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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:54:12 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:52:34 2011. Let me ask you a hypothetical question? If you really believed in something, and you had a tool at your disposal to help you accomplish that goal, would you use it?That's all that these people are doing. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:54:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:45:28 2011. With 12% of all Americans in unions, I doubt that any state is truely pro-union any more. Large unions keep the elected officials pro-union with large contributions. So we know what the contributors want - not what the constituents want. Sad fact is that people vote in the following prioritized order.1) Party 2) Name recognition 3) Issues The sad fact is that while many may believe one way on an issue, they are voting in the opposite direction because of the 1 & 2. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:54:31 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:29:32 2011. Heh. And you have to go back 150 years to make your point. Meanwhile, when someone brings you an argument, if it's more than two weeks ago ... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 18:54:33 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:47:23 2011. And you are missing the point that Wisconsin Senate rules of debate are different from the US Senate's. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:55:00 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:52:08 2011. Yup, that's exactly what I said in this post earlier. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:55:51 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:50:28 2011. IINM his view was that blacks would not be able to assimilate into white society, a view that was shared by many Americans. I've also read that while he considered slavery wrong, he didn't view blacks as equal to whites.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:56:26 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:49:45 2011. Another one of Smaz's mental meltdowns. You have to forgive him |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:56:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:46:35 2011. Only had one once, and it was ecstasy. California can't pizza, but we can't taco. Pity that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:56:37 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:52:16 2011. I'm on the fence. I don't think that anyone should get an abortion, but I don't know that it's the governments job to prevent them from doing so. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:57:03 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 26 18:44:36 2011. Bruno Sammartino was teh pwnage.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:57:13 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:17:10 2011. The same people that over the prior two years criticized the filibuster are the exact same ones that now support these coward fleebaggers. Hypocrites. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:57:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:22:31 2011. It's not good then, and it's not good now, and I called it out BOTH times. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:58:20 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 18:50:35 2011. They had good PSA's back then. There was one with a father and son where the father smokes and by the end of the commercial the kid is emulating smoking.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:59:04 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:35:05 2011. Where was fillibuster used in the last two years when the Democrats were doing what the Republicans are doing now? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:59:08 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:57:03 2011. lol. I remember him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:59:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:52:16 2011.  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:59:37 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:48:41 2011. You had to check? lol.Nah ... he coulda been a pilot. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:59:59 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:39:59 2011. The point was made "what if the Republicans" had done this over the last two years when the Democrats were legislating their liberal Disneyland over the prior two years, |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 19:00:06 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:33:12 2011. That's because they were astutely marketed to them as a symbol of blackness.To white women too. White men had stuff like Camels, Marlboros and Winstons marketed to them. Ironically, blacks have lower smoking rates than whites. Menthols are even more damaging than regular cigarettes. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:00:20 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:55:51 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:00:46 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 26 18:46:38 2011. Should not democrats be in Illinois?Your move. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:01:45 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:49:08 2011. She was attending some governator lovefest thingy. In the greater scheme of political entropy, she could have stayed home and baked some nutraloaf. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:02:00 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 18:32:31 2011. . They're standing up for what their constituents elected them to do.Oh Really? Stats please of what their constituents want in this. Thanks. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 19:02:08 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:51:02 2011. They haven't forgiven them over the Civil War and the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments either. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Feb 26 19:02:12 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 18:54:33 2011. Not missing any point. The point is that they cannot move forward until they get this business out of the way. New legislation can be proposed and let the voters choose. You are not going to solve anything by letting the state shut down and haveing to start laying off those same workers. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:02:22 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:55:00 2011. I agree, unwanted is unwanted. Better to abort than to abuse or abandon after birth.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:02:57 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:45:02 2011. Huh? Wasn't she working in DC? When did she abandon her state and what she was supposed to be doing in Arizona and hide in DC? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:03:55 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 18:54:12 2011. That's pretty broad. Let's just say that I can't think of any circumstances where I would do what they are doing if I were in their position. But I have this thing about rules. I follow them. And not just the letter of the rule, but the spirit of the rule. I don't often look for loopholes. I think that is character. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:04:16 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:56:37 2011. I'm not on the fence. A coat hanger and a bathtub is all one needs to abort the fetus. It's not safe by any means and it was a problem prior to Roe v. Wade. Abortion will not go away just because the govt says no.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:04:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 18:52:34 2011. The republican filibusters in deecee sure DID work. They turned a pretty decent healthcare bill into garbage, they stopped what could have been a much more useful stimulus into too little too late with another year in the hole for the country, they added a TRILLION dollars to the deficit in order to continue tax cuts for people who neither needed nor wanted it, and of many other really bad things. Don't undersell filibusters, they kept socialism from washing up in Georgetown. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:06:36 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:57:13 2011. Everybody criticizes the filibuster, at least both parties have and still do, depending on what side of one they're on.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:06:42 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:02:22 2011. lots of abused and neglected children in americamany begging for adoption and never get adopted |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:06:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 18:54:33 2011. I suppose we could solve the problem and the deficit by putting up a postage paid envelope so that those who feel so strongly about trashing unions and pensions can send THEIR pensions back to balance the state budget deficit. After all, people should be willing to back up their rhetoric personally. What are the chances of THAT? :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:08:16 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 18:55:51 2011. That sounds about right. I wonder what he would say now? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:09:13 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:59:04 2011. They don't filibuster when there are enough votes for cloture.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:09:17 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:50:46 2011. Hopefully they'll find a cure soon for you guys. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:09:18 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:06:36 2011. Because it's a waste of time, but it's never actually worked has it? It only delays things temporarily. Nothing like Wisconsin. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:09:45 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:01:45 2011. How is doing governor business in DC not business in Washington? Don't governors always attend things like that in DC? How is that "fleeing" her constituency, did she purposely ignore meetings she was supposed to be at in Arizona? |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:09:56 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:06:42 2011. People don't want to adopt unless it's a last resort. Generally people only want their own kids. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:10:05 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:59:59 2011. The probably didn't bother because the Democrats had enough votes for cloture.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 19:10:38 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:23:26 2011. How was it good on one side, and when was it used over the last two years when the shoe was on the other foot? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 26 19:11:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 18:54:31 2011. and if he really insists on his argument, it will only make Danny Trejo happy. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:11:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:06:42 2011. True that, and that's something you don't hear about.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:12:29 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 26 19:09:56 2011. but many want to force birth |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:12:41 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:02:22 2011. I would be fine with them being born. Maybe more education was needed and programs to assist expectant mothers. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:12:55 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:11:50 2011. they want the baby born then nothing after that |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:13:54 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:12:29 2011. Many are happy that fewer black kids are being born. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 26 19:14:04 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:03:55 2011. You're overlooking the fact that they're following rules of procedure.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 26 19:14:18 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Feb 26 18:52:16 2011. The political forces that you're supporting are the same ones that routinely blew up abortion clinics. And here I thought you were one who believed in limited government and not getting government involved in other people's lives and yet here you are somehow defending all this.And then there's our weasel from Pitkin ... 
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 26 19:15:17 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 26 19:13:54 2011. who the right wingers ? |
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