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Posted by Bill West on Mon Jul 27 22:25:32 2015, in response to Re: Photo of NYC varnish at St. John's Park Terminal, Lower Manhattan, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jul 27 19:31:58 2015. "inextricably" in regard to future land use & transit is in itself a political viewpoint. My view has been that there is no democratic reason for transport to be funded by the government. We manage getting your groceries, clothes and home on our own, as transport is much lower ranking than those, there is no need for general government involvement. The present state of affairs only exists because for a hundred years politicians have lied to the public about the real cost of transit, to the point where (a portion of) the public keeps urging services that they would drop like a hot potato if they were up to date with that real cost. All that is needed is time to talk factually and slowly bring their falsehood hardened positions back to reality.Quick counterpoints for the other items: Third, I completely disagree with your analysis of the quality of living in NYC. -my recollection of my last visit to Manhattan (2015) is dirty sidewalks, trash on the curb, construction debris & noise. Coming from the fresh air of an undensified community, I felt that at the sidewalk level NYC was not a place that looked desirable to live in. only in dense cities that there are enough people to support the diversity of cultural institutions/activities -entertainment is way down the list of things important to life. Contributing enough support for arts is a personal matter, not something to force people into via densifying the cities. That densification "tax" is like a subsidy, suggesting that those artists aren't popular enough for the people to openly pay their full cost. 80% of America does not live in those 4 big metro areas, should we densify the rest of the country to fix that? quick transit ride from good live music venues -just another transport need as already addressed pollution, costs of auto exhaust and noise -add an air tax to the fuel, categorize by emissions test results connected to the license plate. land wasted on parking lots -voluntarily sold and voluntarily paid for multilane highways -what road taxes are for, no more, no less public health costs -that's what we get when we push the people into a compulsory health scheme. Lying to them about the cost of care doesn't help either. Our nearest Province on the west coast here is British Columbia. Their "free" health costs something like $6000/family/year in working class taxes and friends tell me of the slow, choosy service. Paying the "vehicle air tax" back to the whole of the public would give the non vehicle users a compensation that could be gauged to any actual costs caused to them in their area. the cost to the polity of auto deaths/trauma -that's what private insurance is for. the "hidden" tax we all pay to sustain the oil cartel -if one doesn't want to pay for gas, then they shouldn't buy a car, they should find some likeminded people and buy their own transit method. the cost of USN fleets -The Navy is about our safety from international instability, both physically and in all areas of trade. Oil countries are just a revelation of one aspect of that risk. If you paid those "user fees" you might think twice about using your car. -I do pay those user fees, the Treasury's position relies on being able to get the taxes out of us eventually. The only problem I do have about paying the costs I cause is the people who are trying to grab money out of my pocket for their costs. In none of these transportation risks and costs is it the government's job to decide for people how to meet them, only that they must meet them for themselves and those whose services or property they ask the use of. More basically, the point/counterpoint here is why I view these subjects as political and thus they should have started on the Off Topic board. Bill |
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