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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:27:02 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by mr mabstoa on Thu Aug 9 13:17:52 2012. Good for him.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:29:13 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 12:45:30 2012. I used gays as an analogy because there is no more evidence that Obama was a Muslim than that you are gay.???? But there is. He has Muslim heritage. How is there "gay heritage"? Why would someone say anything about "being gay"? Even if my father was "gay", it's not heriditary. Neither is religion, but when your parents are a religion, and you even go to school for it, there's a tie. Unlike gay. OK, suppose your boss said, Chris is a Baptist? Again, wouldn't you really be annoyed? Not because it was negative but because it was false. Who cares? Seriously. And why would someone say that if my father, morther, grandfather weren't gay and I never went to school in reference to it? Remember, I'm addressing YOUR comment that Obama supporters get upset about this. The reason is that it's false, not that it's pejorative. And they do. If someone puts Obama or his Muslim father, stepfather, grandfather in the same sentence, right away the defense gets pulled out. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:30:45 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:29:13 2012. I dunno why. It's the "religion of peace" as you often refer to it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:30:47 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:29:13 2012. I dunno why. It's the "religion of peace" as you often refer to it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:02 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 13:19:40 2012. If my father/name a relative was a Baptist, and I went to school for it, sure why not, who cares? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:31 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:02 2012. ...at least it would make a lot more sense than the crazy gay example. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:57 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:30:45 2012. I refer to it as such? And often? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 13:32:43 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 09:55:03 2012. Because so-called "leftists" are apparently concerned with facts. Obama was never a Muslim. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 13:34:24 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:29:13 2012. OK, you wouldn't be annoyed if your boss introduced you as a Baptist. I would be. And for the same reason it annoys me when Obama is referred to as a Muslim. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:36:32 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 9 13:32:43 2012. Never said he was, but they get upset if you even mention his family in reference to it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:37:17 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 13:34:24 2012. Who cares? And Obama's family was. My family was never Baptist, so don't why it would even come up.In any event, at least this makes sense, as opposed to the moronic gay example. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 13:42:48 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 12:45:30 2012. GP38 was never sighted leaving a gay bar. Barack Obama had a Muslim father.I don't think he's a Muslim. I also don't think he's a Christian. But you can't claim he's Christian and deny he's Muslim, because there's a similar degree of flimsy evidence to substantiate both claims. He's probably agnostic/irreligious. This would correspond with his socialist beliefs and education. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:43:45 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 13:42:48 2012. Good post. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:46:13 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:31:57 2012. Yupyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:47:11 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:46:13 2012. Two years ago...that's often?? Make it sound like I do all the time? (Hint, I haven't in almost 2 years). |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:47:20 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 10:23:37 2012. bumpyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:48:29 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 10:23:37 2012. I am Luch's keeper? He see's it similarly though....you guys make a big deal out of it and come out with all the defenses in the world. Just look at Al in this thread....and you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:48:56 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:47:20 2012. And Luch is hardly right wing by the way. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 13:51:08 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:43:45 2012. I was just assuming that part about you and the gay bar, bro. I felt fairly safe doing it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:48:29 2012. What are you talking about?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:51:48 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 13:51:08 2012. LOL!!!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:53:18 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:51:12 2012. You bumped my post for some reason, saying something in regard to Luch. What are you talking about then? I didn't see any other reason/purpos to talk about your post, what were you asking? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:53:49 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 13:34:24 2012. I wouldn't be annoyed, but I'd clarify it. Then again, you and I probably consider facts more important.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:55:15 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:53:18 2012. Ask Luch, he called it a problem.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:57:14 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:53:49 2012. Fact. I have no reason to be connected to gay (his first analogy which made no sense).Fact. I have no reason to be connected to being Baptist (but at least that makes sense as a possible analogy). If my father/family member were Baptist and I went to a Baptist school, at least there would be a connection to why someone might make reference to it. I wouldn't be annoyed, who cares? Fact. Obama's family was Muslim, and he even went to a Muslim School. There's a connection. It's no big deal, so what? As the other Chris said, I don't think he's Muslim, but I also don't think he's Christian, and who cares. He seems irreligious. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:59:04 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:55:15 2012. Again, what does Luch have to do with my post? I am not his keeper.YOU brought up Luch. I didn't know how your post was relevant to my post the first time, and you weren't asking me a question, so what was the point of the bump? You are the one that "bumped", so no wondering why I responded? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:59:12 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:57:14 2012. Why are you explaining that you're not gay or a Baptist? Does that annoy you?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:01:53 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 13:59:12 2012. ????I never too offense to it. I was wondering how the gay example was even remotely analogist. I never took offense to the gay interjection in reference to me, just the reason why it would be remotely relevant to the Obama example. As for "Baptist", I said I don't care. I also acknowledged it made much more sense as an analogy for argument's sake. I also said it would make much sense and would be a viable analogy if I had Baptist connection. What's your point? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:01:58 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:59:04 2012. I didn't author a post called "Barry's 3M Problem" in which one of the problems listed was "Muslim". Luch did and since you were curious as to why Obama being a Muslim was a problem, I thought I'd direct you to the source :) He seems to think it's a problem, I don't.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:04:36 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:01:58 2012. I still don't know what that has to do with my other post. My claim was Leftists made a big deal out of it. I don't know what that has to do with Luch. He may not be a Leftist, but he's also not a right wing nut. So again, the point of the bump? The post you were bumping didn't make sense the first time around, and you are the one that asked me to acknowledge it the second time around and I did, of which we wouldn't be having this sidetrack conversation to begin with. So the point? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:05:15 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:01:53 2012. You don't have to explain that you're not gay or Baptist I and I'm sure others here don't care.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:06:22 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:37:17 2012. My father was a Lutheran and I would be annoyed if I were introduced as a Lutheran. I don't want falsehoods stated about me even if they are irrelevant. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:07:15 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 13:43:45 2012. But totally irrelevant to my point. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:07:29 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:05:15 2012. I did in reference to explaining how it made sense in the case of people to make that reference to Obama, but wouldn't in the case of me. I have no connection to either. Obama does. And the gay example makes no sense period, as even if my father "was gay", it's not something you take on because your "father" was. Unlike Religion. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:07:54 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:04:36 2012. 3rd time explained:I didn't author a post called "Barry's 3M Problem" in which one of the problems listed was "Muslim". Luch did and since you were curious as to why Obama being a Muslim was a problem, I thought I'd direct you to the source :) He seems to think it's a problem, I don't. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:08:40 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:06:22 2012. ???????????????I am Catholic and my father was a Lutheran, and later a Presbyterian. People thought I was my father's religion many times. Who cares? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:09:07 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:07:15 2012. Very relevant, as it totally shows why the gay example was absurd. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:09:20 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:07:29 2012. You dont have to explain, honest.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:10:53 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:07:54 2012. And for the third time. What does any of that have to do with my post? Again, it didn't make any sense when you replied to my original post like that, and it made even less sense when you bumped it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 14:11:41 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:07:15 2012. Actually, it's not. The same people who insist everyone accept Obama's claim to be Christian want us to do so on a similarly flimsy evidentiary foundation that they themselves reject when confronting those who claim he's a Muslim. If he's not a Muslim, he's not really a Christian either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:12:26 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:09:20 2012. ?????How else are you to explain why the gay example made no sense whatsoever? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:12:54 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:10:53 2012. Can't help it if you can't read bro. Not my problem.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:13:27 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:12:26 2012. ....and even if I hung out in gay circles, the gay example would STILL not make a valid analogy to Obama's Muslim connection. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:14:46 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 9 14:11:41 2012. Correct. These same people find no problem when the same circumstantial evidence is made to his "Christian roots" are the ones that say you can't use that same circumstantial evidence in reference to Islam. Why is Islam so much of a problem? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:15:18 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:08:40 2012. I do. You do realize you started this thing by asking why Obama supporters care. I'm telling you why and you change the topic to saying you don't care. Well, fine, but I do, and so do many other Obama supporters. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:16:28 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:12:54 2012. Sure it is, you were the one that made the post that had no relevance to my original post, and then decided to bump it to boot? And you are saying I was making a problem when there wasn't any? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:17:29 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:15:18 2012. Change the topic!? LMAO! You are the one that brought up totally unrelated "gay" topic into the discussion. At least the Baptist example made sense though. The gay one made none. Who was changing the topic? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:18:49 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:17:29 2012. Look up analogy in the dictionary. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:19:46 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 9 14:18:49 2012. I know what it means. The gay example could never be analogous. The Baptist one, was acknowledged to be perfectly analogous. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 9 14:19:53 2012, in response to Re: Barry's 3M Problem, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 9 14:16:28 2012. Can't help ya man. Go back to school if you must.your pal, Fred |
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