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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:20:25 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:18:49 2012.

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+1 Obtuse, too.

your pal,
Frec

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:20:32 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:19:53 2012.

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At least you see your post and the bump made absolutely no sense. YOU were the one that started, and it's my fault for responding? LOL.

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 14:20:53 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 10:16:19 2012.

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We didn't bail out Lehman Brothers...right? while no one really does like bailing out big corporations, it had to be done to save alot of jobs involved. There would have been a severe domino effect.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:21:24 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:20:32 2012.

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If you can't understand my posts then perhaps you shouldn't read them.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 14:21:50 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 10:41:12 2012.

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"Yes I know? The point?"

Bush is not a Liberal where you blame Liberals for the bailouts.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:23:29 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:21:24 2012.

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Your post apparently only made sense to yourself. It had no relevance to my post at all, and wasn't asking me anything either, so there wasn't anything for me to say.
So then you bump it, like you wanted me to respond to thew prior post. Okay. So I respond, and it's my fault? LOL.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 14:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 13:32:43 2012.

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But he attended Koran study classes and it was a good thing for his resume in 2007.

NY Times

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:24:43 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 14:20:53 2012.

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Much as Lehman Brothers' shareholders got exactly what they deserved, the US should have bailed them out. Not because it was fair, but because the US and world economy would have been better off. It was an understandable mistake not to bail them out, but a mistake nevertheless.



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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:26:09 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 14:24:07 2012.

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Lutherans who attend Catholic schools may attend catechism classes. That doesn't make them Catholics.


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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:26:20 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:23:29 2012.

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Can't help ya man.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:26:48 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 14:21:50 2012.

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Lots of conservatives didn't like Bush because he was too liberal in many things.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:27:08 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 14:24:07 2012.

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Coolness.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:29:10 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:26:09 2012.

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No, but why should they get upset if it's mentioned that they went to Catholic school. The spray pepper spray if anyone mentions Obama's Muslim Family or the fact that he went to Islamic school.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:42:30 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 14:11:41 2012.

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You guys always bring it up tho. We're content to think of more productive ideas.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:47:35 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:42:30 2012.

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But don't you see the hypocrisy? The same reasons given for "why we should think he's a Christian (and who cares)", is the same reasons given for why we are NOT to associate him with Islam.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:50:18 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:47:35 2012.

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I dunno what does Obama say he is? Whatever he says is good enough for me.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 9 14:54:35 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:23:29 2012.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 15:00:36 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 9 14:54:35 2012.

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LOL!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 15:00:53 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:02 2012.

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I disagree.

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 15:02:51 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:26:48 2012.

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"Lots of conservatives didn't like Bush because he was too liberal in many things."



Name 5 of them...................

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 15:04:32 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 12:05:36 2012.

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"...coming from you it is about as meaning full as a used condom thrown out with the morning's kitchen garbage."

Are you related somehow to Train Dude? like are you both twins since you both have trashy minds.


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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:05:56 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 15:04:32 2012.

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Using a condom or having sex means someone has a dirty mind?
Are you some sort of prude?

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 15:06:11 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:18:49 2012.

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PWN3D

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 15:06:50 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:19:46 2012.

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It doesn't matter. He could use an entirely fictional religion and the analogy would still be valid.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:09:27 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 15:06:50 2012.

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Yes, but he used "gay". Not religion. I said the Baptist analogy was valid. You are equating Gay to Religion?

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:11:44 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 15:06:11 2012.

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Not in the least, I said the Baptist analogy was valid, but You are equating Gay to Religion?

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 15:22:45 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 12:05:36 2012.

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http://www.democracynow.org/features/subprime_mortgage_crisis

Has a decent timeline WRT what happened, how and why. Has PLENTY of credibility.

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 15:27:27 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 15:04:32 2012.

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Both are equally repugnant. Think it's more an issue of school of "thought". RWers are like that.

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:28:29 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 15:27:27 2012.

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Where's the link to anything that said tempera/removable paint was used on the chicken joint?

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 15:37:57 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 15:04:32 2012.

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Get a job you bum. Daddy is tired of supporting your lazy ass. The bandages are off. There's no reason why you can't work. Do you hear me now?

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 9 15:38:50 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:28:29 2012.

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It's with the link that shows the "Conscription" is mentioned in the constitution.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 15:47:30 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 9 11:04:02 2012.

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I don't.

I embrace diversity.

It's who I am, what I am and what I've always been and will be.

I feel sorry for people who don't live in places like Astoria.


Of course, that is an example of a neighborhood with lots if minorities, but it's not really black/Latino, but a lot of everything else.

Still, you SMAZ, are one person who I believe.


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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 15:52:16 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:29:10 2012.

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No one objects to the statement that he went to a Muslim school (or at least a public school in a country where the state religion is Islam). The objection is to calling him a Muslim.


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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 15:54:15 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 10:23:37 2012.

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Actually, I don't think being a Mormon is a problem for Romney.

I don't think Obama's Muslim roots, nor his conversion to Rev Wright Christianity is a problem.



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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 16:00:34 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:06:22 2012.

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Your dad was a Lutheran? So what are you? Half German, half Italian?

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Re: Mitt's 3M Problem

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 9 16:01:54 2012, in response to Re: Mitt's 3M Problem, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Aug 9 14:20:53 2012.

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Which had already begun by the time they did the bailout. It was known by the spring of 08 with the 1st Bear Stearns bailout that there was a lot of instability in finance and something needed to be done. 6 months later, it collapsed.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 16:01:54 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:11:44 2012.

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In analogies, it is understood that situations aren't identical but have some kind of similarlity.

The analogy is this: people are saying something false but not detrimental about Obama. Obama supporters resent this. So how about if someone said something false but not detrinetal about you, would you resent it? You've said no, which is fine. But that doesn't change how other people feel.


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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 16:04:37 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 9 15:54:15 2012.

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I don't think any of that is a problem either.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:07:36 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:57:14 2012.

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Fact. Obama's family was Muslim, and he even went to a Muslim School. There's a connection.

And? Nobody's disputing that. It does not make him a Muslim, nor was he ever one.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:08:26 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 16:01:54 2012.

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Being gay is not even remotely similar to being a particular religion.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:11:59 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:01:53 2012.

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No, you don't get it. It has NOTHING to do with whether you have any particular background. It's an analogy. AlM was explaining why we get annoyed when people post untruths about Obama's religion.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:13:25 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:07:36 2012.

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Never said it did. But they get defensive even if you mention his families connection to it, again, like it matters.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:14:37 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:11:59 2012.

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That's great, but there's some connection to that religion within his family. If there was a connection with his family members being gay, it's not the same as being a religion.
If Obama's father was Gay, you can't transfer that to your son in any way.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:14:38 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:07:29 2012.

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Except that even if it made sense, why do you think it's ok to perpetuate untruths without correcting them?

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:15:46 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 15:09:27 2012.

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Once again, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:17:04 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:08:26 2012.

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Way to completely miss the point.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:18:25 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:14:37 2012.

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Which doesn't matter at all because it doesn't excuse people calling him a Muslim who should know better. Religion is not hereditary like eye color.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:18:30 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:14:38 2012.

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Because the gay example is not remotely similar to the religious example. I said the analogy was fine in the case of "Baptist".

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:19:06 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:13:25 2012.

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Who gets defensive over that? Nobody disputes that.

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Re: Barry's 3M Problem

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 16:19:37 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 16:15:46 2012.

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yes it does, as it wouldn't be the same thing if someone assumed I was gay because "my father was gay", as opposed to people thinking I was the religion my father was.

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