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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 00:11:42 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Tue May 3 23:49:08 2011. If you knew anyone who did this kind of labor, you'd have a different attitude. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed May 4 00:14:34 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 00:11:42 2011. While I think that the law is ridiculous I do agree that it's not as east as people might think. Also nearly all of the people that do this type of work are women and a significant number of them are middle aged. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 00:16:18 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 00:08:56 2011. Actually here, you might be ON to something. Given what's been going on in this thread and the fact that I spent better than 15 years in political journalism, figured I'd toss on the hat for a few minutes since I've seen this trick many times before.As it turns out, deLeon is on the INSURANCE committee and is also on the health and labor committees. He's a freshman from 2010 from the San Diego area. He's trying to establish himself as a labor-friendly Hispanic advocate and so this angle is part of his political play. I can only add that after introducing this bill however, he just received some substantial campaign money from Kaiser Permanente and some other insurance companies all of which are in the worker's compensation market. I'll leave it there since I really don't want to waste the time reviewing the specific amounts ... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:52:39 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Tue May 3 23:09:24 2011. I agree.It's a pointless bill along the lines of some "Joint Resolution to Celebrate Our Hardworking Fennel Farmers" but legislatures do this all the time. At least they didn't make the Glock 19 the Official State Pistol. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:55:31 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Tue May 3 23:45:28 2011. It's insurance companies that are on the hook and want these bills. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:56:27 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 3 23:52:46 2011. I should have your post first. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 00:58:06 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:56:27 2011. Nah ... only reporters would bother following the money. Damned libruls. :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:58:21 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 3 23:45:11 2011. You would think differently if you were an insurance executive forced to pay out claims. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 01:17:02 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 00:16:18 2011. Actually here, you might be ON to something.Typical cheap shot. I'm always right. About everything. Yes, it makes sense to introduce this bill in California and to be honest, I hope it passes. Fitted sheets are easier to put on the bed, but harder to fold. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 01:20:38 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 01:17:02 2011. Always right? Geez ... you turned into Glenn Beck since last night? ;) |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed May 4 02:00:41 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:55:31 2011. I should know. I work in the auto insurance industry. At least we pay (most of the time). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 02:42:02 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:52:39 2011. Hardworking Fennel FarmersGIGGITY! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 03:10:20 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 3 23:58:10 2011. I guess this is a way to repay the Latino voters and all those who came out to support "Nicky the maid" against Meg Whitman.Ummm....no. This is the way to repay insurance company campaign contributors. Nobody cares about Lupe or Consuelo. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 03:44:32 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 03:10:20 2011. Yes, you have3 health insurance plans 2 citizenships 1 apartment in Long Island City but I think my assessment of the situation is more accurate than yours. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 05:26:11 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Tue May 3 21:41:32 2011.  Anyone who travels north on I-91 through Hartford passes the last Colt Armory which is now business/condo conversion. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 07:11:01 2011, in response to California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Dand124 on Tue May 3 17:32:27 2011. Sounds like the fitted sheet industry lobbied successfully for this.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:44:04 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 00:08:56 2011. And people don't think you are dead on in some topics. That's exactly correct. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 07:46:18 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 01:20:38 2011. Guys who say they're always right are like guys who say they have a lot of common sense. Empty.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:49:13 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 3 23:58:10 2011. I know it's hard work. I admire the work maids do in hotels. I even know a few. But this bill is ridiculous. It IS part of the job, just like every job has it's things required. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:50:39 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Easy on Wed May 4 00:14:34 2011. No one is saying it's "easy". We are saying the law is ridiculous, as like any job, it's part of the job description. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:51:39 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:55:31 2011. What's worse, is when you have a Democrat self-righteous law maker that is also involved in the insurance industry. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 4 08:51:10 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 01:20:38 2011. >>>>...you turned into Glenn Beck since last night?<<<<Worships the ground he walks on....LOL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 4 08:54:43 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 01:17:02 2011. >>>>>Typical cheap shot. I'm always right. About everything. <<<<HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL ROTFLMAO |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed May 4 10:31:47 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:50:39 2011. IAWTP...why is time being wasted on these "issues" rather than focusing on the IMPORTANT stuff like the budget deficit and lowering the unemployement rate. For crying out loud, what's up with the "let's require businesses to do A, B, and C just because" at a time when many businesses, especially smaller ones, can LEAST afford it?!It's frustrating, but oh well |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 10:46:30 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue May 3 23:48:30 2011. It's totally another thing when the means to avoid injury is available and NOT implemented. Fitted sheets have been around for a very long time. Long handled brushes have been around for a very long time. The cost differentials are negligible.There is NO reason on earth why these changes haven't been implemented (fitted sheets cost the same as flat, for example) in "industrial" settings such as hotels long ago, eliminating the need for a law. The argument against these changes is specious. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 12:12:25 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 10:46:30 2011. There's plenty of reasons why this hasn't been implemented. Fitted sheets are not interchageable, so it requires a whole other inventory. Second, the fitted sheets don't last as long, as the elastic wears out. Third, they aren't as tight on the bed, as after many washings (which hotel sheets are brutally subjected to), loosen up, and don't fit as tight, so they will require almost the same tucking as they get washed over and over. Fourth, you are making it sound like you have to lift the whole mattress up all the time. That's absurd. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 12:23:19 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 12:12:25 2011. They last as long and are as durable as flat. Industrial grade sheets are different than those you find at BB&B.Lifting a corner of a mattress still requires nearly the same force as lifting the whole thing. Try doing that 120 times, in fairly rapid succession. Scrub your bathroom 20 times and vacuum the floor a same number. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 12:42:52 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SMAZ on Wed May 4 00:58:21 2011. So according to you - no one should ever do any work because they might get hurt. Certainly, lets all be liberals and sit around and let everyone else pay us for nothing. Shut the fuck up already - asshole. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 12:47:04 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 12:42:52 2011. Tell the person who reads these posts to you to re-read that one and place accent on "insurance company".your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 12:47:43 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by TonyG on Tue May 3 19:50:28 2011. You're insane. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 12:49:24 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 12:47:04 2011. Fred, I understood what he said, perfectly. Perhaps you need to re-read what he wrote. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 12:59:33 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 12:12:25 2011. What these fat-assed liberals do not understand is that it's not long handle brushes or fitted vs flat sheets. It's do we need an idiotic law to regulate every aspect of our lives. They just don't get it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 14:07:29 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Train Dude on Wed May 4 12:59:33 2011. What those fatter assed conservatives don't realize is that employees are not slaves Had they spent the pennies to provide them with the tools they need to work with less physical stress, which leads to injury (not to mention higher costs for workmens compensation insurance), there would be NO REASON for laws like this to begin with. They just don't get it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:23:37 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 4 08:54:43 2011. Since we have to wait until Christmas for the LOL list, everybody's jumping up and down to get on this summer's Jacket list ... :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:24:16 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 07:46:18 2011. Now now ... don't be dragging terrorpin into this. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:26:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed May 4 10:31:47 2011. Freshman legislator, trying to make a name for themselves among their represented. Happens all the time ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:27:44 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 07:51:39 2011. The guy is a teacher who just got elected. He's on Insurance, health and labor committees. Apparently didn't have the smarts to figure out that he was getting set up and bought into the contents of the bill the lobbyists handed his noob staff. Saw this all the time every time there was a changing of the guard in smallbany. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:47:20 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 4 12:47:43 2011. You're inane. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:04:22 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 14:07:29 2011. They aren't "slaves", they get paid for their work. They are also not "entitled" to the job. If they don't want to put sheets on the bed, take a different job. Someone else will. This isn't "sweat shop" work, and there's nothing outrageus about asking the employee to put the sheets on the bed, and the sheets they want to use. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:05:52 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:04:22 2011. Yeahbut if they're logging workman's comp claims left and right, the insurance company is going to act. That's the only logic I see to this.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:06:55 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 12:23:19 2011. Scrub your bathroom 20 times and vacuum the floor a same number.If you aren't physically able to do the job, don't take the job. Ask a mason how many bricks he has to bend over and pick up in a day, if you don't like that either, don't take the job. As the roofer how many packages of shingles he has to bring up to the roof. Don't like it? Don't take the job. Ask the baker how many bags of flour she/he has to lug to the mixers. Don't like? Can't do it? don't take the job. And no, fitted sheets are NOT as durable as flat. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:07:48 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:26:22 2011. Great. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:08:18 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 14:27:44 2011. This is the kind of SHIT people really are tired of. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 19:09:38 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:05:52 2011. That's probably how it cam e about to begin with. There has to be a sufficient uproar to get a bill to begin with, support of a number of legislators to pass through committee, and usually bipartisan support to get it passed. So this is a bigger issue than the RWNBs want to make of it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 19:13:48 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:06:55 2011. Bakers, masons and roofers get paid triple (at minimum) what a hotel housekeeper gets. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:16:11 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 19:09:38 2011. Yeah a dozen old broads with backaches don't get bills passed. Aetna was watching money float out the door and said STOP.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 19:21:00 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 4 19:08:18 2011. Hate to break it to ya, but that one works both ways. They're all too busy fundraising and so lobbyists write up the bills and they put their name on the headline announcing it. Most on BOTH sides of the aisle never even bother to read the sausage they hand off to committee ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 19:23:25 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:16:11 2011. I spent some time on that one last night. Turns out that the insurance companies had been after several "hospitality" chains to do that voluntarily and they refused. Curious how nobody just canceled their coverage ... |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:25:20 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 19:23:25 2011. Yeah, cancel WC; you'd have to hire illegals to do.....wait!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 19:38:34 2011, in response to Re: California bill would mandate fitted, rather than flat, sheets on hotel beds, posted by Fred G on Wed May 4 19:05:52 2011. lets see some stats then if that potential reason is true. |
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