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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 5 20:36:50 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 5 16:51:20 2011. I think of California actually, but yeah, Orange County Choppers comes to mind too.... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 5 20:39:02 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jul 5 17:21:31 2011. LOL!!!! Thats what I just typed! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 5 20:44:09 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 19:20:47 2011. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1372232/http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1372231/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0929500/ |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 5 20:58:30 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 5 20:36:50 2011. I think of the county that the Port Jervis Line goes too, but not the TV motorcycle builders. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jul 5 21:28:11 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 14:19:32 2011. ...California juries?You didn't blame the OJ result on the location of the jurors, but rather the race of the jurors. Somewhat of a double standard. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 21:36:55 2011, in response to Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 13:41:06 2011. She certainly had a lot invested in the case.RCP
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jul 5 21:46:13 2011, in response to Nancy Grace: "The Devil Is Dancing Tonight", posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 5 21:36:55 2011. Well, Nancy Grace is speaking for most of America. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 06:10:24 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 17:48:46 2011. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that if Casey Anthony had been Laquisha Williams, she'd be on Death Row now?This was "checkbook justice"; Anthony had good, expensive lawyers, not public defenders, and the "protection of her complexion". She was a sympathetic defendant on top of all that. Jury nullification is a b*tch, but it's clear to me, at least, why she walked. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 06:29:26 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 06:10:24 2011. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that if Casey Anthony had been Laquisha Williams, she'd be on Death Row now?Yes, there is such doubt. How could anyone in their right mind believe that? Especially since white people are more likely to be sentenced to death. And still more likely to be sentenced to death? Murderers of white victims. If Laquisha Williams had murdered her daughter, her victim wouldn't be white. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 07:11:51 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 06:29:26 2011. With all due respect, you need to read up on studies about conviction and sentencing disparities between the races. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 07:23:34 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 06:10:24 2011. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that if Casey Anthony had been Laquisha Williams, she'd be on Death Row now?Oh for Christ's sake, here we go. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 07:24:22 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 07:11:51 2011. Imagine if OJ had been white, I guess he would have gotten off too....Oh wait. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 07:25:23 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 07:11:51 2011. Yes, I have read that, and I stand by my assertion that one is more likely to be sentenced to death when white than when black. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 07:53:17 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 07:25:23 2011. He can't help himself, it's who he is....the only thing that gets his persecution complex going more than gay topics is racial ones were he can try and play the race card. I kind of figured the persecution complex activists would start at some point. Since the case has no racial overtures to "be outraged" about, they have to make some up as it's all white here. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 6 07:58:59 2011, in response to Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 13:41:06 2011. I see nothing wrong with the verdict - there was absolutely NO direct evidence. I do not believe that people should be convicted based on the fact that juries don't like their attitude or choice of lifestyle. I would have voted NOT GUILTY as well!! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 08:28:28 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 07:23:34 2011. I predicted it last night and Osmosis "What's Up"? Jones got mad at me.Poor guy. He doesn't know how it works. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 08:35:58 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 6 07:58:59 2011. I haven't been following the case, so I really can't say although it sure sounds like OJ based on the bits I have heard. Either way, everyone keeps saying while murder probably couldn't be proved beyond a doubt, manslaughter is another thing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 08:41:48 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 08:28:28 2011. For some reason I didn't even think of JayZee doing this nonsense, although it should have been expected. I thought it was a joke when you mentioned the race nonsense and how some will try to pull that angle, but it's unbelievable that they actually are trying that nonsense. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 08:44:30 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 06:10:24 2011. I doubt that she's have been charged with capital murder. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 08:47:14 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 08:41:48 2011. For some reason I didn't even think of JayZee doing this nonsense,Oh definitely. It was the first thing I said last night. In 2011 America many are keeping racial scorecard. Especially JayZeeBMT. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 08:47:46 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 08:44:30 2011. good point. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 08:54:03 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 17:48:46 2011. I haven't been paying attention to the trial and do not know the legal particulars. But she certainly killed her kid. Like OJ, this is a about reality, not legality. Maybe there wasn't enough evidence to convict her beyond a reasonable doubt. But the bitch still killed her kid.Wow. That's great logic. You haven't paid attention to the trial (and therefore not the evidence either) and yet you're sure she murdered the kid. Have you considered the possibility that the reason she tells lots of lies and acts weird is that she's mentally ill, rather than a murderer? No, that would be too complicated to think about. I haven't followed the evidence either. Maybe if I had I'd be 100% convinced she was guilty. But it's pretty lazy to be so sure when you have no idea what the evidence actually was. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 09:11:48 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 08:47:14 2011. Race is a fact of life in the criminal justice system. You could speculate on the "value" of a 3 year old child depending on race..... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 09:19:51 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 07:25:23 2011. Evidence?I've always read that the ONLY statistical correlation is with death sentences and the race of the victim. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 09:22:38 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 08:54:03 2011. I think you are being a bit judgmental. CSI has moved the bar of public consciousness. Where circumstantial evidence would suffice in the past, now juries expect video, finger prints and DNA. Evidence in this case was not conclusive but it was damning. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 09:25:20 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 07:25:23 2011. Seems to be the case... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 09:33:27 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 09:22:38 2011. I don't disbelieve you at all. I wouldn't be surprised if juries have often moved the "reasonable doubt" bar too far.But Chris was convinced she was guilty without having paid any attention to the case. That's all I'm complaining about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 09:39:01 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 08:54:03 2011. Have you considered the possibility that the reason she tells lots of lies and acts weird is that she's mentally ill, rather than a murderer?Yeah a mentally ill individual that killed her daughter. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 09:47:30 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 6 07:58:59 2011. No direct evidence? Did you not see or hear about all the forensic evidence the DA put on, including hair that was a DNA match for little Caylee, found in the trunk of Casey's car, which was analyzed and shown to have ended up in that trunk post-mortem??? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 09:49:57 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 09:47:30 2011. Of course, and most of us have expressed ridiculousness at this, but you are the one that tried and bring race into this non-racial case. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 6 09:52:45 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 09:47:30 2011. Gonna carry on about this like you did when you were convinced that DSK was guilty? That's who you are as an individual.As OBS explained, it was a PINELLAS COUNTY jury. Do you know what that means?????? Means lots of northerners and types of the such. Pinellas was annexed by NYC/LI/NENJ decades ago. Stop being such a drama queen about this verdict. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 6 09:58:16 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 09:33:27 2011. My wife (Chris) and Chris would get along wonderfully. My wife was transfixed by the case and is now livid over the verdict. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 10:06:23 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 09:49:57 2011. It ain't exactly a "non-racial case". Several of my fellow commentators in the media thios morning have mentioned that they thought the outcome would have been different were Anthony not a "white, sympathetic" defendant. I'm not the only one who caught this, given the abundance of foremsic evidence against Anthony.Who the defendant is can, and does, sometimes influence the verdict. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 10:12:24 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 10:06:23 2011. Again, "Oh Please.".Yeah, your fellow ACTIVIST commentators. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 6 10:12:58 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 06:10:24 2011. I wouldn't go to race but more that it's as much justice as you can afford. This case was won by a better legal mind on the defense team than the legal mind that was the prosecution. If Laquisha Williams could afford same defense team as could Casey Anthony I think verdict would have been same. Nancy Grace may or may not have acted differently but who gives a shit?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 6 10:15:03 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 6 09:47:30 2011. The hair could have belonged to any of five people according to this articleInvestigators discovered hairs in the trunk, which they tested for DNA. This would be the part of the TV plot where we'd learn who owned the hairs. In reality, DNA testing only narrowed the identity. Because the hairs they found contained no roots or tissue, investigators could test only for mitochondrial DNA, which is passed down through female ancestors. This means the hairs could belong to as many as five people: Casey, her mother, grandmother and brother, and finally Caylee. Read the rest of the article. I would rather see a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent even spend a day in jail for something he/she did not do. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 10:16:51 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 6 10:12:58 2011. Good post. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 6 10:22:25 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 6 10:15:03 2011. I can agree with that, and that's the one solace that makes me feel better.And imagine this, JayZee would rather jump on the racial bandwagon (as it gets more pull for the buck), than his usual "Someone spent 20 years in jail for something he didn't do". Oh yeah, I forgot, it only matters I guess if the person who spent that bad time in jail is black or gay or some other minority. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jul 6 10:42:45 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 09:19:51 2011. Well if blacks murderers mainly kill blacks and white murderers mainly kill whites then he's correct. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 6 11:56:52 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by busdude2 on Tue Jul 5 18:26:44 2011. There's nothing wrong with our justice system. The prosecution didn't present as good a case as the defense.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 6 14:19:46 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 6 09:19:51 2011. Don't remember where I read it but the proportion of blacks sentenced to death out of total people sentenced to death is less than the proportion of blacks convicted of murder (which is the only way to be sentenced to death except for the rare and statistically irrelevant treason and other such crimes). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 11 09:22:59 2011, in response to Casey Anthony verdict is in, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 5 13:41:06 2011. She says she's been getting death threats, and apparently is afraid that her coworkers want her "head on a platter".Daily Mail
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 11 09:48:56 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 11 09:22:59 2011. It's really sad, because truthfully, the jury DID what they had to do. They probably also thought she was guilty, but that's not how it works, they can only go by what's presented to them. |
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Posted by R Pansepcc on Mon Jul 11 11:45:21 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 11 09:48:56 2011. Very true. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 11 12:45:47 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by R Pansepcc on Mon Jul 11 11:45:21 2011. And I have done a 180 on this, but the more I see, the more I see the jury did what they had to do, and the way they had to do it. They were not privy to a lot of the information that was being thrown around, and even if they were, they couldn't use it if it wasn't officially presented to them. They TOO probably knew she was guilty, just like everyone else, but unfortunately the prosecution wasn't able to prove it officially, and when that "shadow of a doubt" is there, they did what they had to do. It seems 10/2 within an hour they already had that decision. That says a lot. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 11 12:57:54 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 11 09:22:59 2011. This is just my candid opinion. It was a fucked up verdict. The bitch was clearly guilty. However, the prosecutors did not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. This is a civilized country and there is a court system. This mob mentality is not the answer. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jul 11 13:06:54 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Forest Glen on Mon Jul 11 12:57:54 2011. If "the prosecutors did not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt" then how are you so sure that "the bitch was clearly guilty"? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 11 13:26:36 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 11 09:22:59 2011. No sympathy. The chose expediency over doing the right thing. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jul 11 13:30:14 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 11 09:22:59 2011. These angry mobs are so moral and are such great role models with their street justice. Time Magazine is right, who needs a constitution. Let's just have mobs burn people in big bon fires. They are ruining their own cause. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jul 11 13:36:37 2011, in response to Re: Casey Anthony juror quits job and flees town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 11 13:26:36 2011. Within the law. Jurors are ORDERED that they can only use what is presented them IN THE case, and guidelines to find someone guilty, if it doesn't fit the criteria, they can't do it. |
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