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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:16:20 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 09:52:48 2011.

Perhaps people should be able to admit and hire whomever they want as long as they aren't part of or do any business with the government. Of course nearly all businesses do business with the government even if they don't do so willingly.

But which colleges in 1960 didn't admit Jews?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:19:21 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 10:11:50 2011.

That's my point. Tolerance doesn't extend to everyone. Perhaps the more the people are like you, the less tolerance you have.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 10:19:27 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:16:20 2011.

Believe it or not, a private community in Forest Hills, NY did not want blacks or Jews in their community and said so in the bylaws, well into the 60's.

I don't think too many universities banned Jews as late as the 60's, but if Tebow has any success, that can change.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:25:34 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 10:19:27 2011.

There was an article in the NYT a couple of years ago about a private community in the Bronx that doesn't admit blacks although it's not in their bylaws. They just happen to have no black residents and rejected blacks that the Times sent and accepted whites that we're sent. I don't remember if Jews were mentioned.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 10:31:15 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:52:02 2011.

smaz, I think, displays extreme paranoia. His manifestations here are troubling. I would be concerned if I knew him in real life.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 10:32:34 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:25:34 2011.

In Forest Hills, it was written along with other rules regarding what color everyone's roof has to be, not parking face out, etc.....

The Bronx case sounds like a thread.

I live in a neighborhood that is about 20% black and 20% Latino. Maybe slightly higher. In Queens, I find blacks to be confined to black neighborhoods.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 10:38:31 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 08:27:17 2011.

Can you, in some way prove what you are saying? I'm not disagreeing - just invoking the reverse of Pascal's wager.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Dec 17 15:10:19 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 09:21:46 2011.

It's so true. Minorities are never mocked for being religious.

HBD explains it all.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 15:21:42 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Dec 17 15:10:19 2011.

Here's how it works:

Tebow beats Miami and kneels down for a few seconds after winning

Next week, Lions destroy Tebow and Broncos and mock him by kneeling like him

Liberals complain that Tebow is the worst QB in history and does not deserve to start again and only got a chance to attract Evangelicals to the stadium and tv screens.

NFL does not issue a statement regarding the mocking. I say, if a religious minority was mocked instead, the NFL would go crazy issuing statements, launch a nationwide "tolerance" and "diversity" tour, run PSA's, etc............

It's only wrong when a minority is mocked.

That's how it works.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 15:48:03 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 07:01:53 2011.

Yep. Deal with it.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 15:49:14 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 07:00:40 2011.

I don't know. If there's a game on, I switch the channel to a movie. I don't do "ball" ...

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Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 17 15:50:17 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 15:21:42 2011.

The Lions are playing on borrowed time. I predict resumption of the longest losing streak in history . . .

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 15:50:29 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:59:41 2011.

Well since this isn't about T-ball, but instead politics, is T-ball left or right?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 15:54:27 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:43:41 2011.

First step to recovery is admitting that you've become Olog. "Leftist" this and "leftist" that is the first sign, yo. :)

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 15:57:14 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:50:54 2011.

You really need to ask yourself why do you care what *I* think when I've clearly said it was MY opinion and it doesn't apply to anyone else? Have I been on this silly bandwagon here in the first place other than expressing my own opinion? And yes, it's subjective too.

How about you just fill in my opinion in a reply and I'll stamp it "ditto?"

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 16:16:37 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 06:30:25 2011.

So Western Civilization didn't exist before 1517?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 16:19:02 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 16:16:37 2011.

Absolutely not.

And then there is always Gandhi's view (though he was prejudiced on the topic). Asked his opinion of Western Civilization, he said "I think it would be a good idea."



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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 16:23:35 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 16:16:37 2011.

What's up?

I meant "rise" as in elevate Western Civilization. Helped bring Europe out of the Dark Ages.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 16:56:52 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 16:23:35 2011.

The dark ages ended before 1000.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 17 16:59:09 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 06:09:31 2011.

Protestant Christianity gave rise to the Western World. Took Europe out of the Dark Ages. That's how it works.


Spanish, Portuguese Italian and French explorers were Protestant?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 17 17:01:58 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 16 21:27:25 2011.

IAWTP

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 17 17:05:14 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 16 22:30:49 2011.

In what way doe it embarrass you?

In the same way as the hysteria of the Taliban and similar cults embarrasses real Muslims.

You should listen to what Rabbi Hammerman is saying even if it's un-PC.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 17:07:40 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SMAZ on Sat Dec 17 17:05:14 2011.

I really think that it's you that needs to worry. The fact that you are paranoid doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 17:10:17 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 16:56:52 2011.

I must be confusing them with Middle Ages before Enlightenment. Protest Christianity taught people to stand up to the Church and read the Bible in their native language instead of relying on a priest to translate from Latin. The encouraged education. The Church didn't.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:27:29 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:49:15 2011.

What do rights have to do with anything?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:29:36 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 07:03:05 2011.

Learn to read. The Rabbi never said that Tebow himself would be doing any threatening.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:30:33 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 07:04:50 2011.

And I've already explained it to you, but you ignore explanations you don't understand or don't agree with.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:34:06 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 08:11:43 2011.

EXCELLENT POST! +1

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:34:54 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:07:11 2011.

I mock all of them.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:35:55 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 10:38:31 2011.

But why should he? The burden is on the person making an assertion to prove it, not on the person denying it. So one can't set out to disprove what God does until one actually proves what God does do.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 17:47:03 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:35:55 2011.

I think that you are misreading or not understanding. Tebow thanks God for his athletic successes. He isn't asking anyone else to do it or trying to convince people that its true. He has no obligation to prove anything.

AlM is, however, saying that God does not go out of his way to give someone athletic success. He's the one who is making the assertion. He should be willing to prove it.

However, all I said was that I was not disagreeing with him, necessarily but I'm choosing to invoke the converse of Pascal's wager.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:54:25 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:25:34 2011.

Breezy Point is similar. It is statistically the "whitest" neighborhood in the city. It is where Rep. Bob Turner lives* (R-Brooklyn/Queens)

*I do not in any way construe his choice of living there as evidence of any racism whatsoever.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:56:12 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Easy on Sat Dec 17 10:00:09 2011.

As I've said many times before: I would! Parking spaces are for parking and not hanging out. If someone was standing in a parking space smoking a cigarette you'd tell him to move (or not, depending on if you want the confrontation), so why should it be different if he's smoking opium (of the people)?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 18:06:50 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 06:49:15 2011.

Wow ... better not tell you my opinion of republicans then. :)

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 18:07:24 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 17:30:33 2011.

He's gone full Olog. :(

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 18:07:49 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 17:47:03 2011.

So just because someone believes something, it should be assumed to be true until disproven? That's an untenable philosophy.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 18:11:44 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 17:10:17 2011.

Many of the major European Universities were founded before 1517.

What encouraged people to read their own bibles was not Martin Luther but Johannes Gutenberg. Before that, books were too expensive for peasants to have. And it took until much later than the Protestant Reformation for literacy to actually become widespread.

Enlightenment was in the 18th century, not 16th.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 18:15:04 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 18:07:24 2011.



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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Dec 17 18:29:44 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 18:15:04 2011.

No thanks.



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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 19:23:45 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 17 18:07:49 2011.

Again you are either deliberately missing the point or just not reading correctly. Tebow believes. He says that he believes. He is not asking anyone else to believe. It's the people like smaz who want everyone not to believe and feel threatened by those whp do.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Dec 17 19:51:46 2011, in response to Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 16 07:40:59 2011.

This Rabbi is an idiot.



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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 20:04:46 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 08:11:43 2011.

By the way, on thinking about it, I have no problem with Tebow praying after getting a touchdown, or whenever. I would also have no problem with his employer (and no one else) telling him he can't do it.

Can they though? How can someone say they don't have a right to "pray", we do have freedom of religion.

I also think it's stupid. God isn't on Tebow's side, or on the other team's side. If Tebow is thanking God for his football success it indicates an amazing degree of self-centeredness.

Of course. I said that WEEKS ago: See Here, but he has every right to believe his praying does whatever he thinks it does.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 20:05:28 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 08:13:29 2011.

And that's where we disagree. It's not "justified", his fear is irrational.

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Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 20:09:03 2011, in response to Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 17 15:50:17 2011.

Lions are not a bad team. I don't think they will slump any time soon.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Dec 17 20:33:03 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 20:04:46 2011.

If neither the NFL or Broncos ownership has any objection, there is no problem. I just don't like the guy. Same for New England. Tomorrow is my personal Hate Bowl. Glad I have O Gauge trains.

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 20:34:05 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by RockParkMan on Sat Dec 17 20:33:03 2011.

Well, we agree on this here.....I ALSO can't stand New England. F the Patriots!

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Dec 17 20:35:07 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Dec 17 20:34:05 2011.

Got any O Gauge?

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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 20:41:09 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 10:38:31 2011.

Of course I can't prove it. I'm expressing an opinion, not stating facts.


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Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 17 20:56:27 2011, in response to Re: Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by AlM on Sat Dec 17 20:41:09 2011.

I know yours is an opinion and so Tim Tebow's beliefs are just as valid and that's my only point. I do not denigrate you for your beliefs and I do not denigrate Tebow for his.

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Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques...........

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 17 22:19:17 2011, in response to Re: Liberal Rabbi: Tebow Super Bowl Win Would Lead Christians To Burn Mosques..........., posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 17 20:09:03 2011.

They'd better pray they don't.

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