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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Dec 30 14:35:13 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15?, posted by fwt9000 on Mon Dec 30 14:19:23 2013.

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If you look at the states were you can marry under the age of 18, they require some sort of constent and some require an order from the court.

Still.....at 15, your childhood is now gone for good once you get married.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 14:35:41 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 13:42:57 2013.

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They sure tried, but not everyone is the LGBT community and they have voices too. There might be a message there for the Progressives who think they rule in everything.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 14:38:59 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 13:22:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, yeah, blame it on the RW. Progressives were born perfect, should rule, and everyone else should get out of the way or (as Oprah suggested) die.

Then the world will be COMPLETELY perfect.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 14:55:12 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 11:07:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I see you're still playing games. If you want to answer a statement like that with an irrelevant question, you're only going to make the questions abound more.

And that's aside from the fact that I answered how McCarthy was proven right—the plethora of leftists in DC (never mind Hollywood).

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 14:56:21 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15?, posted by fwt9000 on Mon Dec 30 14:19:23 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not all "solid red" states either.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 15:43:45 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 30 13:49:01 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I would call for that firing if I felt in good faith that it would improve the business's bottom line. The only philosophy of a for-profit business should be increasing value for the shareholders through any legal means.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 15:45:22 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 14:38:59 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly. IAWTP.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 15:56:55 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 15:43:45 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The only philosophy of a for-profit business should be increasing value for the shareholders through any legal means.

So do you think that businesses (electric companies with coal-fired power plants, for instance) should lobby against stricter regulation of their activity, if stricter regulation is bad for their bottom line but good for the health of Americans?

Assume the lobbying I am referring to is 100% legal. Is it therefore desirable?




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BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 15:57:08 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 15:45:22 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Y'all should GET A LIFE

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 16:44:28 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:43:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
At one point advocating separate but equal treatment of races, religions or sex was not only considered OK, it was considered benevolent. Nowadays anybody who advocates such a thing is properly derided. While I will defend to my death their right to their own opinion, it's about damn time that opposition to same sex marriage is treated as unacceptable.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 16:45:04 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:06:42 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No one here is defending him.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 16:46:23 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 09:37:53 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He did suffer the consequences. What happened to him were the consequences of his speech. It's just that in his case those consequences did not include losing his job.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:04:04 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 30 14:35:41 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't know many progressives who feel that way. Most of them are very insecure about power.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:04:37 2013, in response to BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 15:57:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
+1000

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 17:07:04 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:04:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Tell that to those politicians in government.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Dec 30 17:16:02 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 13:10:51 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Indeed, kayfabe as they call it in WWE.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 17:16:36 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 15:56:55 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, they should.

This is why I believe that political campaigns should be 100% taxpayer funded and lobbying should be legally curtailed to the extent constitutional.

There is also the matter that even if you consider it wrong for a company to do that, they're going to do it anyway. You can't rely on so-called "good corporate citizens" to improve society.

Of course, if consumers decide that a company should be rewarded for being a good corporate citizen, then that would be good for the bottom line and there would be no need for the government to get involved, but unfortunately it won't work like that all the time.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 17:29:57 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:04:37 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Amen ... Happy new year 2 you.....8-)

Some folks should get over their dumbass selfs...

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 17:33:55 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 17:29:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I stopped following this thread ages ago. But got way tired of seeing the BS in the listings......


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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:34:03 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 17:29:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Happy New Year!

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 30 17:35:50 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 17:07:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well, any politician, progressive or regressive, will use all the levers at his command while in office. But the more diffuse power to influence the trend of society seems to be in the hands of conservatives. Or at least they play the media game better.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 18:16:18 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Dec 30 17:16:02 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yep ... follow the rules, or GTFO.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:17:09 2013, in response to BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 15:57:08 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now you understand how the liberal media thinks. LOL!

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:17:33 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 17:07:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
pwn3d.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:26:20 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 17:29:57 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, you preach to everyone else, you homophobe.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 18:42:06 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:26:20 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Meh

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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:43:49 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 18:42:06 2013.

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Ah, the homophobe confesses.

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Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit

Posted by SubwaySurf on Mon Dec 30 18:49:40 2013, in response to Re: BAH way TOO MUCH duck dynasty shit, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 30 18:17:09 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh? You cal me a homophobe constantly. The man lying right next to me in bed, right now, cannot stop laughing at your total idiocy..........I. Showed him your posts to prove a point about OCD reta3ds, such as your self.

Gotta go...back to business yannow

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 19:58:35 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:47:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
MAY be an asshole?

I'd say he's a pedophile.

The division of domestic work is up to each individual couple.

The downside of the First Amendment is speech that is dangerous or reprehensible, like this case.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:27:45 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 07:50:03 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're saying that people shouldn't have the right to call out this intolerant cretin for what he is?

He's talent, he cashed their check. He's in a "reality" show. He IS his own product and A&E PAID him for it. He doesn't have the right to say anything his handlers do not approve of. Could be bad for the network. He damaged the brand.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:32:58 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:00:29 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No he does not have any right to say shit. He is a reality show character. He does not have the right to say thing one without producer/network approval until his contract is expired and he's off the network. He cashed their check. Those are the rules.

You said he "may be a asshole". Not that he is.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 20:39:47 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:32:58 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How do you know his contract doesn't permit him to spout off disgusting opinions?



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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:50:18 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 20:39:47 2013.

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The proof is in the network's original action.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Easy on Mon Dec 30 20:51:14 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 20:39:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Even if it didn't he still has a right to say what he wants. Just not without repercussions.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:54:33 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 30 09:48:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yet, too many expect his employer A&E to NOT act upon what is a breach of contract?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 21:14:36 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 16:46:23 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nothing happened to him. That's the problem. Hateful speech like that (anti-gay/black) and this (anti-women/pro-pedophilia) shouldn't get a pass.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:46:14 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:50:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WABB. They are obviously not obligated to suspend him for this otherwise they would not have been able to reďnstate him.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:46:55 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 20:54:33 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So now you know exactly what the provisions of his contract are?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:47:22 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by bingbong on Mon Dec 30 21:14:36 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes it should. This is a free country.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:50:59 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 30 20:39:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh. We've both been "talent" and done teevee ourselves. You should SEE what's in those contracts under the "morals clauses" and see what you can't do and keep your show. :(

And the lawyers have only gotten worse over the years for all the stupid boilerplate prohibitions they keep adding to them. Back in our time, it was maybe a page and a half. Now it's a separate book. I'm sure A&E's lawyers have been VERY busy lately.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:51:51 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:46:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'd like to see his contract just to see what's in there.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:52:22 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Easy on Mon Dec 30 20:51:14 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Studios and network attorneys would disagree as long as you're still under contract.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:53:21 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:46:55 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do YOU?

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:54:04 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 30 23:47:22 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's different for "talent" though ... hasn't Jayzee explained that often enough yet? We're trying to as well - we were IN that biz.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 31 00:28:47 2013, in response to Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Dec 30 02:36:06 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Think A&E regrets taking him back yet?

No. I was browsing through the channel guide and see A&E running the show a lot.

If anything they're exploiting the publicity he generates.

But it's not enough to get me to give the show a shot and watch it.


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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 31 00:41:29 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Dec 31 00:28:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'd tend to agree ... since folks don't normally associate the "A&E" brand with Disney, I'm sure they're cruising on the "bad publicity is good publicity too" mentality here. But when it DOES catch up with the Disney "brand" watch Disney put a fast end to it. Right now, the ratings are probably over the moon as folks tune in to see "WTF" ... let's see what the NEXT book looks like. :)

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 31 00:43:46 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:53:21 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not making any claims about what his contract says except that which is obviously supported by known facts.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 31 00:46:46 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 30 23:54:04 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lucky for her.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 31 00:47:05 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 31 00:43:46 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But in all reality, you don't really KNOW the facts. All I can tell you is that morals clauses in entertainment contracts are serious business, and after so MANY shens over the years, they're pretty airtight. Now "advertising sales" might intervene and say, "we're making too much money on this" but eventually, the "no controversy" clause WILL get enforced. ANd I strongly suspect once Disney's ownership part in A&E gets to more people, it'll be Disney that breaks out that baseball bat.

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Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 31 00:48:35 2013, in response to Re: Duck Dynasty Star: Women Should carry Bibles, cook, Marry at 15, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 31 00:46:46 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Kept me from beating on some sassy kids over the years. Heh.

They write a book on that stuff even for Podunk TV station reporter contracts. :(

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