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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by dand124 on Sun Mar 18 14:25:23 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 13:51:21 2012.

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is was only talking about ED treatments. not a general statement.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 14:26:19 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by dand124 on Sun Mar 18 14:25:23 2012.

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Oh nevermind I gotcha... ;)

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 18 14:36:14 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 13:58:51 2012.

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Yup. The first of three good ideas by Rick Perry. The second was dropping out of the presidential race. The third was um, um…I'll have to get back to you on that one.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 18 15:27:35 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 12 13:52:16 2012.

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Such a restriction can be made. It still exists for emergency contraceptives. It even exists for moisturizing nosedrops called Ponaris.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 18 16:35:39 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 18 14:36:14 2012.

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The third was suggesting that each Supreme Court Justice should serve a single 18 year term, with terms expiring one every 2 years.



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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 18 16:35:45 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 13:51:21 2012.

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Most (at least younger men), the causes of ED are psyhological, not physical.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 21:31:38 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 18 14:36:14 2012.

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LOL! I won't wait... ;)

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by B68 slow poke on Sun Mar 18 21:41:12 2012, in response to Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by dand124 on Sun Mar 11 13:04:16 2012.

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Aside from that. Do as I did in 1977.

real men have vasectomies

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 22:31:44 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Sun Mar 18 13:58:51 2012.

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I didn't miss anything. The fact the it's not the greatest cause of cervical cancer doesn't mean that it should be ignored. Women who are in high risk groups may not be aware of that status unless it is discussed with a health practitioner. Beside which, cervical cancer or cancer in general is not the only risk women face. Progesterone based contraceptives also come with a risk of causing hypertension, stroke and heart attack. I realize that the clerk at Walmart can tell the woman about the risks but is that same person working the register going to do the screening too?

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 19 00:54:12 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by B68 slow poke on Sun Mar 18 21:41:12 2012.

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FALSE.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by B68 slow poke on Mon Mar 19 02:51:22 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 19 00:54:12 2012.

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Ok I went overboard with that...However THAT IS WHAT I DID !

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 19 03:01:35 2012, in response to Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by dand124 on Sun Mar 11 13:04:16 2012.

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Aw, this is George Carlin's "Birth Control" routine come to life . . .
Birth control pills. That's part of the drug scene, isn't it? You have to count them. The entire female population of the US is being used as the guinea pigs to find out if birth control pills are gonna have any side effects or not. Isn't that nice. Really, if every lady who used them gets to 61 and one leg gets shorter than the other one...better call the pills back. Birth control pills are still on prescription. You still need a note to get laid. It's so bad. Not only do you need a note, you gotta go to one guy to get the note, and you gotta bring it to another guy. Everybody's in on it, y'know. Ladies must feel silly goin' up.. "Here's my note. Hmm.." "Oh, that's what you're doing at home, eh? Well, uh, we're keeping a record of it here in the store. Late at night, I read them."

Someday, birth control pills will come off prescription and when they do, they'll need those cute little catchy names that the patent medicines have. They'll sell birth control pills at the corner drug store, there'll be one cent sales at Rexall. There'll be attractive little cartons, merchandising campaigns, a special Christmas package. They'll be right up there with the Schrafft's two-cent mints at the cash register. "Take your change and birth control!" And they’ll need those cute little names, names that describe what the product does. Names like…well, we have so many patent medicines today—Sleep-eze, No-Doz, Dentu-Grip, Ora-Fix... Sounds a little freaky that one, I dunno... (gay voice:) "Listen, may I have an Ora-Fix?" "Not without a note. Hell, no."
  • Someday birth control pills will need names like: Preg-Not!
  • Doctors prefer Embry-No!
  • Here’s one for the ladies: Nary a Carry!
  • Something lofty and poetic: Nay, Family Way!
  • Something earthy and crude: Mom Bomb.
  • Something for the youngsters: Junior…Miss!
  • Here’s a real man’s product: Inconceivable!
Mommy Not, Fetus Fail, Kiddie Kill, Poppa Stopper, whatever you want. Womb Broom, Humpty Dumpty, y'know. They’re clever guys. I wouldn’t be surprised if they come up with a birth control pill that doesn't work all the time and call it Baby-Maybe! "Available in the six-pack, the sex-pack and the handy shack-pack for you weekenders! One for home, one for the office and one for the glove compartment, guys! And don’t forget to save those wrappers!" Remember that, you always save 60 wrappers and get some azalea seeds.

Here's a phone call that will never take place. A common phone call that will never occur again once birth control is universal. Once everyone had a way to plan, no bachelor will ever have to fear this phone call again. And they fear it. So do married men. It's a scary call if you're fertile at all.
(ring) "Hello!"

"Hello, Dave?"

"Yeah, this is Dave. Who is this?"

"This is Jane."

"Jane? Jane who?"

"Jane…"

"Jane Jane?"

"Jane! You met me at a party about six to eight weeks ago and you said I was a real good sport."

"Oh, Christ yeah. How are you, Jane?"

"Pregnant! And I'm gonna jump out the window!"

"Say, you are a good sport, aren't ya, Jane?"
It is a male sexist pig joke, really. . . .


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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 19 03:23:40 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by B68 slow poke on Mon Mar 19 02:51:22 2012.

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Dewd ... it's OK ... OT has chased away most of the libruls here who would commend you for honoring Bob Barker and spaying and neutering and all ... oh wait. :)

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 19 03:28:52 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 19 03:23:40 2012.

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Well of course, while a vasectomy will prevent pregnancy, it will not prevent STD transmission.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 19 03:32:13 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 19 03:28:52 2012.

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Neither will the pill. And reality is a lot of STD's get around that rolled end too. :)

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 19 05:48:47 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 18 14:36:14 2012.

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HAHA!!

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by JayMan on Mon Mar 19 08:21:58 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 18 22:31:44 2012.

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The risks are at the level of OTC drugs. Hence....

No matter, it's not going to happen yet, not while the medical establishment gets to make money getting women in to see doctors unnecessarily. Maybe after "Obamacare" kicks in...

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 19 10:27:11 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Mon Mar 19 08:21:58 2012.

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Rent-seeking behavior.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 12:35:21 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by JayMan on Mon Mar 19 08:21:58 2012.

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It shouldn't happen - period.

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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 19 12:43:05 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 12:35:21 2012.

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You have a point. It may not be good policy to allow drugs to be sold over the counter when they can have very serious side effects.

But then why it is OK for people to suffer liver damage from acetominophen?




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Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 19 20:44:57 2012, in response to Re: Fight Birth Control Battle Over the Counter, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 19 12:43:05 2012.

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I suspect that many over the counter drugs can have serious side effects if they are used improperly or used to excess. I suspect that the dangers and benefits were weighed before Tylenol was okayed to be sold over the counter. However, you make my point. When was the last time you bought a bottle of Tylenol and were told by the check-out girl at PATHMARK that there are potential side effects? My contention is that the potential dangers posed by oral contraceptives is enough reason for continued distribution via prescription and under the close supervision and monitoring of a licensed medical practitioner.

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