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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 23 23:37:08 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 23 23:29:14 2023.

You people really are sick.

Blame the victim is #leftthink



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 23 23:42:43 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 23 23:37:08 2023.

What victim? How is a massive chaebol a victim?

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Re: Today’s Session Canceled

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 24 00:29:32 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 23:08:46 2023.

What's "blindly voting red"? If you mean not voting for RINOs, then that makes sense.

Makes zero sense to vote blue in any case whatsoever.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 24 05:26:04 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 23 23:29:14 2023.

Only in your opinion. Doesn't make it correct.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 24 07:05:33 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 24 05:26:04 2023.

And in the opinion of lots of other people too. More people than support Trump.

Hell, there are millions who voted for Biden and then voted red for everyone else.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Mar 24 08:00:15 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 24 05:26:04 2023.

Opinions are like assholes...

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Mar 24 08:00:51 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 24 05:26:04 2023.

Opinions are like assholes...

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 09:02:11 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 23 12:49:44 2023.

Its more than just "harass" him, there out to destroy him

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 24 10:33:51 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 09:02:11 2023.

And that’s because he’s a criminal. When a prosecutor goes after any other criminal, you don’t claim they’re out to destroy him.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 11:28:40 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 24 10:33:51 2023.

This is Trump...big game, not just any other "criminal".
Besides, what charge was this "criminal" ever convicted of?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 11:35:13 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 11:28:40 2023.

There's always a first offense.

Why are you harping on this? None of us know whether Bragg has sufficient evidence to convict Trump of concealing 130K in taxable income. But if he actually did, do you really not want Trump charged with that offense?



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 24 15:56:14 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 11:35:13 2023.

I would want EVERYONE who Bragg decided not to charge to be charged as well.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 19:26:07 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 11:35:13 2023.

"None of us know whether Bragg has sufficient evidence to convict Trump of concealing 130K in taxable income."

He don't. If he did, the indictment would have gone down by now...by others who refused and said in as many words that this is a waste of time.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 20:05:47 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 11:35:13 2023.

That's not what the case is about if I can trust what I read in the NYT. This is what I gather, but correct me if I'm off base.

Trump didn't get paid, he paid someone else. So it's not a case about hiding income. Supposedly what Bragg is trying to prove is that Trump made the payment to help his election chances. If that were the case, then Trump should have declared that as a campaign contribution. Election fraud is a felony.

There also could be a misdemeanor fine for mischaracterizing the payment in business records but I don't imagine that grand juries are convened for potential misdemeanors.

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Re: Today's Session Canceled

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 24 20:34:05 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 20:05:47 2023.

That's not what the case is about if I can trust what I read in the NYT

That's a "no" right there.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 20:58:26 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 19:26:07 2023.

He don't. If he did, the indictment would have gone down by now.

WTF? He interviewed a new witness this past Monday. You wait till you have all your information before deciding whether to indict.





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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 21:00:48 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 20:05:47 2023.

So it's not a case about hiding income.

If you invent 130K in "business expenses" that didn't actually exist, you have reduced your net taxable income by 130K.



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 21:50:16 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 21:00:48 2023.

But the expense did exist. Or are you saying that it didn't?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 21:54:12 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 20:58:26 2023.

Requiring a prosecutor to have "all the information" is a very high standard. I would think that charges happen once there is sufficient information to prosecute. If so, then Jim is correct that there is not yet sufficient information.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:00:05 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 21:50:16 2023.

My understanding is that the supposed crime was claiming a personal expense (not offsetting anyone's income) as a business expense (which would reduce his business income).

That is stealing from the people of the State of New York, if true.





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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:02:10 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 21:54:12 2023.

Requiring a prosecutor to have "all the information" is a very high standard.

It's not a standard. It's just prudent practice, and there might be plenty of reasons for doing otherwise.

Bragg still had a witness on Monday, and there hasn't been any meeting of the grand jury since. How could there possibly be an indictment yet?




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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 24 22:05:24 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Mar 24 19:26:07 2023.

The only indictment announcement came from Trump. That's not a barometer of what the DA has or doesn't have.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 24 22:09:31 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 24 22:05:24 2023.

What Trump says is never reliable.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 22:25:27 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:02:10 2023.

There could very well be people that have evidence that aren't known nor is their evidence known. It may be logistically impossible to gather all of the evidence.

It's being reported that there hasn't been a meeting of the grand jury since Monday because Mr. Bragg cancelled the rest of the week.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:35:34 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 22:25:27 2023.

What's your point?

All we really know is that Bragg hasn't issued any indictments.



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 24 22:09:31 2023.

Yes. However, I reliably believe that Trump wants to create the fear of violence and property destruction if he is arrested. But without saying anything that formally meets the criterion of incitement to riot.





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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:01:09 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:35:34 2023.

My point is that you responded "WTF" to a sensible post stating that Bragg would have charged Trump if he had sufficient evidence as if it were crazy talk.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:08:13 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023.

It's fascinating as a neutral observer to see how many people are all in with Trump. I don't know what to make of it. Maybe S-P is correct about populism after all.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 24 23:21:58 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023.

lo@lm!

That's ridiculous. Trump supporters are very peaceful.



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:24:30 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 24 23:21:58 2023.

It was Trump that said it.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 24 23:30:56 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:24:30 2023.

Said what?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 00:06:36 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:08:13 2023.

I’m correct about the what-now?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 25 00:19:21 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 00:06:36 2023.

You don't like populist candidates. Maybe you have a point. Trump is a populist isn't he?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 04:40:02 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Fri Mar 24 23:01:09 2023.

Yes, because the grand jury isn't done talking to witnesses yet.

It's not as though there are just minor things to follow up on.





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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 04:45:17 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 24 23:21:58 2023.

What kind of person can charge another person, in this case a former President of the United States, who got more votes than any sitting President in history, and leading candidate (by far!) for the Republican Party nomination, with a Crime, when it is known by all that NO crime has been committed, & also known that potential death & destruction in such a false charge could be catastrophic for our country? Why & who would do such a thing? Only a degenerate psychopath that truely hates the USA!




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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 07:28:15 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 04:40:02 2023.

Amazing how these guys think it’s all wrapped up because Trump said he was being indicted

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 08:18:50 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:02:10 2023.

Soros awaits with baited breath.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 09:04:47 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023.

Lo@lm! Trump has always been against violence!

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 09:39:48 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023.

What the fuck does "Reliably Believe" even mean? Are you competing with kamala harris for the US "word salad" championship?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 09:41:02 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 07:28:15 2023.

Moe and curley pillow talk?

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 09:59:40 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 25 00:19:21 2023.

Yes. Thank you. Poopulism is a scourge.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 10:00:58 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Fred G on Sat Mar 25 07:28:15 2023.

It’s amazing how anyone still thinks that not everything that Trump says is an outright lie.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 10:13:17 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 10:00:58 2023.

Larry joins the pillow talj

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 10:43:57 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 25 10:00:58 2023.

The trouble is that, often enough to be misleading, Trump tells the truth.

But not often enough that something is more likely than if Trump hadn't said it.



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 10:45:06 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 08:18:50 2023.

LOL.

For every Soros there are five Thiels.



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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 10:45:23 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 10:43:57 2023.

LOL@ALM

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 25 10:52:53 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 24 22:37:13 2023.

Terrorism is his tactic-One.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Mar 25 10:57:20 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 25 10:52:53 2023.

LOL@BINGBONG

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 25 11:16:10 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 10:45:06 2023.

Sorts has deep pockets. He won't rest until we are destroyed.

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Re: Today's Session Cancelled

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Mar 25 11:38:10 2023, in response to Re: Today's Session Cancelled, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 25 10:43:57 2023.

He wasnt telling the truth about last Tuesday's arrest.
Say what you want about Trump, but that last Tuesday lie was brilliant. The media bought into it big time. It took the spotlight off of him & put it squarely on Bragg. When Tuesday came and went w/o any indictment, here comes the questions...as in what happened? Whats up with the delay? Did somebody get to you? You got 2nd thoughts or cold feet? How is it going to effect my future etc. All these questions are out there. Now it keeps getting pushed back. Suddenly there are new witnesses. Where were they when Vance had the option to drop the hammer on Trump? Shows you what a great tactician Trump can be.


But the bottom line is something aint right here.

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