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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:35:39 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:29:25 2012.

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Are you sure? And Michelle worked after she married, until 2008.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:36:35 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:29:25 2012.

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Mrs Rmoney was a college student when she married him. She quit school when they married. She came from the same upperclass background as he, private schools, BYU, never had a job in her life.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:36:39 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:34:46 2012.

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Exactly.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:37:14 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:33:59 2012.

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And if you married a man who could support you like that while you raised your children, then I'm sure you would have taken advantage of that too. Or would you have put the little ones in daycare and worked anyway?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:37:52 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:29:25 2012.

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What did Mrs. Romney do? According to Ms. Rosen, she never worked a day in her life. I don't know if that's true or not. Even is Mrs. Romney did have jobs, was she struggling to find work in the current recession or keep her job while raising her 5 kids?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:38:50 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:37:14 2012.

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I'll let her speak for herself, but there are plenty of woman married to rich guys who work for the satisfaction and mental challenge of it.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:08 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:34:46 2012.

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My point is that she is wise for marrying well.

And Obama said back in 2008 that wives should not be campaign issues.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:39:34 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:35:39 2012.

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Nip, nip, nip! Asshole



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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:47 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:38:50 2012.

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yeah.

real estate and jewelry "consultants".

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:40:26 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:08 2012.

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"And Obama said back in 2008 that wives should not be campaign issues. "

Hilary Rosen is not part of the Obama campaign. She is a freelance pundit.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:40:41 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:34:46 2012.

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That is the whole point. Rmoney isn't actually talking to women, instead he asking his wife (who has no experience WRT what working women face). The whole deal is suspect WRT his attitudes towards women. If he really cared, he'd take it on directly.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:40:49 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:36:35 2012.

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Sorry for your disfunction over her privilidge

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:41:06 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:39:34 2012.

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Nip, nip, shithead!

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:41:19 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:37:52 2012.

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So if someone does not have a story of personal struggle, they can't work to better the lives of those who have less?

Karl Marx never worked in a factory you know.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:41:37 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:08 2012.

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She is definitely wise for marrying well! :)

It's a shame that Mrs. Romney became such a campaign issue. Ms. Rosen just chose a really bad example of why she feels Mitt Romney isn't connecting with women.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:41:50 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:47 2012.

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Stop stereotyping.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:41:57 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:30:55 2012.

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Rmoney is making them one.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:42:21 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:38:50 2012.

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Nip, nip, nip! asshole



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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:43:15 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Apr 12 15:41:37 2012.

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It's only a campaign issue because the GOP made it so. Ms. Rosen is not connected with anyone's campaign. Her remarks have been disavowed by Obama.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:43:53 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:17:12 2012.

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Hardly. You agreed with mine.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:44:12 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:42:21 2012.

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Nip, nip, motherfucker.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:44:55 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:47 2012.

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Oh, you mean like Secretary of State?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:45:03 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:40:26 2012.

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Do you think she has been a guest of the Obama white house?

Wouldn't you want your daughters to marry a man with money. To work because they want to not because they have to?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:45:44 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:41:57 2012.

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So she is not free to express an opinion. then?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:46:08 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:45:03 2012.

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Hell, I would've liked to marry an heiress.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:46:12 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:37:14 2012.

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I would have worked anyway.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:47:04 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 12 15:39:08 2012.

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So why is Rmoney making his one?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:47:16 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:45:44 2012.

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Sure, though I guess Hilary Rosen isn't.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:48:02 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:43:53 2012.

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Speaking of which, you never did answer my question. If you ever married a man who was capable of supporting you while you raised your children, would you stay home and raise them or would you have them raised by strangers?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:48:43 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 14:32:10 2012.

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You don't know where I work. Nor is it any of your business.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:49:52 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by italianstallion on Thu Apr 12 15:47:16 2012.

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Nip, nip, nip! shit face



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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 12 15:50:04 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:40:49 2012.

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Sorry for your disfunction over her privilidge

Interesting. It wasn't OK not to work when you thought Michelle Obama didn't work and Ann Romney did. Time to shake the Etch-a-Sketch!

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:50:25 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:46:12 2012.

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The lord works in mysterious ways -!

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 12 15:51:06 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:48:43 2012.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces (930672)

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:51:51 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:48:43 2012.

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If you are claiming your home office as a tax deduction, I'd be willing to bet it is our business.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:52:37 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:45:44 2012.

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She's as free as Hilary Rosen is. The problem is that Rmoney is taking her opinion, which isn't based on any knowledge of, or direct connection to the reality of being a working parent as actual fact.

Hilary Rosen IS an actual working parent.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:52:55 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 12 15:50:04 2012.

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you got your shoes on the wrong feet again!

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:53:09 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:48:02 2012.

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You never read my answer.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:54:32 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:51:51 2012.

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That's none of your business either. Just as your taxes are none of mine.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:55:11 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:52:37 2012.

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"The problem is that Rmoney is taking her opinion, which isn't based on any knowledge of, or direct connection to the reality "

SO why the fuck should anyone pay attention when you give advice on how children should be raised? But that doesn't stop you from flapping your gums.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:55:37 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:53:09 2012.

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Got to it after I reposted the question

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 12 15:55:38 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:51:51 2012.

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???

Individual taxpayer details are confidential.

And anyway her husband has said he works at home. Therefore as a filer of a joint return she can be deducting expenses for a home office without working at home.



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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:56:55 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by AlM on Thu Apr 12 15:55:38 2012.

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Ywah, now where was that bridge that you were looking to sell?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:58:32 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:40:49 2012.

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I don't have any dysfunction over her privilege. If you do that's your problem.

At the same time, it does not make her anything beyond suspect when asked about the life situation of working women. She sincerely would have no idea as she never had the opportunity to connect with that reality.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:59:24 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 15:58:32 2012.

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Sure you do. You want everyone to have less so you can have more.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 12 16:00:18 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 12 15:09:56 2012.

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It remains to be seen, but Santorum did Obama an infinitely bigger favor than the one that you're alleging the left did for the GOP. I still don't agree with your premise.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 16:01:08 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:55:11 2012.

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As someone who has worked in education. You need to know a lot more about kids and child psychology to do that than you do to be a parent.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 12 16:05:28 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:56:55 2012.

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???

What is false about my post?

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 16:05:49 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 12 15:59:24 2012.

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Wrong. Everyone does however,have to have their needs met. Currently in America that doesn't happen. What one does from there is one's own thing.

Seems that in Europe, with all that socialized medicine, etc, etc there's a more economic mobility than there is here.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Apr 12 16:06:40 2012, in response to Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 12 16:05:49 2012.

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Re: ''War on women'' blows up in Democrats faces (930672)

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