Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science

Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science (757828)	Home · Maps · About

Home > OTChat

[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]

[1 2]

Page 1 of 2

Next Page >

(757828)	view threaded
Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011 edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d This should rattle some feathers here, especially with our resident gay activist!! http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2011/03/23/liberals_they_blinded_us_with_science/page/full/ In response to my column last week about hormesis -- the theory that some radiation can be beneficial to humans -- liberals reacted with their usual open-minded examination of the facts. According to Noel Sheppard at Newsbusters, MSNBC's Ed Schultz devoted an entire segment to denouncing me. He called me toxic, accused me of spreading misinformation and said I didn't care about science. One thing Schultz did not do, however, was cite a single physicist or scientific study. I cited three physicists by name as well as four studies supporting hormesis in my column. For the benefit of liberals scared of science, I even cited The New York Times. It tells you something that the most powerful repudiation of hormesis Schultz could produce was the fact that a series of government agencies have concluded -- I quote -- that "insufficient human data on hormesis exists." Well, in that case, I take it all ba -– wait, no. That contradicts nothing I said in my column. Liberals should take up their quarrel with the physicists cited by both me and the Times. I'm sure the Harvard physics department will be fascinated to discover that the left's idea of the scientific method is to cling to their fears while hurling invective at anyone who proposes a novel thesis. The fact that liberals are so terrified of science that they chronically wet themselves wouldn't be half as annoying if they didn't go around boasting about their deep respect for science, especially compared to conservatives. Apparently this criticism is based on conservatives' skepticism about global warming -- despite the studies of distinguished research scientists Dr. Alicia Silverstone and Dr. Woody Harrelson. (In my case, it's only because I'm still waiting for liberals' global cooling theory from the '70s to come true.) The left's idea of "science" is that we should all be riding bicycles and using the Clivus Multrum composting latrines instead of flush toilets. Anyone who dissents, they say -- while adjusting their healing crystals for emphasis -- is "afraid of science." A review of the record, however, shows that time and again liberals have been willing to corrupt public policy and allow people to die in order to enforce the Luddite views of groups such as the Union of Concerned Scientists (original name, "Union of Concerned Activist Lawyers Who Took a Science Course in High School"). As I described in my book "Godless," both the government and the entire mainstream media lied about AIDS in the '80s by scaring Americans into believing that heterosexuals were as much at risk for acquiring AIDS as gays and intravenous drug users. The science had to be lied about so no one's feelings got hurt. In 1985, Life magazine's cover proclaimed: "NOW, NO ONE IS SAFE FROM AIDS." In 1987, U.S. News & World Report reported that AIDS was "finding fertile growth among heterosexuals." Also in 1987, Dr. Oprah Winfrey said that "research studies" predicted that "one in five heterosexuals could be dead from AIDS at the end of the next three years." In 1988, ABC's "20/20" claimed the CDC had discovered a shocking upsurge of heterosexual infections on college campuses. It struck no one as odd that 28 of the 30 infections had occurred in men (with alphabetized spice racks and at least three cats, one named Blanche). Two years later, CNN broadcast that same 1988 study, proclaiming: "A new report from CDC indicates that AIDS is on the rise on college campuses." A quarter-century later, and we're still waiting for the big heterosexual AIDS outbreak. But at least science achieved its primary purpose: AIDS was not stigmatized as a "gay disease." Scientific facts were ignored so that science would be nonjudgmental. That was more important than the truth. Liberal activists also gave us the alar scare in the late '80S based on the studies of world renowned chemist and national treasure Meryl Streep. Alar is a perfectly safe substance that had been used on apples since 1968 both to ripen and preserve the fruit. It made fresh fruit more accessible by allowing fruit pickers to make one sweep through the apple grove, producing ripe, fresh fruit to be distributed widely and cheaply. But after hearing the blood-chilling testimony of Streep, hysterical soccer moms across America hopped in their Volvos, dashed to their children's schools and ripped the apples from the little ones' lunch boxes. "Delicious, McIntosh and Granny Smith" were added to "Hitler, Stalin and Mao" as names that will live in infamy. The EPA proposed banning alar based on a study that involved pumping tens of thousands times more alar into rats than any human could possibly consume, and observing the results. The rats died -- of poisoning, not tumors – but the EPA banned it anyway. Poor people went back to eating Twinkies instead of healthy fresh fruit. Meanwhile, the World Health Organization advised against an alar ban and Europeans continued to eat fruit with alar in their nice warm houses powered by nuclear energy (halted in the U.S. thanks to the important work of Dr. Jackson Browne and Dr. Bonnie Raitt). Other scientific theories developed in the laboratories of personal injury lawyers and TV networks included the left's "cancer cluster" claim in the '80s. The Centers for Disease Control investigated 108 alleged "cancer clusters" that had occurred between 1961 to 1983 and found no explanation for them other than coincidence -- and a demonstrable proximity to someone with deep pockets. As Yale epidemiologist Michael Bracken explained: "Diseases don't fall evenly on every town like snow." Random chance will lead some areas to have higher, sometimes oddly higher, numbers of cancer. But just to be safe, we all better stop driving cars, eating off of clean dishes and using aerosol sprays. Some of the other scientific studies and innovations that make liberals cry are: vaccines, IQ studies, breast implants and DDT. After decades of this nonsense, The New York Times' Paul Krugman has the audacity to brag that liberals believe the "truth should be determined by research, not revelation." Yes -- provided the "research" is conducted by trial lawyers and Hollywood actresses rather than actual scientists.
Post a New Response

(757830)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Sun Mar 27 08:30:35 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Typical leftist Democrat reporting!
Post a New Response

(757837)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AMoreira81* on Sun Mar 27 08:53:10 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And this is where Ann Coulter does a great job of digging a hole...as I said on Human Events last week when it appeared (before that turned into a sausage-fest as all of her posts do), physicists are not qualified to speak on this subject. She talked to physicists, but no biologists, amazingly, and expected it to fly over my head. Coulter talked to physicists, which is all nice and okay, but only an oncologist can tell you about the effects it will have on your body. Like her prior article, Coulter also did not qualify different types of radiation. Including the opinion of an oncologist, who can tell you what kinds of radiation are good (⁶⁰Co, usually used in cancer treatment) and what isn't (²³⁹Pu, of uranium radiation), would have gone a long way. I guess Ann Coulter expected the left to call her names, instead of showing flaws in the arugment. Stick to politics.
Post a New Response

(757841)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 09:12:12 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 08:53:10 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nazis will do anything to advance their lies. The fact that the Republicans and their corrupt ideology aren't illegal is proof enough that the American People are too stupid for their form of government.
Post a New Response

(757843)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayMan* on Sun Mar 27 09:17:59 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Maybe Ann should have read my post here (yeah right), where I, affirmed liberal, defended her. I will not deny liberals can be less than scientific and Coulter has actually done a great job of pointing out many of the cases where liberals resorted to knee-jerk reaction, jingoism and dogma rather than relying on scientific data -- this is why I admit that there are plenty of crazies on the Left. These issues include nuclear power -- which despite the events in Japan and the two previous nuclear incidents has demonstrated itself to be a safe, reliable and clean energy supply (I'd rather live next to a nuclear power plant than a coal plant; and as it happens I do, with Millstone being less than 25 miles to the south), cancer clusters (statistical flukes), and of course, IQ -- both within race differences (which why everyone can't be average) and between race differences (which is why the "achievement gap" can't be closed -- even if blacks and Latinos improve, for the gap to disappear whites and E. Asians have to not improve -- and then what about the Jews?). Bill Maher hammered Coulter on this point, a point where was hinting at something that was technically correct: (At about 4:09) The point is that there are plenty of examples of liberals being less-than-wholly-scientific for sake of what is the current political convention. This is why I occasionally endorse positions that are traditionally "conservative", because my politics is dictated by fact, not by what is politically in vogue. That being said, there is no question that when it comes to flushing down science in favor of politics, the Right takes the cake. Just because people on the political Left endorse some unscientific things doesn't mean that global warming is suddenly a hoax. And to contrary to Coulter, EVERYONE DOES NEED TO FEAR AIDS (who is sexually active or has exchanged bodily fluids in some way). That is not incompatible with the fact that AIDS is more prevalent among gays than heterosexuals (it is also more prevalent among blacks than other racial groups).
Post a New Response

(757844)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AlM* on Sun Mar 27 09:22:51 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I actually looked at the NY Times article she cited, because she was making some pretty strong claims. It simply didn't say what she claimed.
Post a New Response

(757858)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Easy* on Sun Mar 27 10:30:54 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What a lame defense. I agree about "left" science but that has nothing to do with her assertion. And not that she was wrong about radiation, I really don't know. But the nuclear event isn't yet over. It's a little early to predict the consequences.
Post a New Response

(757864)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 10:43:08 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 27 10:30:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d She said nothing about radiation. She cited Harvard physicists and the New York Times science section, saying they were advancing the theory of "radiation hormesis". Did you see the video?
Post a New Response

(757866)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 10:47:00 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 10:43:08 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Assholes like you are the reason that the EU holds the keys to the future, despite the British Isles holding them back.
Post a New Response

(757867)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 10:54:04 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 27 08:30:35 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Even when the video completely contradicted what they were saying, they still cited it. The sad thing is, the doublethink-planting attempt actually worked on a great number of people in spite of hearing Coulter's actual words . . .
Post a New Response

(757875)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by R30A* on Sun Mar 27 11:23:02 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 27 09:22:51 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Coulter is a big leader of the CWAR.
Post a New Response

(757877)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Fred G* on Sun Mar 27 11:26:20 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by R30A on Sun Mar 27 11:23:02 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Conservative War Against Reality (or Reason)? your pal, Fred
Post a New Response

(757878)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by R30A* on Sun Mar 27 11:29:52 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Fred G on Sun Mar 27 11:26:20 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The former, although I also like the latter.
Post a New Response

(757879)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AlM* on Sun Mar 27 11:40:41 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 10:43:08 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d But she totally misrepresented the Times' article. The Times noted a study of lower cancer rates than average in an apartment building that had accidentally been built with radioactive cobalt in it. They then noted that the population of the apartment building was very young and therefore low cancer rates are expected. This is not exactly an endorsement of her theory.
Post a New Response

(757883)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 11:50:54 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d When the notorious Life magazine cover ran in the summer of 1985 (I remember it well), there was a scare that the HIV virus had mutated and become airborne--which, if true, would have meant humanity was suddnly facing the greatest plague since the Middle Ages. There would have been (and to some extent, there was) a immediate, extremely violent backlash against gays, which would have done nothing to slow the spead of the disease. That gay men, especially gay men of color, are still the majority of people living with HIV and AIDS are down to several factors, none of which Ms. Coulter addresses or dares to acknowledge. The main reasons for this include: Lack of access to HIV/AIDS prevention education among gay men. the New York City Department of Health and Gay Men's Health Crisis (GMHC) spend tons of their own money every year to do on-site rapid HIV testing, widespread advertising on prevention, condom and other prophylactic distribution, and clinical research. But it's not nearky enough, the incidence of new infections is still rising annually in the city. Let's not forget, this is just NYC. The federal Centers for Disease Control has reported that new HIV infections among heterosexuals is climbing sharply as well, and that this, too, is due to the message about prevention failing to get through. Social stigmatization of LGBTs is another big reason the HIV epidemic continues to haunt us, more than 30 years after it began. Homophobia and institutionalized pathologization of homosexuality in churches, schools, the mainstream media, and even at home, continues to force millions of people into the closet, where messages about HIV prevention don't reach them. If you are getting emotionally kicked in the teeth all the time, over who you are sexually attracted to, who you love, and who you are, you will often fight the pain by "self-medicating" with alcohol or drugs. In such a diminished state, you won't be thinking about safe sex when you have sex. Hatred is still the biggest HIV dieease vector of them all. Finally, HIV patients atre not sympathetic figures to those who make budgetary decisions. Coulter gratuitously says "scientific facts wrre ignored", without citing a single study or peer-reviewed academic paper to support her assertion. Funding is what cures diseases--and in today's economy, funding for HIV research is at an all-time low, dollar for dollar. Coulter also only cites articles and CDC reports from over two decades ago, when HIV was still poorly understood, and public hysteria over it was at a new high. Without funding, the face of HIV will continue to appear gay and minority for the foreseeable future. But there's one telling fact Coulter won't ever admit to: it's still true today, that HIV is such a loathsome disease, that when straight, often wealthy, people--particularly men--die of AIDS, theur families bring pressure to bear, so that the cause of death for these people becomes "cancer" or "heart failure"--anything except AIDS. That, too, has been going on for 30 years.
Post a New Response

(757886)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Mar 27 12:00:41 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 11:50:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d LOL
Post a New Response

(757888)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 12:14:21 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 27 12:00:41 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Oh, by the way, Luch, since you continue to deride me as the "captain of the York College debating team", at which college or university were you educated? Since you mock York, a four-year, baccalaureate-degree-issuing college, and other CUNY schools, I'm expecting you be an Ivy League grad, with an advanced degree, at best... I was educated at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, where I studied under former NYPD Commissioiners Codd and Ward, and later received an MFA from Pace.
Post a New Response

(757890)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Mar 27 12:18:29 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:14:21 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d John Jay College of Criminal Justice, of course you were. that comes as no surprise to me. I never mock Hunter, Queens, or Baruch.
Post a New Response

(757893)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 12:29:03 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 27 12:18:29 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What college or university did you attend, Luch?
Post a New Response

(757895)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by BMTLines* on Sun Mar 27 12:35:54 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 11:50:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I am simply surprised and dismayed that an all out effort has not been made to find a cure (think Manhattan project or getting a man on the moon)... THESE are the things that government should be involved in
Post a New Response

(757898)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 12:40:09 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by BMTLines on Sun Mar 27 12:35:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d A promising new therapy, which succesfully cured an American ex-pat in Berlin of HIV, involves stem-cell therapy, which, of course, was criminalized in the US by President George W. Bush...
Post a New Response

(757899)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Chris R16/R2730* on Sun Mar 27 12:40:35 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You don't fuck with Ann Coulter. If you want to fight her, you BETTER have the facts and figures to back up your arguments. Because she WILL have hers.
Post a New Response

(757900)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 12:41:23 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 27 12:40:35 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d But in this case, she doesn't, especially on HIV/AIDS...
Post a New Response

(757901)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by LuchAAA* on Sun Mar 27 12:45:12 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:29:03 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I graduated from Baruch, if it matters. I am mocking your liberalism. York, John Jay, CCNY are all radical militant liberal schools.
Post a New Response

(757902)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by R30A* on Sun Mar 27 12:46:19 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:41:23 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d She is a CWAR leader! She has facts for everything, they are just all made up.
Post a New Response

(757904)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 12:47:12 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 27 12:45:12 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I rather doubt that.
Post a New Response

(757907)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 12:53:20 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 27 12:45:12 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d John Jay is hardly a "liberal" school, much less a "radical militant liberal" school. When I was there in the early '80s, it was called "liberal" too, but several NYPD executives were on the faculty in spite of this. I recall Commissioners Codd and McGuire as hardliners, and Rudy Guiliani even taught a symposium there in my junior year. He was a big advocate of treating Mafiosi like terrorists, which he believed they were. Ditto CCNY, which to my knowledge, has always been right-of-center.
Post a New Response

(757908)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 13:21:49 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Mar 27 10:47:00 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What's your scientific degree? The only thing the EU holds the keys to is another world war.
Post a New Response

(757910)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 13:27:41 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 27 11:40:41 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d But she totally misrepresented the Times' article Did she now? I noticed you didn't link it. The Times noted a study of lower cancer rates than average in an apartment building that had accidentally been built with radioactive cobalt in it. They then noted that the population of the apartment building was very young and therefore low cancer rates are expected. This is not exactly an endorsement of her theory What is her "theory"?
Post a New Response

(757912)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 13:29:44 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by R30A on Sun Mar 27 12:46:19 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d proff?
Post a New Response

(757914)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Dand124* on Sun Mar 27 13:30:21 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:40:09 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d stem-cell therapy, which, of course, was criminalized in the US by President George W. Bush... that's not true
Post a New Response

(757915)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 13:39:59 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:53:20 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d When I was there in the early '80s, it was called "liberal" too, but several NYPD executives were on the faculty in spite of this What does that mean? That fact doesn't de-liberalize the place.
Post a New Response

(757916)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 13:46:21 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 27 13:30:21 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yes, it is. GWB banned stem-cell research here, and Obama has been moving to reverse that, littkle by little.
Post a New Response

(757917)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 13:46:22 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 13:21:49 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d you're an idiot. The EU is the future guarantor of peace.
Post a New Response

(757918)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Sun Mar 27 13:47:29 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 13:39:59 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d JJC is not a liberal place, then or now. Trust me on this.
Post a New Response

(757919)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 13:48:23 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 27 13:30:21 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d LOSERtarian, just PAY YOUR TAXES and STFU.
Post a New Response

(757920)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Dand124* on Sun Mar 27 13:48:44 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 13:46:21 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d He didn’t ban stem cell research; he opposed federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.
Post a New Response

(757921)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 13:50:08 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 27 13:48:44 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Atlas just needs a special collar to keep him from shrugging. remember, he goes down too.
Post a New Response

(757923)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Sun Mar 27 14:02:54 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 13:29:44 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d the left doesnt believe in facts that dont fit their needs.
Post a New Response

(757926)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by TonyG* on Sun Mar 27 14:04:48 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 27 14:02:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I generally have so much respect for you, than you make statements like this that question that respect.
Post a New Response

(757928)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Mar 27 14:16:59 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Mar 27 14:02:54 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I presume that Mike Wallace will lead with that statement on "60 Minutes" - like we are unaware of this.
Post a New Response

(757929)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Train Dude* on Sun Mar 27 14:19:15 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 27 12:40:09 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d George W. Bush refused funding on research of the least promising form of Stem-Cell therapies. To date - he's not been proven wrong in his judgment.
Post a New Response

(757949)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Mitch45* on Sun Mar 27 15:22:32 2011, in response to Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 27 08:13:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d A right winger citing to science? I thought RW's hated science? Now I don't know what to think. I'm going to have a nap.
Post a New Response

(757951)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AMoreira81* on Sun Mar 27 15:30:28 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 27 12:40:35 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And I do have the facts and figures to do so---from oncologists. The people she interviews are not qualified to speak on what they do. It's a science thing; Coulter would not understand.
Post a New Response

(757952)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AMoreira81* on Sun Mar 27 15:31:44 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 13:29:44 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The radiation part which she harps on from her previous article, for one. Cobalt-60 = good in small doses. Plutonium-239 = horrible in even small doses. Also, she claims that liberals caused the bans of substances that could have been beneficial...when government does not work that way.
Post a New Response

(757961)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 15:54:51 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 15:31:44 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The radiation part which she harps on from her previous article, for one. Cobalt-60 = good in small doses. Plutonium-239 = horrible in even small doses I don't think you're being very clear. Not that you know too much about anything, but like to make a lot of stuff up, I noticed. Besides, Pu-239 has to be at critical mass to emit ionizing radiation. On top of that, plutonium in nuclear reactors is a mix of 242, 240, 239 and 238, and if reprocessed, is usually in the form of MOX fuel. Also, she claims that liberals caused the bans of substances that could have been beneficial...when government does not work that way Haha. (You're joking, right?)
Post a New Response

(757962)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Mar 27 15:56:42 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 27 15:30:28 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I do have the facts and figures to do so---from oncologists Show them. Oh and BTW, oncologists are not universally qualified to make such judgments. The people she interviews are not qualified to speak on what they do "People she interviews" . . . ? Who did she interview in this instance? Do you just dedicate yourself to make confused post after confused post?
Post a New Response

(757965)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by AMoreira81* on Sun Mar 27 16:02:54 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 15:54:51 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d On that last point, I am absolutely not joking.
Post a New Response

(757966)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by RockParkMan* on Sun Mar 27 16:04:41 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 27 15:56:42 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You are the one who's always confused.
Post a New Response

(757989)	view threaded
Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Mar 27 17:39:28 2011, in response to Re: Ann Coulter: They Blinded Us With Science, posted by TonyG on Sun Mar 27 14:04:48 2011.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And then he claims he's not a right-winger.
Post a New Response

[1 2]
	Page 1 of 2	Next Page >

[ Return to the Message Index ]