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Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 06:34:47 2011

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Two Kansas state legislators--one republican, the other a Democrat--have successfully carried a motion to keep homosexuality a crime in that state, despite a 2003 Supreme Court ruling making such state laws unconstitutional. The lawmakers, Jan Pauls (D-Hutchinson), a former judge, and Lance Kinzer (R-Olathe), said before the state's Corrections and Juvemile Justice Committee, that homosexuality should be kept on the books as a crime in Kansas.

Just in case anyone had the slightest doubt about whether this was an oversight, or a misunderstanding, listen to the words of John Wheeler, the president of the state's District Attorneys' association:

“Even to this day, homosexuality is a crime in Kansas."

Wheeler made those comments in 2008, a full five years after the Supreme court ruled in Lawrence v. Texas, and his remarks were made before a collegiate audience. Although such laws are technically unenforceable, the deliberate effort to keep them on the books is both chilling, and a very clear message by Kansas to its gays and lesbians: "You are unacceptable, criminal, and we will make every effort to hasten the day when we can start throwing you in jail again, just because of who you are and who you love".

DISCLAIMER for Terrapin Station: I am not a lawyer, Kansas state representative, or district attorney. The factual statements in my post are a matter of public record. This is not legal or academic advice.



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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 06:40:14 2011, in response to Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 06:34:47 2011.

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Seriously, what is up with all the disclaimers? You brought the need to use them upon yourself if you ask me.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 07:04:39 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 06:40:14 2011.

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The disclaimers are because of constant ridicule from YOU, Terrapin Station and a couple of others. YOU brought the need for me to use such disclaimers, because YOU, TS, and others cannot refrain from making smears, persoinal attacks, or childish insinuations that I cannot read or comprehend the English language. To head off these constant insults, I have elected to make very clear that my posts are opinion where noted, and factual where indicated, supoorted by other sources. YOU have made it necessary for ME to do this.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 10 07:13:33 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 07:04:39 2011.

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that I cannot read or comprehend the English language.

But you can't. So they aren't smears, persoinal [sic] attacks, or childish insinuations, rather they are the truth.


YOU have made it necessary for ME to do this.

No, you brought it on yourself because you post opinion as fact and you get your facts wrong. I think it is very good that you are posting these disclaimers now as hopefully it will help you discern between fact and fiction. We'll see.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 07:15:27 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 07:04:39 2011.

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Questioning highly disputable "facts", which is all I've done, seems legit to me, especially because your supposed sources often don't support the "facts" you post (i.e. the number of protesters in Tahrir Square). I can't vouch for what TS and others have done with regard to Rick Warren, but in reading those threads, it seems that they have a better grasp on the situation than you do.

I'm still waiting for a reply to this post, and I'm sure others are too.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 10 07:20:09 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 07:15:27 2011.

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IAWTP

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 07:36:52 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 10 07:13:33 2011.

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YOU are a constant source of ridicule, flame wars, and scorn on this board. Many, many SubCatters have tried to help you see the error of your ways, your delusional rantings, and your vile, outright hostility towards so many posters here. You have made no attempt to change your behavior, or acknowledge you are often crude, boorish, and sometimes just plain wrong in your assertions. You make ouright personal attacks on people (sometimes even in thread titles), and when threafds go in directions you don't like, you promptly have them reefed, while the rest of us have to live with your abuse.

Recent, written, factual examples of your incredibly abusive attitude are to be found:

here, here, here, and here.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 10 08:03:59 2011, in response to Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 06:34:47 2011.

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Kansas, however, can't enforce it. But unlike Texas' law, it applies to both homosexual and heterosexual buggery, as well as fellatio, so I can imagine Kansas making a 14th Amendment case to try to keep its law in force (using Sandra Day O' Connor's concurrence).

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 08:10:31 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 10 08:03:59 2011.

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According to Kansas Equality, the police in many places in that state routinely arrest gays on Friday, so they have to sit in jail all weekend until Monday, when a judge bangs the gavel and orders them released. It's apparently a harassment tool used by the police to intimidate gays and lesbians. Such harassment sounds like a good project for the ACLU.

As for Texas' law, it was the subject of the SCOTUS decision itself, and is similarly unenforeceable. This, however, doesn't stop Texas, like Kansas, from using it as an "enforcement tool" by the police...

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 08:31:14 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 08:10:31 2011.

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You can be arrested if a heterosexual couple is "doing it" in the car on the side of the road too.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 08:35:20 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 08:10:31 2011.

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The gay "hook up" spots are often public places, such as parks, public bathrooms, and so forth. For example, on Long Island, at the Vietnam War Memorial Park in Bald Hill in Holtsville, the parking lot and park was used for a while for gays to hook up for sex, so eventually the cops did a sting and arrested a lot of the people involved. The same with bathrooms. You could just as easily be arrested for heterosexual activity in the same spots, but people don't usually look for anonymous hook ups in parks and bathrooms (I am sure guys would love to, but you don't usually having the women obliging). Of course, there are other places where hookers are of course, but that's a whole other story, as that's prostitution then, not just anonymous hook ups.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by orange blossom special on Thu Mar 10 08:51:45 2011, in response to Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 06:34:47 2011.

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Kinda like that healthcare law, except they aren't granting waivers to Homosexual people to be exempt from these laws eh.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayMan on Thu Mar 10 08:58:56 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 08:10:31 2011.

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Hit the nail on the head there. Message from Middle America: F!ck your Constitution!

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 10:22:00 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 08:31:14 2011.

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I would wholeheatredly agree with you if the law was strictly for prohibition of public sex, gay or straight (there are already other laws against this in every state, forbidding public sexual activity by anyone). But anti-homosexuality laws, like Kansas', prohibit gay or lesbian sex, period. It is illegal in Kansas and Texas, to name just two states (there are others) to have "sexual relations with a person of the same gender". These laws have been used to arrest gays, not just in their homes or other private places, but for such "sex offenses" as holding hands or kissing in public.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 10:27:36 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 08:35:20 2011.

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Straight people don't have to hide their sexuality for fear of societal retaliation, which is one reason you donb't see straight people looking for anonymous sex in the park. I don't condone public sex by gays or lesbians, mainly because I agree that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander--if straight people are forbidden from public sex, gays and lesbians should be, too. But, again, the Kansas (and Texas) laws are designed to prohibit all gay/lesbian sexual relations, whether public or in the privacy of a home. These laws have even been used to interpret public identification of oneself as LGBT as an offense.

Both states specifically single out sex between persons of the same gender as an offense.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 10:29:07 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayMan on Thu Mar 10 08:58:56 2011.

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I think so, too. This motion by the Kansas legislators is a direct message to LGBTs in Kansas that they are criminals, no matter what the Constitution or the Supreme Court say.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 10:46:24 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 10:27:36 2011.

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Straight people don't have to hide their sexuality for fear of societal retaliation, which is one reason you donb't see straight people looking for anonymous sex in the park.


Please. That has NOTHING to do with whether people "hide or don't hide" their sexuality.
You don't see them looking for sex in parks because women don't usually just go for anonymous sex like that. (Prostitution is different, that's for money, and a whole other topic). The male sex drive is VERY different than the female drive. The male sex drive is the same whether a male is normal or a homosexual. Basically, males want to have sex all the time. And when you have gays, it's two male sex drives. In the case of male/female, it's the female drive that keeps the male drive in check. It's much easier for gays to fund a will partner for sex, as you have two male sex drives in play.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 10:54:46 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 10:46:24 2011.

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But it doesn't necessarily follow that the male sex drive means gays must seek public sex. Just like straight couples get rooms if they can't have sex at home, so, too can gay couples.

As for women not "going for anonymous sex like that", trust me, many women DO, if my EMS career is any indicator. We used to occasionally get called to the park to treat the kinds of cuts and bruises you get from having sex on the rough ground or against a tree, and there were plenty of women (not working girls, mind you), just because it's a novel thing to try. (Consider the 'Mile High Club' involving sex on airplanes, usually in the lav, or straight couples having sex on subway trains, which I myself have seen a couple of times, late at night.)

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EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 14:12:28 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 07:36:52 2011.

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You've responded to plenty of posts in this thread and in others over the past 8 days. When are you going to answer this question???

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:18:48 2011, in response to EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 14:12:28 2011.

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OK, let's begin with this post by Caseyjim. His words are not open to contextual interpretation, parsing, or "comprehension". He is very clear about his position on gays and their just punishments.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 10 14:21:14 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:18:48 2011.

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Dude, he's obviously a troll. Someone not to be taken seriously. Can you name any regular members here instead?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 10 14:23:58 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:18:48 2011.

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The late "Caseyjim" (he died back in 2009) did that merely to troll.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:30:12 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Mar 10 14:21:14 2011.

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Edwards, recently:

"God does not hate the homosexual, he haytes the spirit of homosexuality that hides behind it"

"GOD is the GOD of LOVE...and of VENGEANCE."

Edwards tries to qualify his remarks, but I see God's "vengeance" linked to God's "hatred of the 'spirit of homosexuality'"...I don't think such strong words are open to much parsing or interpretation.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:32:52 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 10 14:23:58 2011.

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Nowhere in that entire thread is there the slightest indication trhat this was caseyjim's actual intent in posting his screed, so how, exactly, do you know he was "trolling"?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:32:30 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:18:48 2011.

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So you have to go back to 2008 of a troll who isn't even alive anymore, to find a post of a claim you made the other day?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:34:56 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:32:30 2011.

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Ummm, I also linked to Edwards' post of last October, right in this thread.

Whether a poster is alive, or when he made his post, does not change his words.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:35:10 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:32:52 2011.

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And how does this apply to your post that you made the other day stating "No, but several on this board apparently do."?? You had to go back 3 years to a post that was made by someone that is dead, so not even "on the board" anymore. That couldn't POSSIBLY be who you meant when you said "No, but several on this board apparently do".

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Mar 10 15:37:08 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:34:56 2011.

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I'm still not convinced by your answers, and I don't seem to be alone. Keep trying.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:38:02 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:34:56 2011.

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You said, "No, but several on this board apparently do.". How is a dead person that died two years ago, and made a post three years ago "apparently people on this board"? "Several" people quote unquote.
Someone who is dead, and for a few years already isn't "on this board".
And where is this post by Edwards you speak of linked to? Doesn't count as 'apparently several" either, but I haven't seen his post you speak of.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:44:28 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:35:10 2011.

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There are those on this board, living and dead, who have expressed support for religious and/or divine punishment of gays.

When I do post proof that people have said things like this, you suddenly come uyp with disqualifiers like "He's dead" or "he posted that years ago". What about Edwards!, who, as of today, is presumably alive, and expressed his views that gays are subject to God's punishment, more than once, last October, in the very thread caseyjim started?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:59:52 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:38:02 2011.

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Edwards!, October 2010:

'[God] does not hate the homosexual, he hates the spirit of homosexuality behind it', 'God is a God of love...and of vengeance'.

'[God's] hatimg the homosexual spirit?...his judging the world?'

'Man should not lay with man...as with women'

PLUS:

Here is Scrabbleship, couching his language by saying it shouldn't be done to gays here, but follows this by condoning radical Islam's approach to criminal justice, which includes executing gays based on Sharia law.



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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:03:50 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:59:52 2011.

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Okay. And how does posts of his religious beliefs make him relevant to the question posed to you:

Do you support religious laws that would criminalize and severely punish your chosen lifestyle?



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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:07:02 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:03:50 2011.

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No, I don't. Being gay is not, BTW, a "chosen lifestyle", it's the way I was born.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:07:20 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 15:59:52 2011.

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And Scrabbleship? Isn't this the lost dude troll that says Christians are the devil, wishes that he was born Jewish, and thinks Canada is the promised land?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:09:55 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:07:02 2011.

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Okay, and I totally agree with you.
But I don't see how Edwards' post said he wants laws that inhibit people's lifestyle, which was the question posed to you when you answered, "No, but apparently several people here do". I'll pose it again, Who? I didn't see Edwards proposing that in any of those posts.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:12:52 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:09:55 2011.

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Edwards alludes to religious judgment of the "Homosexual spirit" in people, by a "God of vengeance", and reiterates his Biblical interpretation of religious law, that "man shall not lay with man".

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:15:27 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:12:52 2011.

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Okay. But that is what he believes religiously. Where did he say there should be secular laws against it?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:15:28 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:07:20 2011.

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Whether Scrabbleship is a "lost dude troll" or not, is irrelevant. He condoned radical Islamic law, which provides for the execution of gays abd lesbians. Those were his words. I said there are those here who support religious punishment for gays and lesbians.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Mar 10 16:15:33 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:32:30 2011.

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troll

How kind of you.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:19:26 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:15:27 2011.

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"God is a God of...vengeance"...this suggests there is divine, or religious, punishment awaiting gays and lesbians. Historically, this has been interpreted to mean that people may carry out God's divine retribution against gays, and it happens every day.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 10 16:34:32 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:07:20 2011.

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Actually, he says everyone is garbage.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:37:46 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 16:19:26 2011.

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Hello, you still didn't answer the question. He stated his religious beliefs. Where did he say he "believes there should be laws limiting what people do with their personal lives"....?

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:39:49 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Mar 10 16:15:33 2011.

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In describing some of the tripe Scrabbleship has posted, then, yes that was quite kind. This is one of his milder posts. Some of them border on the rants of a madman.

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=248796

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:41:54 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 10 16:34:32 2011.

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Yes, except Jews and Canadians.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Mar 10 16:44:51 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 16:39:49 2011.

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No, I'm talking about that low blow you made towards a dead man.

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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Mar 10 16:48:15 2011, in response to Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 06:34:47 2011.

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Perhaps they are following the Presiden't lead. Obamacare was declared unconstitutional, and it didn't deter them.



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Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 10 17:12:13 2011, in response to Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Mar 10 16:48:15 2011.

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That decision was appealed.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 11 00:26:00 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:30:12 2011.

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Eh, borderline. No. He wouldn't make it criminal. He's just a bitchasshat. Please try again though.

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 11 00:26:59 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 10 15:35:10 2011.

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+666

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Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Mar 11 00:27:37 2011, in response to Re: EARTH TO JAYZEEBMT Re: Defying SCOTUS, Kansas Keeps Anti-Gay Laws On The Books, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 10 14:32:52 2011.

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Um, it's obvious. Seriously.

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