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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:00:23 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 11:39:50 2011. LMAO over all the whining about Allred. You included. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:02:05 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:56:54 2011. We won't. Fill up on your own lard and hatred, why don't you? Hypocrite. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 12:03:13 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:00:23 2011. LOL!!! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 12:04:42 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:02:05 2011. Awwwwww, did we hurt your wittle feelings? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:05:15 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 12:04:42 2011. Hardly, hater. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 12:07:28 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:05:15 2011. Good because I really don't care for you. Hate does take too much effort. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 12:15:25 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 11:47:56 2011. You're obsessed with partisan politics. Limbaugh has nothing to do with this. It's just my opinion of this woman. I'm not even commenting on her complaints about Cain because only they know the truth. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:37:29 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:30:31 2011. There are no krispy kremes available in Albany. The one that opened in Latham closed years ago. Never had one, o donut obsessed one. They're available near you though. Go get your own right now, before your healthcare employee (those in long term healthcare like Alzhemer's care are dependent on Medicare and Medicaid to fund their jobs) wife finds out that's what you're spending your public pension money on. She'll be home soon. Hypocrite. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 12:52:48 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 12:15:25 2011. I feel that her and Cain are both fishy so i'll keep the book open.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 12:58:39 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 12:07:28 2011. Hater. See what I mean. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 8 13:02:54 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 12:52:48 2011. As for Cain, I do not like his attitude. I am not talking about that he may or may not have done this, but the way he handles adversary is not the way I would want a president to do so. A president will have all sorts of "uncomfortable" things come up, and he can't just say "I won't answer any of these questions, attack the media like he has, or pretend it didn't happen. He should have said, here's what happened, here's my side of the story, and let the chips fall where they may.His handling of this has been anything but "presidential". Then again, our current president is anything but presidential in a lot of how he handles adversary too, so it wouldn't make me not vote for Cain, if he became the candidate, but he's not really my choice right now either. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 13:20:22 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:06:03 2011. It's pretty clear that BMW is Leaving South Carolina. After all, why else would they be offering another 100 jobs in that plant if they weren't going to close it. Why would they have a student training program unless they were convinced that the workforce was untrainable. Just another example of a talking out of their ass. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:23:02 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 11:06:03 2011. They're already plenty profitable.Who the fuck are you to judge whether they are plenty profitable or not? Who the FUCK is anyone to judge that? They are a private institution. They have the RIGHT to build their factories wherever they want to. Again, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to judge? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:25:04 2011, in response to Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 18:17:46 2011. She lost all credibility aligning with Allred. Sorry, honey. Allowing yourself to be used as a pawn in a political witchhunt removes any sympathy I might have had for her if she weren't the lying cunt I strongly suspect she is. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:26:37 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 7 22:08:15 2011. They never would have seen the light of day if they were leveled against Obama. Allred would have laughed her out of her office and no lawyer not aligned with far right would touch her case (see Jones, Paula). |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 13:27:44 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:23:02 2011. Just another example of a talking out of their ass. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:32:38 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 7 20:55:35 2011. Not really, though I think eventually a quantity of scandals will do what each individual one cannot. There's considerable anger on the right over how this is being handled by the media, and how the Republican establishment (Karl Rove) is giving legitimacy to it. Sticking by Cain is seen as a way to flip off the MSM, and unless he raped underaged girls by the dozens over a period of 13 years, said outrage will still remain entirely politically driven (absurdly overboard from the left, dismissive from the right).The sad part for Democrats here is that Cain would self destruct on his own had they just allowed him to continue speaking. He's a gaffe machine proving he's not ready for prime time. Sadly, racist Democrats just couldn't wait for things to naturally happen, because it was quite possible he'd win the GOP nomination and face Obama next November. That could not happen because it would fatally and permanently weaken the "GOP is racist" meme the Dems absolutely need to keep their rag-tag coalition together. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 13:33:48 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:26:37 2011. Paula Jones was Allred's first "celebrity" client. RWNBs had no problem with that. Care to rethink that? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 13:36:10 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 11:33:14 2011. It sounded like the sort of thing that still happens day after day. She is completely credible, despite having gotten involved with Allred. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 13:45:13 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:32:38 2011. I think the GOP wants him out. I'd think the DNC wants him in.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:46:08 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 13:27:44 2011. I am getting a little sick and tired of this attitude that making above a certain amount of money is wrong. It's never right or wrong when it comes to the AMOUNT made, only the process can be criticized. If Boeing is making billions lawfully, go Boeing! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:47:54 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 13:45:13 2011. Both want him out. Democrats want him to go totally away for reasons I've gone into elsewhere. Republicans want him to act at what he does best: give charismatic speeches which fire up the base (sound familiar?). Many GOP insiders see Cain as their Obama, a man popular with the base but so completely inexperienced that he could fatally damage the brand as President. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Nov 8 13:51:35 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SMAZ on Tue Nov 8 00:14:51 2011. She's white.And very attractive. My kind of white woman. :-) |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 8 14:19:41 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:47:54 2011. Democrats don't want him gone. 9-9-9 has such a fantastic negative appeal to their base. Going back to the gold standard has a fantastic negative appeal to the business community. His skin color neutralizes Obama's among racist Democrats in parts of WV and Kentucky and other mid-south areas, where Obama ran 10% behind Kerry.What a glorious combination for Obama to run against! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 14:25:08 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 8 14:19:41 2011. That's the spin. The reality is that there cannot be any black man heading a GOP ticket, heck, there can't be any minority at the head of the GOP ticket. It ruins all their desperately needed narratives. This is why the WaPo decided to target Marco Rubio's heritage last month with an awful piece condemned as inaccurate by almost everyone.Most people do not understand the specifics of Cain's economic proposals and the reaction to them by the majority is too much of a wild card. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 14:33:35 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 13:33:48 2011. No she wasn't. She filed a brief in the Jones case. Jones' lawyer was provided by the conservative Rutherford Institute. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 8 14:57:40 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 14:25:08 2011. The working class perfectly well know how much 9-9-9 will hurt them. Educated business people (which is most of them) know what the gold standard will do to them.There is no spin here. These are firmly held proposals of Cain's that would alienate a good percentage of the voters. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 14:58:20 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 14:25:08 2011. Cain's economic "proposal" is not much more than a fiscal trainwreck. Economists, left and right, have analyzed it and come to the same conclusion. One would think a professional economist would understand all the specifics involved. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 8 15:20:31 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by bingbong on Tue Nov 8 14:58:20 2011. Chris isn't even an amatuer economist. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 8 15:41:30 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:32:38 2011. I think the GOP wants him out. I'd think the DNC wants him in.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:23:15 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 07:45:49 2011. There are rules, there are laws. Other companies, including ours must follow them or suffer the same fate. Why should Boeing get a pass that any other company doesn't? Oh yeah ... they own some congressfish. How could I forget?Once again ... they could have easily done this without so much as a peep out of DC. But they chose to put in WRITING that they were doing this out of revenge, and then said the same thing to the media. And yes, what they did was ILLEGAL. Or should we just not enforce the laws? BTW: Most of the parts for those planes are made overseas as it is. And cute asking for "proff" when a judge ordered the evidence sealed as stated on the NLRB site which I linked to in the message you responded to. You COULD read it there ... but you didn't. http://www.google.com/search?q=boeing+north+carolina+retaliation |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:30:13 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 13:46:08 2011. Heh. Here's the future you're fighting for then ... over in India, workers have been going out on strike because of some seriously unfair work rules. The current government is now setting up their equivalent of "enterprise zones" there where rules no longer apply. Some managers make almost US$300 a MONTH under labor agreements that give them a pittance of a salary and if they NEVER miss a day of work, they can get the rest of it up to US$300 per month as a bonus at the end of the year for being a "good worker."In the "enterprise zone" equivalent, no such deal and certainly nowhere near that in wages. Now your friends are telling us all that America has to "compete" with those wages. Guess what's going to happen to YOU? Start budgeting, that's the plan for your future, bro ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:32:41 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 11:19:43 2011. Those flaws are mostly from China and Italy ... read up on it and find out. Sometimes inches don't perfectly translate to millimeters without decimal places. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:36:22 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Nov 8 08:21:00 2011. Official frog farts precisely at 1400 hours. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:37:47 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Nov 8 08:34:01 2011. As Mario Cuomo used to say, "Asked and answered." :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:41:24 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 07:12:42 2011. They probably won't, which is of course why the law needs to be circumvented by the party of "breaking the law is perfectly OK if it's one of ours" ... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Nov 8 16:51:35 2011, in response to PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 13:20:22 2011. A net tax recipient welfare state. I wish I could go back in a time tunnel with a mutagenic agent to fuck up their gene pool. OH WAIT, I DON'T HAVE TO. THEY USE INCEST to do the same thing. Too dumb to unionize. NAZI SCUM. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:56:19 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 8 14:33:35 2011. Yes, but Allred ran with it and wrapped herself in the case to the media and I think that's what Bingbong was saying. Nobody told Allred to go away either. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:02:43 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:23:15 2011. You are rehashing the same tired stuff. My contention is this is not the province of the NLRB. All the rest is bullshit. If the union feels that Boeing has acted unfairly against their members, let them go on strike or take it to court but the Seattle employees of Boeing are not affected. They still have their jobs. They still have their benefits and they still have their hours. If Boeing wants to expand and create 2,000 new jobs, that's a purely business decision between them, their financiers and their stock holders. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:06:56 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by RockParkMan on Tue Nov 8 16:51:35 2011. Mike, just what does that have to do with the thrust of what I posted? The original claim was that BMW was going to leave South Carolina due to an unsatisfactory labor pool. I've not found any documentation that even hints that to be the case. On the contrary, I've found on their own website, what I call proof that they are investing in the people of South Carolina because they have every intent to stay. I appreciate you passion but in this case, it's not what this is about. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:08:31 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 16:56:19 2011. If you go to Gloria Allred with a high profile case, you know that she's a media whore and that's the first place she's going to run. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:08:32 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:02:43 2011. They've GONE on strike, they've GONE to court, that's what this is all about. Back with the Empty-yay as a manager ... what do you suppose would happen to you if an employee filed a grievance and you not only retaliated against them, but put out a memo saying you would? This is what this is about ... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 17:10:04 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:06:56 2011. bingbong has little credibility. She is everything wrong with America. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:17:05 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:06:56 2011. Sounds like SC gave them heap big wampum to stay then. Bingbong's parents lived right near the plant there and that was the story a few years ago. They were only going to remain until the tax break expired and were going to be out of there once it did, citing exactly that as the cause. Looks like SC "solved" the problem if what you say is true. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:18:16 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:08:31 2011. FWIW, I have a Bronx quality sidewalk act detector. I believe the woman and watched her presser twice looking for signs of being elusive and untruthful (rather than taking anybody's word for it) ... she passed my BS detector test.But Allred? Ouch. :( |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:20:01 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:08:32 2011. Again, how does the NLRB stop a company from expanding as a business strategy? Hundreds of unionized companies have, over the last 3 decades, left the north east for better climates or for more favorable tax situations. Many major investment firms and banks have moved their back offices to NJ. Workers were uprooted. The NLRB has never once intervened. Why now? Especially when jobs are not being moved. They are being created.If what Boeing did falls within the purview of the NLRB, fine them if they've wronged the union. Let the Justice Dept. take on the case if they've done something illegal but the NLRB has never had a say in a corporation's plans to re-locate or to expand. It's not part of their mandate. This is just another obama ploy to hold the labor vote while he continues to let them bleed jobs. That's all it is. End of story. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:22:25 2011, in response to Re: Cain Accuser Speaks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:18:16 2011. I doubt her story but I don't care. Cain is only a distraction. He's the opening act for the major candidates. The sooner they get him off the stage, the sooner the curtain goes up on the real show. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:23:38 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:17:05 2011. Just follow the link that I provided. It's all there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:34:25 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 8 17:10:04 2011. In all fairness, she's not everything that's wrong with America. She may fall on the wrong side of virtually all issues but she seems to be engaged in the process. The problem is, as you correctly point out, that she lies and has little to no credibility and on top of that she has a nasty demeanor when she disagrees with people. The childishness over "teabaggers" is just one example. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 8 17:38:32 2011, in response to Re: PROOF That BMW Is Leaving South Carolina - NOT (was Cain Accuser Speaks), posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 8 17:23:38 2011. I'll click yours if you click mine. :) |
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