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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 17:23:44 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 16 10:16:26 2011.

I'll take my chances, psycho-dork.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 17:25:30 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:30:21 2011.

I said that WWII ended, officially, with the formal signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the Battleship Missouri on the morning of September 2, 1945, in Tokyo Bay.

Terrapin Station wrote,

"No, he said that because his stated end point, 1946, was at the end of the war."

Weinberg is stating his assertion that "1946 was at the end of the war", which is clearly incorrect. I can't stand these fucking word-humping games you guys play.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 17:25:30 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:30:21 2011.

I said that WWII ended, officially, with the formal signing of the Japanese surrender aboard the Battleship Missouri on the morning of September 2, 1945, in Tokyo Bay.

Terrapin Station wrote,

"No, he said that because his stated end point, 1946, was at the end of the war."

Weinberg is stating his assertion that "1946 was at the end of the war", which is clearly incorrect. I can't stand these fucking word-humping games you guys play.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 18:12:11 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 10:20:20 2011.

Yes, because the War against Japan was really significant to Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 18:14:18 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 09:07:31 2011.

No, he brought up the war because of ignorami like you and JayZee who wouldn't get the significance of 1946.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 18:17:10 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 08:16:04 2011.

And it's not like it ended, it's just that iSlam has replaced Christianity as an enemy of Jewry.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:06:02 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:38:38 2011.

No that is not "liberalism." Islam and Christianity and also Judaism for that matter are equally open to mockery.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:06:27 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 11:32:14 2011.

Hitler was dead in 1946 you know.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:12:56 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 09:35:50 2011.

It was in the name of anti-enlightenment. It was in the name of a society based on fear, awe and the superiority of the leadership over the populace, rather than a society based on reason, curiosity and the superiority of the populace over the leadership.

It was religion without the supernatural.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:14:44 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:10:52 2011.

1946

Pay fucking attention. The 6 wasn't a typo.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:15:59 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 08:19:11 2011.

What does Hitler have to do with anything that happened in 1946 when he was STILL DEAD?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 19:18:35 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 11:44:41 2011.

Nope, he was reporting what the Rabbi was expressing.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:19:49 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 16 10:07:01 2011.

+1!

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:24:31 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:23:06 2011.

Which is why his range of years ended with 1946.

Jeez, are all you OTChat right wingers really this dumb or is it an act?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Dec 16 19:26:22 2011, in response to Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 07:40:59 2011.

Now That's Comedy!

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:35:47 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:21:02 2011.

Leo Frank

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:09:43 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:26:46 2011.

In the victory mosque threads he would defend religious Muslims as regular people and give examples of how that is true against claims that they are terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. Nothing wrong with that. But here he has a chance to do the same when a religious Christian is unfairly accused of inciting violence and instead he offers that while over the top, he understands the sentiment.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 20:13:28 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:09:43 2011.

Where is a religious Christian accused of inciting violence?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:16:02 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 20:13:28 2011.

In the thread title.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 20:27:24 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:16:02 2011.

No.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:30:04 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 20:27:24 2011.

Maybe "incite" isn't the right word. Can you unintentionally incite violence?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:40:35 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:30:04 2011.

The first sentence in the OP link also says that Tebow winning the Super Bowl could incite violence.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 21:04:53 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:40:35 2011.

But Tebow wouldn't incite it. He doesn't seem to be the violent type.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 21:09:21 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 21:04:53 2011.

I don't know that incite implies intent. I could look it up but what would be the fun in that?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:26:35 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:07:22 2011.

Because they are portraying Tebow as some religious lunatic.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 16 21:27:25 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:26:35 2011.

He IS. HIs self-aggrandizement is an embarrassment.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:28:09 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 17:25:30 2011.

It's still the post end of war time. You don't just turn off a lightswitch and say "War over". There is a transition time back into total peacetime.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:29:48 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 16 17:25:30 2011.

There is no so called "word humping". 1946 is still the wartime era. Active fighting was over, but it's not all of a sudden the next day back to normal.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:31:26 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 12:21:00 2011.

You have a double standard regarding Muslims and Christians. You respond negatively to people that object to what they perceive as excessive displays of Islam (as you should) yet excuse those that object to Christian displays.

WTF? When did I "respond negatively to people that object to what they perceive as excessive displays of Islam"?

And where did I "excuse" the rabbi's behavior before he apologized? I said it was "over the top". I said "But the fundamental fear that some Jews have of excessive Christian displays of piety is justified by history." I'm justifying the underlying fear, not the absurd comments that I believe he made out of fear.


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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:31:58 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:06:27 2011.

Yes. But his aftereffects were held for years.

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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:34:30 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 16:43:29 2011.

Okay thousands, and the terror of millions more. So how many people has Tebow killed and terrorized to make SMAZ's ridiculous analogy valid?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:36:24 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:14:50 2011.

Apology or not, statements like this bring even more hate directed towards someone like Tebow. I don't agree with his line of thinking, but who is he hurting? The guy prays before a game and when he does well. He really believes his religion. How is that so terrible?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:37:38 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 16 11:53:24 2011.

No Al said it for shock value, and to try and pint Tebow as some sort of fundamentalist religious threat.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:40:11 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 16 12:16:39 2011.

No, he said it right here:

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=886890

He stated that it's justified that some jews have a fundamental fear of excessive Christian displays [such as Tebow displays].

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:53:49 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 20:09:43 2011.

You are correct. As Luch said, when it involves minorities or Muslims, "tolerance" and "diversity" is stressed, but if it's am overly religious white Christian they are "inciting violence".

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Fri Dec 16 21:55:25 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:31:26 2011.

You often bring up your Muslim neighbor that served in the military to counter negative images of Muslims. In this instance you didn't criticize the rabbi other than to say that he was over the top. IOW you think that that the rabbi is correct but that he just went too far.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:56:13 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 20:13:28 2011.

If Tebow wins, this whole thread is about how violence would occur by fundamentalist Christians, and even though the Rabbi who started all this "apologized", rationalizations are being thrown all over the thread about how "Jews should have a fundamental fear of overly religious Christians (like Tebow).

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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke''

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:56:15 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:34:30 2011.

I never said SMAZ's analogy had any merit whatsoever.


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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:57:55 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 21:04:53 2011.

He's not. He's actually quite the opposite, but since he's a very devout religious, the left has painted him as some sort of fundamentalist that "jews should fear"

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:58:06 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:40:11 2011.

The words "such as Tebow's displays" are your words, not mine. I've never seen them.


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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 21:59:59 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 12:38:38 2011.

Correct. If it's fundamentalist Muslims, "diversity and tolerance" should be enacted, but if it's fundamentalist Christians, rationalize how people should be scared to death of them.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:01:43 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 16 19:06:02 2011.

Christianity and Judaism are equally open to mockery, but not Islam. According to liberals it's then "diversity and tolerance".

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:04:25 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Dec 16 13:21:02 2011.

Yeah, he seems like a hard leftist.
And I am really getting sick of the "say anything you want", and if you get called on it, just say "I didn't mean that" and "I'm sorry". He knew exactly what he was saying, the damage was done.

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Re: LI Students Suspended For ''Tebowing'' (Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:06:46 2011, in response to Re: LI Students Suspended For ''Tebowing'' (Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 13:27:58 2011.

They did fine or suspend a Lion for mocking Tebow's prayer kneel a few weeks ago. I forgot what guy it was but he the Lion got a touchdown and then he did that that stupid prayer pose kneel to make fun of Tebow. They did fine him (or suspend him for a game, I forgot which), but they did discipline.

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Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:09:49 2011, in response to Re: L.I. Students Suspended For ''Tebowing(Re: Tebow Experiment Labeled as Embarrassing ''A Joke'', posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Dec 16 13:31:47 2011.

Uhm, the school wasn't "promoting" any religion, the KIDS were doing that pose. In fact, it's the OPPOSITE of what you are saying. If the kids were indeed praying (and not just making fun of Tebow), the first amendment GRANTS THEM THE RIGHT to pray as their religion requires. There is NO law that states that people can't pray in a public building. You are COMPLETELY wrong.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:23:06 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 16 21:27:25 2011.

WHO cares? How does what he does hurt you? I don't understand the leftist mind.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:24:58 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:31:26 2011.

I said it was "over the top". I said "But the fundamental fear that some Jews have of excessive Christian displays of piety is justified by history."

And again the question, how is Tebow's display any more "excessive" than the minority players that do the sign of the cross and other prayer rituals in baseball and football, etc?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:27:41 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Fri Dec 16 21:58:06 2011.

Yes, but you were responding to a post about Tebow's displays at games, and the rabbi's comments on him and his prayer and religion.
Your post is a direct response to that, and what other "excessive displays of religion" would we be talking about in this thread, in a post that you made in response to the rabbi's comments about Tebow?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 22:30:49 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 16 21:27:25 2011.

In what way doe it embarrass you?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 22:32:08 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 16 22:24:58 2011.

I get more concerned when I see angry, young, Islamic men burning flags and dummies.

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