Grand Central Terminal, or PA Bus Terminal, or Penn Station, or Atlantic Avenue has the task of bring riders into NYC - it has become the job of the subways, local buses, streets and sidewalks to distribute those folks THROUGH the business district to their final destinations. A transportation system like the PATH in Manhattan does a bit of both of those roles.

There are plenty of folk from New Jersey who travel about Manhattan for work, shopping and other needs - and they do not feel bound or "trapped" to only traveling on one street just because their train or bus terminal is not that street. Kind of silly idea just has to be stopped - quickly.

Please! I've worked for years with folks from New Jersey who worked on 125th Street even though they used the trains from Penn Station! They certainly did not feel "stuck" to one street! Or in any "bound" to midtown!

Here's an example, when the damage at the WTC was extensive and the PATH trains were limited to only traveling to 33rd Street, plenty of folk from New Jersey were getting both off and on the PATH trains at the Christopher Street station from the subways - because that was pathway to/from home. Why? Because that's where the station was! People tend to find where the stations are located, and to use them.

Mike





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