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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:02:26 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 13:42:37 2012.

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I've seen Twitter reports that many of the locations in Jersey are swamped (Menlo Park, Paramus, Woodbridge, Cherry Hill) and that in Indianapolis the police are now deployed to manage the lines and traffic at all their local locations. One establishment in TN actually ran out of chicken, potatoes and buns.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:02:59 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:55:40 2012.

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Of course they do. I am talking about politicians that feel it's right to try and ban them from opening, or interfere, as well as those that support such politicians that do so.
The key is that, the PUBLIC should decide, not the government. This whole crap started from asshole politicians putting their nose where it doesn't belong.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:03:45 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 13:45:12 2012.

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What hate groups? The KKK?

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:05:07 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:55:40 2012.

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You're right. What governments don't have a right to do is to discriminate against them simply because they hold a position on a controversial issue.

Your level of disgust at such position is irrelevant.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:05:38 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:54:11 2012.

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....apparently they are doing great for their stockholders....
http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=966850

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:12:39 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 13:54:29 2012.

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What political stuff do you think we DO want to hear from you? Why are you warning us? Don't you think we're already aware of what we don't want to hear from you???

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:13:47 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 12:37:22 2012.

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Why can't politicians come out in support of denying chickfila permits to build? They are expressing the desires of their constituents. It's free speech, it's their right. Don't like what they have to say? Don't re-elect them.

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Re: LOL: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:14:10 2012, in response to LOL: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 13:23:17 2012.

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Drive through in Warrington, PA (about 2 miles north of Warminster):

http://yfrog.com/h0lj9eklj

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:14:16 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 13:44:01 2012.

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But what you do with that orientation IS. Again.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:15:02 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:54:11 2012.

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Lol!!!!!

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:15:30 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:55:40 2012.

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Wrong.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:17:03 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:13:47 2012.

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Because you can't deny permits for those reasons. I can't believe you don't understand this.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:18:26 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:14:16 2012.

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"What you do with [your] sexual orientation" is a "choice" only insofar as one's decision to be in or out of the closet. Again. Even if you "choose" to be celibate, it doesn't change an atom or a tittle of your actual sexual orientation.



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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:18:38 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 12:38:17 2012.

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Hate groups are hate groups. THIW.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:20:13 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:12:39 2012.

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No, I'm saying there are things going on with the Trayvon case that people like Chris don't want to hear. Are you experiencing difficulty comprehending the written word again?

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:21:07 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:18:26 2012.

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Like I just said, it is a choice what to do with your orientation. No one reasonable is faulting people for being gay. They disapprove of them acting on it.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:21:33 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 12:46:16 2012.

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The people elected these politicians. If they don't like their policy positions, they can elect others. I don't hear much outcry from Boston or Chicago. Just from those OUTSIDE Boston & Chicago.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:24:43 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:05:38 2012.

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http://twitchy.com/2012/08/01/boycott-fail-redux-citizens-santa-unite-for-chick-fil-a-appreciation-day-photos-show-huge-success/



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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:25:16 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:20:13 2012.

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Incorrect. Chris notwithstanding, normal decent people do not wish to close their ears to information that could help inform them of the facts and help them form educated opinions. So you are wrong. If you have new facts, then many of us would. It be adverse to hearing them. What we don't care for are your opinions, which in many cases are seriously f***ed up. You have a right to have them, but we'd prefer if you didn't share them. And if you still do, we can just choose not to read them, or we can tear them apart based on all their factual and logical inaccuracies.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:25:42 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:54:11 2012.

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I know what you need.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:25:53 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 13:15:03 2012.

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Where did you imagine that?

The issue is that the CEO's kid is using corporate profits to fund hate groups. For this, they should be boycotted. Their board should also vote the kid off. If the wants to spread hate, let him use his own money. Chick fil a should fix their governance issues.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:26:25 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:20:13 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again, you are projecting. All the stuff that's come out since the Trayvon thing went national has supported Zimmerman. You were warned in March not to dig in on a position until the facts came out. You ignored this advice.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:26:32 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:17:03 2012.

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Bump for fact.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:28:46 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Aug 1 13:01:52 2012.

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When you, me, the ACLU and the NYT all agree on an issue, it means those who don't should really re-consider their position.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:29:01 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:20:13 2012.

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What, your spinning of the facts to what you want it to be? We already know what your warped and twisted version of events are.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:29:40 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:26:25 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Correct.

I remember JayZeeBMT had Zimmerman as a 250 pounder with no cuts on his head or visible injuries, mumbling "c**n" on 911. That all has changed.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:29:57 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 13:44:01 2012.

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Maybe. Or maybe not. It doesn't matter. Religion is a choice and is a constitutionally protected right.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Aug 1 14:33:05 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:28:46 2012.

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Exactly - - what part of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights does the bigoted left not understand?

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 1 14:33:40 2012, in response to We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 00:37:49 2012.

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They can say and support whoever they wish...just as I don't have to support them.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:35:09 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 1 14:33:40 2012.

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A Dan Lawrence post for sure.

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Re: LOL: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Aug 1 14:35:22 2012, in response to Re: LOL: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:14:10 2012.

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That's a real show of support for First Amendment rights.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:36:55 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:29:40 2012.

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Someone his age should have remembered Tawana Brawley. Digging in on a position cost Sharpton $$$, Maddox and Mason their careers.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:38:23 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:36:55 2012.

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That Tawana thing was a laughing stock. I remember it too. it was first experience with activists as a teenager when they were jumping in front of rush hour trains, etc in "days of outrage"....I have hated them ever since.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 1 14:40:50 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 11:58:31 2012.

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That the beauty of living in THIS COUNTRY..

We can disagree with the POPULAR opinions,disagree with ANY opinion..and ITS OKAY!

The owner of CHICK-FIL-A PERSONAL OPINION is what it is..PLUS it IS an excellent marketing device getting the name of his establishment out there POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE.People are still going to eat there regardless of how much GAY folks and supporters protest boycott..whatever.

Regardless How You may feel about it..there are MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE who still cling to traditional values..and WILL NOT BE SWAYED NO MATTER HOW LOUD YOU SCREAM "IT'S WRONG"...
You will NOT change their minds..not sway them..not anything..

It is what it is.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:42:12 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 1 14:40:50 2012.

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I agree.
To me, also, the more they push this whole thing, the more it turns me AWAY from the cause, not to it.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:43:53 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by TERRapin station on Wed Aug 1 14:21:07 2012.

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So, in other words, it's OK for companies like Chick-Fil-A to express their "disapproval" of gays "acting on" their orientation, by funding groups that deny us the right to love who we love?

"Acting on" our sexual orientation is a core component of who we are as human beings, whether gay OR straight. It's fundamentally wrong, (and philosophically irrational) for the LGBT community to meekly sit back and allow others to impose their "disapproval" of our lives on us, through organized sociopolitical force.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 1 14:45:07 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:02:59 2012.

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agreed..
Personal freedoms are at stake.



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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:45:08 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 1 13:28:14 2012.

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The USSR is no longer. They've been discredited.

I know of no anti-straight people. This isn't a choice issue. A pluralistic secular society, such as the United States was established to be, cannot legislate religious dogma. That is the overriding issue. Freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion. Freedom of speech does not include inciting violence against any citizen.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Easy on Wed Aug 1 14:47:37 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 13:45:12 2012.

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What are they? I saw a list of family groups that they gave money to and only one of them was on the SPLC list.

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Aug 1 14:48:19 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 13:55:40 2012.

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I have to disagree with you here..

The public has the right to decide if they are going to patronize..true..but the politicians have no right interfering,or making public comments on this.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 1 14:52:36 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Aug 1 13:01:52 2012.

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There's nothing wrong exercising your rights to tell someone exercising their rights that you disagree with them.

There's nothing wrong with not patronizing an establishment that doesn't support your cause.

There's nothing wrong with an establishment refusing your patronage.

There IS something wrong with a governmental establishment refusing permits to groups they don't like.

That's the whole point of the First Amendment. Free speech, free religion, free association.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:52:46 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:43:53 2012.

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So, in other words, it's OK for companies like Chick-Fil-A to express their "disapproval" of gays "acting on" their orientation, by funding groups that deny us the right to love who we love?

People "fund" groups that are for your views yet against their's, so what's the difference?
And how come you still ignored the post asked for proof of your assertion that claims the company "provided millions upon millions" of dollars to "groups that are against your positions?

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:53:15 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 14:36:55 2012.

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It's all part of the War On Whitemen.



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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:54:32 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by bingbong on Wed Aug 1 14:45:08 2012.

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Who is inciting violence? it's the extremists on the left "inciting violence", as usual.

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 1 14:57:56 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 1 09:41:19 2012.

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What are you doing in California?

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Aug 1 14:58:54 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Fred G on Wed Aug 1 14:57:56 2012.

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If I could be in California right now, I probably would be too.....

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 1 15:00:02 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Wed Aug 1 14:52:36 2012.

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+1

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Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Aug 1 15:00:15 2012, in response to Re: We're All Human Beings Today. Please Boycott Chick-fil-A, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 14:53:15 2012.

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Only white losers use terms like "War on Whitemen".



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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 15:01:15 2012, in response to We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Aug 1 00:37:49 2012.

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Great Turnout in Tampa

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Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Aug 1 15:01:31 2012, in response to Re: We're All Baptists Today. Please Support Chick-fil-A, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Aug 1 14:43:53 2012.

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So, in other words, it's OK for companies like Chick-Fil-A to express their "disapproval" of gays "acting on" their orientation, by funding groups that deny us the right to love who we love?

Correct. And there is a difference between suppressing the rights of those who fund those groups to free speech and encouraging people to support your cause over those others.

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