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Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 14:24:31 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 17 14:10:25 2012. Back then they interpreted everything bad as "God disapproving", as they didn't understand science. When bad things happened, "God was punishing", etc.Unfortunately, people today still believe all this. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 17 14:10:25 2012. I think with Sodomy you have to look at another issue in the context of the time.There weren't a whole lot of people in the world, and you didn't have all that many people in your tribal group. Look at how many of the mitzvot are aimed at family ties, and healthy families (e.g., the prohibition on sex with close relatives). In the modern world we can't conceive of not having enough of a human population. In 1860 the entire population of the South was not much more than modern New York City, and in Biblical times there weren't that many people period. People who didn't procreate were considered quite useless in terms of family and therefore building up society. Much of the Bible is a very practical document, often obscured by endless interpretation. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012, in response to Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 09:22:13 2012. Why exactly are you posting these? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:28:30 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 10:37:46 2012. "Cats are not my type. Big time. "Why? are you afraid of a big pussy? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:28:47 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012. Why do you THINK I'm posting them? |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:29:36 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:28:30 2012. If it comes equipped with pointy teeth and claws, yes. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:31:13 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 14:24:31 2012. Do you think all the supposedly secular things people argue about are really based on science? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:31:55 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012. He's fucking bored..... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:32:42 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:28:47 2012. "Why do you THINK I'm posting them? "For Zimmerman's sake? or Sandusky? which? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:35:32 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 17 13:00:23 2012. "Stop with the act. NOBODY can be as retarded as you pretend to be. "IAWTP >>>>> he's running neck and neck with Luchie on that one :) |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:37:53 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:29:36 2012. "If it comes equipped with pointy teeth and claws, yes. "Then you haven't got a chance in Hell with women then. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:42:50 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:37:53 2012. Heh. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:43:42 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:32:42 2012. To collect divers opinions, such as yours. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:44:26 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:31:55 2012. Would that make me different from other posters here? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 17 14:51:54 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012. Good point. Add to that the horrific infant mortality rate at the time.It took 25,000 years for the worldwide human population to reach 1 billion. It's only taken a little more than 200 years since then for it to reach 6 billion. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 15:17:54 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:31:13 2012. I didn't say I was irreligious, I am just saying that the Bible was written as I stated. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 15:26:58 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:29:36 2012. Hey, the teeth and the claws are half the fun!!!!! |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Jul 17 16:23:40 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:43:42 2012. Nice to know you have a hobby collecting something. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 17 16:29:52 2012, in response to Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 09:22:13 2012. Maybe you should start studying the Talmud, which interprets the Torah instead of taking it at literal face value. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:06:49 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 17 16:29:52 2012. . . . so does the Catholic Catechism. Maybe the interpretations are the problem? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:09:53 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 09:49:40 2012. That's not what the Torah says at all. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:10:27 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 17 10:06:33 2012. Wrong again. Read the passage in question. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:10:39 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 09:40:02 2012. Man, that's a colossal misinterpretation on their part. That only refers to animals to be sacrificed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:13:43 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 12:09:25 2012. If you're not sure about the meaning of words, look here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:14:29 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 12:14:15 2012. That's not what the Bible says. You can definitely spay/neuter either sex of cat or dog. You can't offer them as a sacrifice at the temple, though . . . |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:15:16 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Dave on Tue Jul 17 13:03:41 2012. You didn't see the verses quoted? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:15:53 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Jul 17 14:37:53 2012. What would you know about women? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:17:41 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 17 12:38:28 2012. You libertarian, you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 17 20:06:19 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 19:09:53 2012. LOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 20:19:10 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 14:24:31 2012. So you believe that global warming is real? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 20:19:42 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 17 14:10:25 2012. It was well known by biblical times that close relatives mating would produced deformed children. I am sure they interpreted this as God disapprovingSo incest is best? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 20:20:37 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 14:27:02 2012. It's a bit beyond that. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 18 08:36:12 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 17 14:24:31 2012. Back then they interpreted everything bad as "God disapproving", as they didn't understand science. When bad things happened, "God was punishing", etc.Unfortunately, people today still believe all this. No, a lot of Jewish law is explicitly the opposite of what pagan nations were doing (like shaving). There are also numerous laws that don't have a logical explanation. |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Wed Jul 18 09:10:24 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 18 08:36:12 2012. +1 |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 24 13:07:19 2012, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 17 20:19:42 2012. As a long time friend says "incest is a game the whole family can play". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 28 21:39:55 2025, in response to Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 17 09:22:13 2012. The rapist must marry the maiden (if she chooses)—Deuteronomy 22:29That is not what that verse says, particularly in context. When you look at verse 28, it refers to a man and an unbetrothed woman who get busted having consensual sex. If you want to see what happens to rapists, look at verse 25. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Apr 28 22:25:14 2025, in response to Re: Who you CAN have sex with; Who you CAN'T have sex with; Who you MUST have sex with??, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 28 21:39:55 2025. The rapist doesn't win and lost in 5 sentences apart.There was always something that sticks with me about this verse. A guy finds a virgin, convinces her to roll around in the hay, probably tricking her, gets busted, he doesn't get to go on his way making a rap video about it. He bought the goods and he has to pay the father. It is all very un-american and the supreme court would not be happy with any of this. Nor would any loser at Harvard. |
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