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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 09:45:17 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Sat Jul 23 11:25:41 2011.

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That 53% does not include the president who refers to the unemployed as , "Just bumps in the road".



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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 25 10:14:13 2011, in response to Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 22 18:37:06 2011.

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Apparently the Dem plan is to default, then blame Republicans.

The "Dem plan" is to get an agreement passed. The Republican plan is to be obstructionist, despite the fact that they had no problem raising the debt limit seven times during the prior administration.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 11:18:03 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 25 10:14:13 2011.

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....or 17 (19,depending on who you ask) times during the Reagan administration.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 11:25:41 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 25 10:14:13 2011.

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FICTION! The Republicans have stated that they were willing to go along with raising the debt limit as long as there were also meaningful cuts towards a balanced budget. The current president wants nothing to do with reducing the debt because his boss, George Soros, doesn't want it.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Jul 25 11:31:18 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Jul 23 15:40:30 2011.

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Odd...democrats call the republicans the party of "no", yet there are republicans calling the democrats the party of "no"? Bizarre, who's saying "yes" then?

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 11:56:18 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 22 19:59:19 2011.

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They did NOT pass a debt limit increase. They passed this sham of a budget bill which could allow for an increase, but not without ridiculous stipulations there isn't the time to pursue, much less pass. A "balanced budget amendment" doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the majorities needed to pass.

It died a swift and proper death in the Senate, where sanity has been given asylum this session.

Wisest thing to do is pass a clean debt ceiling increase, just like they did during bush, over and over again. The (republican) reason things are stagnating economically is that Congress is NOT doing its job, NOT implementing the laws already passed so everyone can adjust to how it is. Without those laws enacted fully, this limbo will persist.

Fact is, we need to get rid of them ASAP so we can get back to work, get some infrastructure funded so we can continue growth and redevelop revenue sources to pay for it all. THEN we can see what needs cutting.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 11:57:29 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Jul 25 11:31:18 2011.

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The Democrats do the same thing "The Republicans" do, but they pretend they don't.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 12:06:45 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Jul 25 11:31:18 2011.

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The Democrats are only saying no to the badly thought out and destructive plans of the republcians. That's a good thing. Sensible cutting along with sensible revenue increases will get us back to 2000, when we had a surplus (to enable lowering debt by PAYING IT OFF) and full employment. Funny how the two go together.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:09:35 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011.

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Hahahahaha!

sorry ...

Hahahahaha!

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:11:45 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:09:35 2011.

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Truth hurts. :)

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 13:14:10 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011.

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You're just pissed off that you were too young and missed the sexual revolution. Sorry you didn't get any when you were younger, but it isn't my problem. What's you go and elect bush for?

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:17:58 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 13:14:10 2011.

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That's the best you can do to argue the fact that the Baby Boomer generation has completely destroyed this country? That's about as absurd as me jokingly saying to Fred that he's "just pissed off at LI because we destroy their Oceanfront property", except you probably said your comment seriously. LMAO.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 13:24:29 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:11:45 2011.

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Laffing on the outside, crying on the inside . . . where have we heard that before?

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:36:57 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:11:45 2011.

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Uh-huh. Pity your gameboys kept you from seeing what was going on around you. A little reading would have stopped the corporate revolution that's eating your future.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:37:51 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 13:17:58 2011.

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Your age group is pretty much in charge now that the boomers have trudged on. So where's that improvement and all those jobs? Obama is GenX. LOL

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 14:01:47 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 09:29:28 2011.

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LMAO

Shoulda started earlier if you were going to 'fix the MESS'.

GenX has already hit its 40's :P

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:42:53 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:37:51 2011.

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Your age group is pretty much in charge now that the boomers have trudged on.

LOL! Uh no, the government right now is INFESTED with Baby Boomers yet, we could only HOME they "trudge on" soon, as the Baby Boomers of both sides have DESTROYED this country (and no it's the Democrats just as much as the Republican Baby Boomers).
Generation X includes people born in the 1960s through the late '70s, sometimes as far as the early '80s, usually no later than 1982.

So where's that improvement and all those jobs?

As I said, the Baby Boomers are still in control. Amazing what the "Greatest Generation" bore.

Obama is GenX.

Uhm, no. The United States Census Bureau considers a baby boomer to be someone born during the demographic birth boom between 1946 and 1964, including 1964. Obama was born in 1961. Fail.




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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:43:34 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:37:51 2011.

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Your age group is pretty much in charge now that the boomers have trudged on.

LOL! Uh no, the government right now is INFESTED with Baby Boomers yet, we could only HOPE they "trudge on" soon, as the Baby Boomers of both sides have DESTROYED this country (and no it's the Democrats just as much as the Republican Baby Boomers).
Generation X includes people born in the LATE 1960s through the late '70s, sometimes as far as the early '80s, usually no later than 1982.

So where's that improvement and all those jobs?

As I said, the Baby Boomers are still in control. Amazing what the "Greatest Generation" bore.

Obama is GenX.

Uhm, no. The United States Census Bureau considers a baby boomer to be someone born during the demographic birth boom between 1946 and 1964, including 1964. Obama was born in 1961. Fail.




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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 14:46:31 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:42:53 2011.

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You guys are in your 40's. Kinda old to still be blaming mom and dad.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:48:19 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 13:36:57 2011.

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Gameboy? Never owned one. I think you are thinking of Generation Y. Sorry.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:57:13 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 14:46:31 2011.

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You got the age wrong. And the Baby Boomers ARE the ones in power, not the Gen X'ers. Obama is pretty young (You know, our "bright young president") in terms of politicians, and HE is 3 or 4 years still in the Baby Boomer generation. Can't have the cake and eat it too.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:04:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:57:13 2011.

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Gen X includes people in their 40's no?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:18:10 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 15:04:43 2011.

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As well as many more NOT in their 40's. Someone who is now 29 is a Gen Xer, Everyone in their 30's, People to about 45. The main group is people born in the 70's, who are now in their 40's, with a fringe of people in their early 40's, as well as people in their very late 20's.

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TYPO Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:19:15 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:18:10 2011.

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As well as many more NOT in their 40's. Someone who is now 29 is a Gen Xer, Everyone in their 30's, People to about 45. The main group is people born in the 70's, who are now in their 30's, with a fringe of people in their early 40's, as well as people in their very late 20's.

30's being the main Gen Xer.

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Re:YPOtay Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 16:33:50 2011, in response to TYPO Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 15:19:15 2011.

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Haha, Gen X . . .



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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:39:29 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 14:01:47 2011.

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Too busy texting.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jul 25 16:44:53 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 13:24:29 2011.

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We are in deep s**t. Obama will talk tonight,and the stock market will fall more on Tuesday. IMHO.
Oh,gasoline prices are rising again. Woe is us!

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:48:23 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:42:53 2011.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:51:44 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:43:34 2011.

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Shrub was a boomer. Clinton was a boomer. So let's burn 'em all. :)

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:52:54 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 14:48:19 2011.

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Sorry you were so deprived. :)

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jul 25 16:54:20 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jul 25 11:25:41 2011.

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First, it was the Democrats that actually made progress towards addressing the debt the last time they held the Presidency. Had they continued we wouldn't be having this "conversation". Instead, we'd be on a sounder financial footing than bush left us in with his tax cuts, opportunistic wars, excessive military spending on useless and pointless unwanted materiel, overreactive expensive terrorism responses, unfunded mandates, and corporate welfare programs. There's the debt, there's the deficits.

Rescind all taxcuts from the past 10 years. Allow Medicare to buy in bulk and negotiate drug prices like the VA does and Part D will become affordable. Fund infrastructure development and grow the economy. THEN we'll see what needs to be cut. You can't cut programs that would harm people until there's full employment.

George Soros is not President Obama's boss. Despite your asinine statement

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:16:28 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 25 14:01:47 2011.

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Yes, but most of the lawmakers are older than that. Obama is considered "young" in terms of politics, and even HE is still a Baby Boomer.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:21:25 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:48:23 2011.

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Upset at what? You were proven wrong, so you come back with a silly photo. Oh, I know "It's not important and you don't really care anyway".... :)

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 18:23:56 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:21:25 2011.

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The words "I stand corrected" just ain't in his vocabulary . . .

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:25:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:51:44 2011.

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Yes they were. But government is more than just the president. Congress is still infested with them. The same Congress YOU Complain about too. And yes, Obama is also still a Baby Boomer.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:28:54 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 16:52:54 2011.

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No, you are still confusing Generation X with the next Generation. As mentioned, Generation X includes those born in the late 60's to those born up to around 1982. Gameboy wasn't invented until 1989.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:28:55 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:21:25 2011.

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You obviously have me confused with someone who cares about your excuse making for your own generation. Nope, not happening son ... you voted republican, you can live with the consequences.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 18:29:47 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:28:54 2011.

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I usually gave up when he resorted to word salad.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:30:33 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 18:23:56 2011.

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Sure they are ... but not here.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:34:05 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:25:43 2011.

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Whatever ... solving that question will fix everything. Sheesh. So tell us what YOUR generation is doing to fix things? LOL

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:35:09 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 18:29:47 2011.

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You're unable to even keep up with the dinnerware before anything is even served.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:35:57 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:28:54 2011.

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So what is GenX doing to solve the problem? Stop twitching and answer the question.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 25 18:41:45 2011, in response to Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 22 18:37:06 2011.

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Bullshit.

He thought he could sit down with him and DICTATE what they were going to do to solve this so called problem..
He didnt expect to get slapped in his face with this man's verbal-dash..or put in his place..

Good for YOu,Obama.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:51:12 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:34:05 2011.

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They are only beginning to enter government positions at this point. For over 30 years we had the Baby Boomers making a disaster out of the Country., that's still going to probably take two generations to fix. Just look at the mess we are in, and YES Baby Boomers come in both political parties.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:54:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:51:12 2011.

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The average age of the 110th Congress is 55 years for the Representatives, and 57 for the Senate. That means the average is 56...which brings us back to 1955....right in the middle of the Baby Boomer era. We still have 10 years average to go to GET RID of them, as the Baby Boomer era ends about 1965.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:56:36 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:35:57 2011.

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What can they do with the Baby Boomers still in full swing of controlling our Governement. The average age of Congress is about 56....meaning they average born date is 1955....10 years still FULLY in the Baby Boomer era.

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:57:41 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 18:28:55 2011.

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LOL!!!!!! The "like I care" card was pulled!

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:01:43 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 25 18:41:45 2011.

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Still doing it today. You know it's pure political bullshit when the republicans are SO desperate to sink Obama that they're bitchslapping Wall Street who is BEGGING them to just do it. :-\

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 25 19:09:31 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:57:41 2011.

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Yeah, hundreds of obsessive replies boil down to "like I care" . . . amazing, eh?

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Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 25 19:22:29 2011, in response to Re: Boehner walks away, gives up on debt negotiations with Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 25 18:54:43 2011.

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