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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:06:59 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 20:59:28 2012. I'm just making an assumption here but perhaps its because the victory would be more expensive to pursue than the damages awarded might be. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:07:21 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:03:38 2012. I did, just the other night, whjen I was live. You missed it. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:07:41 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 20:59:28 2012. I know you supported it with articles and links and that was the worst part. You completely misunderstood the information that you linked and additionally obviously confused Warren and Lively in the video who to this day remain two completely different people!As to why he didn't sue you, other than that he likely has no idea who you are, I don't think that he's that type of person. I don't know what was said on WBAI, but what was posted here was both incorrect and libelous, which could be quickly determined by anyone reading the links that you provided. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:08:42 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:07:21 2012. I saw it, but decided not to listen. Then later I was going to, but you were already done. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:09:02 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:07:21 2012. Ok. Sorry I missed it.I love radio and try to listen to all arguments. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:09:57 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:06:45 2012. Why didn't you call for a boycott of president obama. It would seem that his opposition to gay marriage was more significant that that of a corporate CEO. Also, why are you not suspicious of obama's 180 degree position change, virtually over night. Do you really believe that he's changed his views or is it more likely that he changed his public position for political reasons? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:11:08 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:07:41 2012. The Executive Director of IGLHRC and Rachel Maddow both cited Warren by name. The Maddow piece is called Uganda Be Kidding Me!, and the IGLHRC remarks were made in public, during a rally in front of the United Nations. I posted both videos here.Were Maddow and IGLHRC also being "libelous"? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:11:09 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:06:45 2012. However, Obama did say to me that the ongoing debate in the state Senate was "democracy at work".As a Californian used to propositions where I get to vote on critical issues, I find it sad that your legislature would take such an important choice from the hands of the people and decide it for them. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:12:17 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:06:59 2012. I seriously doubt that, especially since WBAI could have stopped me at any time during the recording. They didn't, nor did they edit the show. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:15:00 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:11:09 2012. The Legislature didn't "take" anything from the people. A bill was introduced and voted on, which is exactly what legislatures are supposed to do.If the Civil Rights Act of 1964 had been put to a popular vote, Jim Crow laws in the South might still be in effect today. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:16:23 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:15:00 2012. isn't banning blacks from schools and restaurants a little different than defining marriage? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:16:33 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:12:17 2012. And the news department at BAI has always been very heaby-handed in what they would allow on the air. Especially back in the Millspaugh/Coffey days. The "three credibles that we spoke to to confirm your story" ruled the day. I hear it hasn't changed much since. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:17:30 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:09:57 2012. Obama never publicly said he was "against" gay marriage. During the 2008 campaign, he said his position on the issue was "evolving". He never actively advocated or supported anti-gay laws or organizations, nor did he fund anti-gay groups, as Dan Cathy has admitted to doing, to the tune onf seven figures. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:18:52 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:16:33 2012. "heaby-handed?" that sounds bigoted :) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:19:47 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:16:33 2012. Not one bit. WBAI had two days to edit my remarks if they felt them to be slanderous. The station does have its own sharks, er, attorneys checking this stuff for them. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:19:56 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:18:52 2012. LOL!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:20:38 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:18:52 2012. Look at the key to the right of the "v" key. Whoops. Can't accuse me of being leftist there, yo ... :) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:20:46 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:16:23 2012. No. Both are examples of Americans denying rights to other Americans. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:21:38 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:19:47 2012. Church of Scientology has always been fastidious about their FCC licenses. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:22:05 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:19:47 2012. Not one bit. WBAI had two days to edit my remarks if they felt them to be slanderous. The station does have its own sharks, er, attorneys checking this stuff for theEven if they did, I think it's your side, the liberals, who are more likely to go after people than conservatives are. I don't think conservative groups even monitor the show you're on. But ever conservative radio station is monitored. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:22:14 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:11:08 2012. No, they were not. You were misquoting and misunderstanding them by conflating various statements that they made. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 5 21:22:59 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:20:46 2012. how do you feel about gender segregated health clubs? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:23:31 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:17:30 2012. Obama supports Civil Union in 2004 |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:24:10 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:15:00 2012. It's too bad that NY doesn't have a proposition system. It can be a PITA, but it's much more so democracy at work. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:24:26 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:22:14 2012. In YOUR interpretation. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:25:18 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:24:10 2012. Referenda can be placed on the ballot in New York. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:25:29 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:18:52 2012. I thought that you had a sticky keyboard too |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:26:10 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:16:33 2012. I don't know what was said on the show, but I do know for an absolute fact that JayZee was wrong in what he posted about Rick Warren here, so I expect that he was similarly wrong and confused on WBAI. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:26:27 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:23:31 2012. In 2004, only two states had even considered gay marriage, and things were VERY different then. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:26:44 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:24:26 2012. No, it's a fact. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:29:40 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:26:10 2012. Please post a link, from an unbiased source, that irrefutably contradicts Maddow, the IGLHRC, and me. Can you PROVE that Rick Warren never engaged with a group known as "The Family", to support anti-gay efforts in Uganda? Can you PROVE Scott Lively wasn't warren's man on the ground in that country? Can you PROVE Warren didn't try to be VERY slippery about all of this when he was confronted about it five years ago? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:31:23 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 5 21:25:29 2012. Dewpoint is 75 here right now. EVERYTHING sticky. :)But no, got the lights turned down because there's a neat light show outside. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:32:45 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:24:10 2012. I dunno ... given how Prop 13 and many others since have completely screwed up California, I think we're a bit better off here with sausage-crafting by graft. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:34:20 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:26:10 2012. I have no idea of what he said on BAI, but rest assured that they checked every word before letting it air. As to the Chicago station, they were too busy talking amongst themselves to bother listening to any of the callers ... much like too many talk shows. :( |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 5 21:34:56 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:32:45 2012. prop 13 really screwed things up here |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Aug 5 21:37:20 2012, in response to Re: SUBWAYSURF-fil-a, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Aug 4 08:44:36 2012. Excellent post. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Aug 5 21:38:40 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 19:24:35 2012. LOL!This is rich... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:40:38 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:26:44 2012. You keep accusing me of "misinterpreting" and "libeling" Warren. Yet, you haven't yet posted PROOF that what you claim is actual fact.Here is Rachel Maddow exposing Warren as a LIAR on Prop 8 issues. There's also quite a bit his travels to Uganda, and what he said there, and how influential Warren is in Ugandan affairs. He eventually flipped on the Kill The Gays law, but not before saying the "media has mischaracterized him" on these issues. Maddow calls him out on his bullshit. : |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:40:41 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 5 21:34:56 2012. FOX News certainly demonstrates why letting the people make their own sausage isn't the brightest idea in the world. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:44:29 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:32:45 2012. Let the people decide. That's democracy. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:47:08 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:44:29 2012. Whenever the rights of a minority are put to a popular vote, the minority will lose. That's why we have a legislative branch to begin with. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:47:58 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:44:29 2012. Yes, but our founders chose a republic form of government because democracy can breed lemmings. No offense, but the smart people should handle the rule-making. Proof of the pudding is the idiots that the people have been electing lately because the smart people want no part of this circus. :( |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:53:40 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:40:38 2012. Where's the original thread where we had this discussion? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:54:20 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:47:08 2012. Huh? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:57:18 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 21:47:58 2012. What an elitist sentiment. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:58:22 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:54:20 2012. People's rights, especially concerning those of minorities, should NEVER be put to a popular vote. How would you like it if your |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Aug 5 21:59:18 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:54:20 2012. which is why black men EVERYWHERE need to throw away their machismo and support gay rights |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 22:00:33 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 21:58:22 2012. Did you have a stroke? ;) |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 5 22:02:43 2012, in response to Re: Perverts vandalize Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:53:40 2012. Why do you need the "original thread"? The same Maddow video I just posted, is in that discussion, too, IIRC.You asserted that Warren "never went to Uganda". The Maddow video shows he did. You asserted Warren never encouraged the anti-gay politics of that country. The Maddow video shows he did. Warren didn't change his bullshit statements on Uganda until he got caught. Plus, Warren is shown making baldfaced LIES about his position on Proposition 8, in living color. A strange thing for an internationally-famous evangelist to do, no? Have you even LOOKED at the video? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 22:02:50 2012, in response to Re: Perverts Choke The Chick-fil-a, posted by Easy on Sun Aug 5 21:57:18 2012. Indeed! :)But seriously ... Romney's the brightest star they could muster after Bachmann, Palin and Newt? Heh. Yep ... we're real leet out here in farmland. (grin) |
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