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Posted by Bill West on Mon Jul 27 15:59:22 2015, in response to Re: Photo of NYC varnish at St. John's Park Terminal, Lower Manhattan, posted by displaced angeleno on Mon Jul 27 10:13:39 2015. You've presented an excellent example of transit advocacy to critique.Transit, cycling and walking all reinforce each other. -That's merely because individually they are inadequate to provide all the transportation people are seeking. Automobiles alone seem to cause problems for all the other modes. -Only because, as non-users, motorists object to being forced to pay for others. On the other hand if all forms had to pay their own way I suspect the superior service and economics of roads is what most people would choose. The true transit advocate understands this. -Sorry, preachy like phrases make an argument look weak. Increasing the transit capacity of a city defeats the natural mechanisms that limit excessive growth. Although there are lots who seek to move into the city there is no obligation to fulfill that desire and certainly no right to make others pay for doing it. Using deeper vision, look at Manhattan from the 1850's to date. Each transit step (streetcars, Els, subway) has invited an increase in the density, which raised the living cost and lowered the quality of living. In attaching blame we do need to sort out which is the cause and which is the effect. With the open space in the adjoining states, 8 cities of 1/8th the population would have been more economical and more enjoyable to live in. Only the real estate developers have benefitted from Manhattan's higher density, not the citizens It is a common political fallacy to find people who to want to raise their pride with their life style choices but do not seem to be self confident enough to be able to tolerate others declining to join them. Raising this to advocacy and wanting to compel other people to conduct their own activities in one's own manner however is not the way in a democracy. After all democracy is rule of the majority in defending themselves, not in attacking others. Participation in joint activities within that frame is voluntary not compulsory. And finally, this board was founded for the transit hobby (history, operations, technology). Transit's politics belong on the Off Topic board, this is not NARP or the like. Olog started this thread with a nice hobby picture, let's keep it that way. Bill |
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