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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:04:45 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 19:48:01 2012.

True that. Plus, most people here know GE, but they cannot conceive of what a truly gigantic business it is, until they've gone on the tour. The company's publicity is accurate--the average American, at any given time, is usually within a few feet of some item manufactured by GE. The literature they gave me for my trip home was jaw-dropping. I had no idea GE was into some of the things they are.

BTW, their diversity program is one of the best in the world. It speaks to how they are able to pump out so many, many products of every description, year in and year out...the company is a monster!

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:06:16 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:04:07 2012.

The pro-gay groups I support aren't trying to limit or end the rights of other Americans. There is a difference.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:07:28 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:06:16 2012.

Hes does have a point Steve i see nothing wrong with that.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:11:21 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:04:45 2012.

Yep ... and an even bigger procession of contractors supplying them ...

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:17:17 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 19:41:57 2012.

And many businesses are funding groups and lobbyists who support gay marriage. My objection is not to the dialog. Its to the attempt to disrupt the business because you disagree with the message.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:22:05 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:07:28 2012.

I have no problem with support of either POV. I object to trying to disrupt the business because that's where the money comes from that supports one side of the fence. Should Anti-gay marriage groups be free to jam up bars and restaurants who cater to a predominantly gay clientele so they can't contribute to pro-gay causes? Remember the old saying, "Your free speech ends at the tip of the other person's nose."

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:23:03 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:17:17 2012.



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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:23:28 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:22:05 2012.

Should Anti-gay marriage groups be free to jam up bars and restaurants who cater to a predominantly gay clientele so they can't contribute to pro-gay causes?

If they so Choose it is after all its a free country even though the ramifications i feel will be just like this one is...

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:26:57 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:22:05 2012.

BTW there are somethings you need to check out when you have the chance you know where..

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:27:23 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:23:03 2012.

I don't understand your point. I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but I need it translated to English.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 20:27:34 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:03:00 2012.

MY quote, "YOu RWers are acting as if ", states that who said CFA "is great"?

Those who ACT are engaging in a display of fantasy and feigned emotion.

The entire discussion is about a boycott of a corporation that is directly funding hate groups. That makes questioning your intention towards GE completely logical and within the scope of the conversation.

You obviously are incapable of conducting a conversation, which is evidenced by your post and consistent trolling every visit without any substantiative contribution to any conversation.

You don't get thing one. It's also "You're" or "You are" as one cannot own a "fumfer". It's a verb, moron.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:28:29 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:23:28 2012.

It's not a free country to wage economic war like that. If you don't like the place, you don't patronize it. You don't disrupt it.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:28:50 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:26:57 2012.

Ah thanks for the heads up.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:30:21 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:27:23 2012.

Not a peep when the shoe was on the other foot over these:


You know ... that OTHER boycott?

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:32:35 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:28:29 2012.

Yet you said "whats stopping folks".. I took it as nothings stopping them....

Nothings wrong with voicing your dislike for them on various places either weather we agree with it or not..

That Whole Oreo thing Blew Up my Wall for a few days...

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:32:44 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 20:27:34 2012.

Well if I'm a moron, for a type-O then I guess everyone else is a moron because we've all made them and to borrow one of your favorite retorts, I don't really care. As for the rest of your post, you're back peddling again. Do it on a bike with a funny wig and a bright red nose and I might be impressed, sweet cheeks.

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 2 20:34:07 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 19:57:04 2012.

See subject. Those were the real bad guys and we supported their Constitutional rights so we can do it here too. I'll explain.

The head fil-a can say what he wants and he can contribute to whomever he wants; it's his right. So can you and so can others who fund gay organizations. You have the right to protest his statements and actions as well, which you have.

You have to put yourself in these anti-gay people's shoes. There's this gay marriage whirlwind coming at them and it's really fast and they don't know what to do other than dig in and fight it. At some point they'll become irrelevant and we'll wonder what the noise was about.

I still think the idea of just going to CFA on family nights is best. Just buy a small drink and sit there and have fun and slowly things will get better. And you'll drive Candy nuts knowing Family Night is part gay.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:34:31 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:30:21 2012.

That's right. I didn't advocate boycotting Oreos nor did I say we should picket the stores that sell them even is I disagreed with the message. I think you are making the wrong point, again. You just proved my POV.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:35:42 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:32:35 2012.

Yet no one advocated blocking Pathmark because they sell Oreos, did they?

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:37:49 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 2 20:34:07 2012.

"See subject. Those were the real bad guys and we supported their Constitutional rights so we can do it here too. I'll explain.

The head fil-a can say what he wants and he can contribute to whomever he wants; it's his right. So can you and so can others who fund gay organizations. You have the right to protest his statements and actions as well, which you have.

You have to put yourself in these anti-gay people's shoes. There's this gay marriage whirlwind coming at them and it's really fast and they don't know what to do other than dig in and fight it. At some point they'll become irrelevant and we'll wonder what the noise was about."


Exactly

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:38:03 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:35:42 2012.

I didnt have time to go through ALL the thousand or so (some of them very hateful) Comments though but perhaps not..

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:38:26 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 2 20:34:07 2012.

Great Post Fred..

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 20:47:12 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:22:05 2012.

LOL! A boycott is SUPPOSED to disrupt business. The whole idea of this boycott is to force losses so the corporation will be unable to contribute to hate groups.

Anti-marriage equality groups are free to boycott establishments that cater to gays. However, I doubt bar owners are contributing big $$$ to hate groups.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:50:49 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 20:47:12 2012.

You can BoyCott a place without even going near it, just spread the word to the community and folks wont go there.

It worked out great in my old neighborhoods..

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:52:15 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 2 20:34:07 2012.

What the Nazis were doing in Skokie and what CFA is supporting are two very different things. GFA is finding groups that are trying to keep gays and lesbians from achieving full equality as Americans--and these groups fund the campaigns of legislators who enact laws to keep us from enjoying the same rights as everybody else.

Now, these anti-gay people are facing a "whirlwind"--social change--which is what progressive societies do when they evolve. Forty years ago, it was interracial marriage, today, it's us gays. I think GLAAD's "kiss-in" is a lighthearted, nonviolent way to call attention to OUR side of the issue--and, BTW, it was planned and announced BEFORE Huckabee's little stunt yesterday. It will disrupt mo one else from patronizing CFA, except, perhaps, those who think only straight people are entitled to kiss in public. Of course, that includes people like LuchAAA, who see this as an act of terrorism.

Ironically, I won't be doing the kiss-in tomorrow at NYU's CFA. I've got too much on my (literal) plate as it is...including the annual NYC Black LGBT Pride Week events later this month, which I help plan and operate. :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:54:17 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 20:47:12 2012.

Thank you for proving my point. You certainly are not the sharpest tool in the shed, sweet checks. I disagree with boycotts over a free speech issue. You seem not to get that.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:57:44 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:50:49 2012.

Indeed ... I guess this is how we're going to fix the economy. :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:58:46 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:57:44 2012.

Hey if it works for some...

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:59:19 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 20:57:44 2012.

Changing the subject? Or maybe this Chick-fil-A thing is really a RW plot against obama.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:00:07 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:59:19 2012.

Well we KNOW that. And you're welcome. :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:00:38 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 20:58:46 2012.

Gotta love that "adult discussion." (grin)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 21:09:05 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:00:38 2012.

Hey it beats the usual..

LOL..

Nope..

Wrong..

Pwnd...

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:11:28 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by Fred G on Thu Aug 2 20:34:07 2012.

I agree, Fred, the Cathys have the right to say what they wish and contribute to their chosen causes. As individuals. With their own personal money.

However, these contributions to hate groups are being made by the *corporation*, not an individual. That is why there's a boycott going on.

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:13:40 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:11:28 2012.

"That is why there's a very unsuccessful boycott going on."


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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:14:45 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 20:54:17 2012.

I agree with boycotts when the corporation targeted (and they were the target of one a year or so ago for the same reason) makes contributions to hate groups AS a corporation.

It's not a free speech issue. That's what the RW is selling it as.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:15:45 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 21:09:05 2012.

False! :)

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:16:10 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:13:40 2012.

Boycotts take time. We'll see once the hype dies and the real deal sets in. It took target months to see they were losing money. This won't be different.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:17:17 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:15:45 2012.

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=967653

Bump! :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 21:21:57 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:17:17 2012.

Oh forgot those two..

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:23:28 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 21:21:57 2012.

Like I've said ... this is my favorite channel. Glad I don't watch it on the BIG screen. :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 21:26:02 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:23:28 2012.

About to join a discussion, live, on WVON in Chicago on CFA.

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:30:32 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:16:10 2012.

What difference does it make? Didn't you say that you really don't care?

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:31:15 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 2 21:14:45 2012.

That's what makes you the moron in the group, sweet cheeks.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:37:52 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 21:26:02 2012.

I'm Frazier Crane ... I'm listening. :)

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 2 21:38:46 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 19:58:28 2012.

Gender.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Aug 2 21:41:04 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 18:23:40 2012.

Free Speech is prohibitive against government officials who try to suppress it. Those mayors are acting badly.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 2 21:43:22 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 2 21:37:52 2012.

Very Interesting radio i might add..

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:45:33 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Aug 2 21:41:04 2012.

Without a doubt. That's not to mention that they are keeping jobs from being created in their cities. Ah but who cares about jobs anyway.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Aug 2 21:50:27 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 2 21:45:33 2012.

Actually, as has been pointed out, Chick-fil-A's tend to be located in the South where there is more acceptance of Cathy's views. The chicken served in those cities would tend to be KFC or Boston Market.

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Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 2 21:51:35 2012, in response to Re: If We can accept free speech at Skokie, you can accept it from C-Fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Aug 2 20:52:15 2012.

They should do the kiss-in on Sunday. Much larger crowds.

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