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Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 01:41:50 2012

Only 80,000 new jobs created.
Unemployment is holding steady at 8.2%
Stocks down sharply on the news.
And o'bummer doesn't understand.
The private sector is not doing fine.



Is bing-bong writing the bullshit that he's reading? This president has not got a clue.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 01:54:53 2012, in response to Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 01:41:50 2012.

I read on another forum that Obama may be the first US President in history to leave office with fewer jobs existing than when he started.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 01:56:34 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 01:54:53 2012.

That's true. Sadly we'll never see another black President.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 01:56:41 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 01:54:53 2012.

After four or eight years?

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 02:05:50 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 01:56:34 2012.

You're all worked up.

I explained it to you all years ago.

Obama gives blacks a turn in the White House. In 2016 Dems will have to have another black man or a female or Hispanic as the candidate. They can never run a white male again.

Merit no longer matters. "Whose turn it is" is all that matters.

Skin color should not matter yet it's "sad" to you.

Honestly, I think it will decades before we have another white male president. THIW.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 02:13:52 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 02:05:50 2012.

I dunno about that. Could happen, could not. People ever hear me talk on TV and I'm in.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 02:21:22 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 02:13:52 2012.

Not sure why you think we won't have another black president. Obama is not even 100% black. He's half white and not African-American.

A white man will not be President for a long time. Maybe never again.



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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 02:26:42 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 02:21:22 2012.

He's half white and not African-American.

Barack Hussein Obama II is the very definition and precise personification of an African-American.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 02:27:25 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 01:54:53 2012.

There were less jobs at the end of Dumbya first term than when he started.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 02:46:59 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 01:56:34 2012.

I don't know how you could come to that conclusion. By the same token (no pun intended)Considering that the president is 1/2 white, we could also say that we may never see a white president again.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 03:00:02 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 02:27:25 2012.

"There were less jobs at the end of Dumbya first term than when he started. "

Well I guess everything is okay then. We can all rest easy. Is that what you are saying?

By the way - what were the numbers like at the end of GWBs 2nd term?

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:24:20 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 02:27:25 2012.

There were less jobs in Massachusetts when Romney left as Governor than when he started. And he made everyone buy health insurance.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 03:30:14 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 03:00:02 2012.

The Obama element could care less about the jobs report. His voters will be out in full force to make sure America has no chance of recovery.

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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:33:11 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 03:30:14 2012.

I don't think you think twice before you post when I see stuff like this.

your pal,
Fred

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 03:45:16 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:33:11 2012.

You don't know all elements of the Democrat voting base.

You're the elitist segment of the base. There are other issues driving the element to vote for Democrats.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:47:00 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 03:45:16 2012.

I'm about as elite as a ham sandwich but ok.

Are you counting the "anyone but Republican" segment? That's kinda big I think.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 04:44:53 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 03:00:02 2012.

By the way - what were the numbers like at the end of GWBs 2nd term?

800,000 jobs being lost every month.

Then finally Change came to America.

God Bless Barack Obama.



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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 04:56:12 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 04:44:53 2012.

Those job loses at the end of 2008 were the reaction to the Obama presidency. Businesses reacted to his victory. The job market has not recovered and when Obama wins again, he'll spend billions more promising jobs(like he did last time) that will never materialize. 8% or higher unemployment is here to stay.

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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 05:09:54 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 04:56:12 2012.

LOL, the job losses were due to money being tight during the last quarter of 2008, not because Obama was elected. In fact it was Obama looking presidential during September of 2008 (and McCain not) that moved voters toward him.

your pal,
Fred

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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 05:14:12 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 05:09:54 2012.

LOL @ "looking Presidential". When businesses realized he was going to win, cutting jobs was the reaction.

He'll win again, promise jobs by spending billions upon billions(saying he didn't spend enough the first time) and he'll leave office in 2016 with 9% unemployment.



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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 05:14:22 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 05:09:54 2012.

Republican media proves over and over again what a genius Hermann Goering was. :(

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 05:40:39 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 04:56:12 2012.

The started reacting to the Obama Presidency in late 2007?

Why was there an immediate turnaround within a couple of months of his taking office?



Barack Obama is the best thing to have happened to America and the world in 70 years.



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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 06:05:03 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 05:14:22 2012.

Ain't no bullshit there.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 06:06:32 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 05:14:12 2012.

LOL @ you thinking business works that way.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:40:28 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 05:14:12 2012.

He'll win again and the private sector and Congress will have t deal with it. Hopefully we'll get a Democratic Congress again. People should be fed up with how every jobs bill has been obstructed by the republicans while bridges get closed and roads crumble.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:42:19 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SMAZ on Sat Jul 7 05:40:39 2012.

EXcellent question, answer from th eRW appears to be crickets.

They talk about their "job creators" (dogwhistle for the idle rich), why aren't they creating jobs?

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:47:37 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 03:00:02 2012.

IIRC, dismal. See SMAZ's chart. The bushcrash of the global economy was taking hold like a metastasizing cancer.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:54:27 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:47:00 2012.

...and growing as people see what they came up with.....





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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 10:27:31 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 7 04:56:12 2012.

Wrong. They were the reaction to the bushcrash. Demand shriveled up, inventories sat. No need for employees until demand increases. That's why stimuluses are done. They provide jobs which serve to create demand. Once there's demand, the private sector (which won't hire unless they are beyond the need for more people) can provide for same. That's how GM came back.

Fact is, bush left the economy in worse shape than anyone is willing to admit. Had it not been for food programs and unemployment, we'd be looking at crisp new pictures of millions waiting on breadlines again.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 7 13:38:02 2012, in response to Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 01:41:50 2012.

80,000 is good.
You see, it's like a university, you have to lower the bar of expectations. Bush, a white president, had to have over a quarter million jobs. Naturally 80k would be positive.

But I now see how the numbers get revised. The quarter ended. Some probably wait a week to file their unemployment. Watch this

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 14:01:17 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 7 13:38:02 2012.

Yeah, but the point is that even though it's 80,000, those are MORE jobs than they were. The other guy had all those numbers swinging the OTHER way ... which isn't actually good. :)

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 17:58:11 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:47:37 2012.

Go take two doughnuts and lie down. You are out of control.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 18:04:42 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:42:19 2012.

What about the 5.1 million who have been out of work for two years or more? I know, you got your medical coverage so the fuck with everyone else!

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 7 18:06:20 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 09:42:19 2012.

iawtp

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 18:09:38 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 18:04:42 2012.

Romney got those folks a job in China ...

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 18:10:25 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 18:09:38 2012.

That's more than o'bummer did.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 18:13:58 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 18:10:25 2012.

Heh. Yep ... all they gotta do is learn Chinese and walk over there and they're all set.

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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 18:46:11 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 17:58:11 2012.

LOL....yeah, like you're able to control yourself.....Swagger is nothing, talent is everything. It's clear which you haven't got.



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Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 18:48:11 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 18:09:38 2012.

Willard doesn't know anything about china.....he thinks it's a woman's thing..... he'll let Anne choose the pattern.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 7 19:04:34 2012, in response to Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 01:41:50 2012.

at least he created jobs, not like previous administaration whoes Job numbers went down down down down down

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 19:38:54 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 18:04:42 2012.

Ask your republican buddy "job creators". After all they keep talking about them like they're going to, though they haven't, created any jobs.

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Posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 19:58:55 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 18:13:58 2012.

Or they could learn Spanish and get a job here in the US! :)

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 7 20:02:47 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Easy on Sat Jul 7 19:58:55 2012.

And even that's drying up.

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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 22:42:47 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 19:38:54 2012.

You ask the half wit that YOU elected. His policies are not working but what the heck. You got yours. Fuck everyone else now.

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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 22:44:41 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 7 18:46:11 2012.

I'll swagger while you stagger. The only talent you seem to have is lying.

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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 22:46:54 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Jul 7 19:04:34 2012.

More people filed for disability last month than got jobs. The policies of this president are a failure. Even if it were true that the previous administration failed (which it isn't) how does that excuse the failure of the current moron?

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 8 09:31:15 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 22:42:47 2012.

I didn't vote for him.

I will this time around because the alternative is much much worse.



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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 8 09:34:23 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 7 22:44:41 2012.

Swagger only gets you a bullet in the gut.

Which would teach you a thing or two. I'll use my talent to make something, to produce something beyond middle-management excess at the taxpayers' expense.

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Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again

Posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 8 09:50:25 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 7 03:24:20 2012.

That's right. Also Romneycare required some major changes, which are reflected in the ACA, done by Gov Patrick in order to make the system functional as it is now. Now there's some cost containment, along with fairer and better distribution of subsidies, which was driving the cost of insurance to unaffordability for individual purchasers as Romney (who was blind to that detail) had it set up.

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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 8 18:47:08 2012, in response to Re: Job Numbers Disappointing Again, posted by bingbong on Sun Jul 8 09:31:15 2012.

I take it that those are not the sort of "water sports" that you are into.

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