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Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011 http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/04/bachmann-withdraws-cuts/LINK Last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) unveiled a plan to cut $400 billion in federal spending, and included a controversial target. The Tea Party favorite proposed freezing the Veterans Affairs Department’s health care spending and cutting veterans’ disability benefits. Her plan sliced $4.5 billion from the VA and reduced 150,000 veterans’ disability compensation and the amount they receive in Social Security Disability Income. Veterans groups blasted the proposal as “totally out of step with America’s commitment to our veterans,” and as something that shows “contempt for American servicemembers’ sacrifices.” Rest of Story at this LINK tsk tsk, I guess there's more to supporting the troops than tying a yellow ribbon around a tree. I'm glad the Congresswoman reversed direction on this. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 5 10:12:30 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. kinda hard to read a hate filled blog post, but does this mean she's more like a Murtha or an Obama with all the fingers and name calling? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 10:17:02 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 5 10:12:30 2011. Yeah your posts are hard to decipher but the bill that she wanted to pass was not so difficult :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Feb 5 11:27:20 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. I'll all for cutting actual defense spending, but why target the VA? Guess all that stuff about supporting our troops was just blowing smoke up our assess...But then, it is Michele Bachmann, aka, Sarah Palin's long lost sister... |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Feb 5 12:21:04 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. But then, it is Michele Bachmann, aka, Sarah Palin's long lost sister...What a load of crap. You're just one of those misogymnasts or something. On second thought, I agree with you on this one. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 5 12:24:36 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by JayMan on Sat Feb 5 11:27:20 2011. The tea party philosophy is that people should work hard to support themselves. Seeing as these are veterans and not active duty members, the philosophy is that they're being given a handout by the government and that they should work harder for their own health care. The tea party tends to cut areas that they believe as pro-ported handouts. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 19:28:22 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. Bachmann is right.That money is better used to give more billionaires tax cuts and end Big Government (except for rape victims). Those disabled veterans are disabled because God wanted it that way. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 19:31:33 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by JayMan on Sat Feb 5 11:27:20 2011. The VA doesn't have big defense industry lobbyists.In conservo-speak, "supporting the troops" means giving hundreds of billions to Lockheed Martin for stuff the military doesn't want and doesn't work. Fuck the actual troops and their families. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 5 19:34:14 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 19:28:22 2011. God hates the military. :-/ |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 19:40:30 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 19:31:33 2011. No, "support the troops" means use sit behind your computer and bash anyone who thinks war is a bad idea.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 21:49:04 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 19:40:30 2011. that too. More so when it's "the troops" saying it. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 5 21:54:41 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 10:17:02 2011. Maybe she'll try them all for murder like a nobama or murtha et al |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 21:59:07 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by orange blossom special on Sat Feb 5 21:54:41 2011. Let John Loughner shoot themyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Feb 6 01:11:44 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 21:59:07 2011. Why have one do it all? We got about 3 other leftist in jail for attempts since Loughner. Old news. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Feb 6 01:23:37 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 5 19:28:22 2011. I'm glad the billionaires got the tax cut cuz I sure didn't. |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 01:26:36 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Feb 6 01:23:37 2011. This is old news; she backtracked on the whole thing. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 01:34:52 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 01:26:36 2011. No problem with her saying it in the first place though because she's one of yours, right?If she was a democrat, you'd want her drawn and quartered for treason though ... |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 6 05:55:37 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 01:34:52 2011. The thread would be threefold in number of posts, too.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 6 08:06:12 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 01:26:36 2011. Then does an about face when she finds out that she's gonna lose support if she turns her back on them.There should be institutions for scum like her. |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 10:10:57 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Feb 5 12:24:36 2011. The tea party philosophy is that people should work hard to support themselves.They did; they joined the US Armed Services. Seeing as these are veterans and not active duty members, the philosophy is that they're being given a handout by the government and that they should work harder for their own health care. The tea party tends to cut areas that they believe as pro-ported handouts. i.e., screw the troops. I wonder what that will do to enlistment rates.... I gather that you don't actually believe this yourself, but are explaining their mentality. The teabaggers and the Republicans in general espouse a model of twisted self-reliance that when last in full force, during the height of the industrial revolution, you had "scientific" management, the military used to quash worker uprisings, people dying due to chemical exposure, overwork, poverty and even heat and cold waves. Yeah, we don't need to go back to that America. Every bit of scientific evidence flatly contradicts this world view as producing either better economic prosperity or social well-being. (Not that the right-wingers have difficulty arguing with fact.) What's further it seems that the right-wingers are forgetting the basic purpose of civilization: to take care of one another better than we would if we all looked out for ourselves. Espousing a society that is all about looking out for #1 is not the way to a better world by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Feb 6 10:16:49 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 5 19:34:14 2011. God hates the military. :-/Damn. Prayers unanswered. Dreams unrealized. Hopes unfulfilled. I actually thought I had a realistic shot at heaven but that doesn't look good right about now. Qa' choi ng thanh rap qa' vinh no di phong tho, which loosely translated from the northern Vietnamese Thanh Hoa prefecture dialect means "whatever will be will be" and so it is I'll accept my fate. Memo to SelkirkTMO: I suppose that is probably the final word but is there any give and take there? Otherwise, I'm on the southbound Express straight to h-ll. |
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Re: Congressman Bachwomann SCREWS VETERANS |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 6 10:25:56 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 6 08:06:12 2011. N/T. It was just transposing in my mind, so I had to do it... |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Feb 6 11:03:01 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 6 08:06:12 2011. There is,its called congress. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 6 11:11:56 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Feb 6 11:03:01 2011. No, Congress is an honorable entity, The GOP has defiled it and turned it into an object of contempt. Put the GOP where it belongs.IN A MENTAL COLONY. |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 6 11:26:48 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 01:34:52 2011. Gotta love that double standard. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 6 13:17:15 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. All this patriotic fervor from the lefties all of a sudden. Where were you guys 2 years ago when obie wasn't commander in chief and it was the Dem's who were looking to cut funding? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 6 13:21:11 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 6 13:17:15 2011. Where was Fred when his guys were attacking the GOP for their downsized budget cut package just a few days ago? They can't even reconcile their attacks on the GOP. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 6 13:22:19 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. Everybody's getting cut. It's the only way.No one can claim they are above reproach when it comes to this. Real patriots accept hardship with honor and dignity. They don't whine about it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 6 14:11:58 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 6 13:22:19 2011. Real patriots deal with the situation and raise taxes so that the government can properly serve the needs of the people. It's in the Constitution, read it sometime. For those who served, that goes double. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Feb 6 14:38:09 2011, in response to Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 5 08:27:32 2011. If the US government had really wanted to balance the budget, they should not have enacted the $858 billion Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, that was passed into law after the November 2010 mid-term elections. Instead, they should have allowed the Bush tax cuts to expire.But failure to act would have been politically unpopular, and in a democracy the top priority of most politicians is to be re-elected. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Feb 6 14:42:53 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 10:10:57 2011. Every bit of scientific evidence flatly contradicts this world view as producing either better economic prosperity or social well-being.Objection! This is politics, not science. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 14:46:40 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 10:10:57 2011. Wow, you sure are well-indoctrinated, aren't you? Every leftist talking point thrown out there, including the kitchen sink.the basic purpose of civilization: to take care of one another better than we would if we all looked out for ourselves By whose definition? How far are you trying to push that into collectivism versus family? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 14:47:30 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Feb 6 14:38:09 2011. in a democracy the top priority of most politicians is to be re-electedA democracy or a republic? Democracies don't involve politicians. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 6 14:52:32 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 14:46:40 2011. In natural society, the family is one element of the group, within it and does not readily do well outside of it. It really does take a village. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Sun Feb 6 15:45:41 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 14:47:30 2011. A democracy or a republic? Democracies don't involve politicians.I don't think a republic is the right word. The Peoples' Republic of China doesn't hold elections at the national level. I probably should have said a representative democracy. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 15:46:44 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 6 14:46:40 2011. I think bingbong answered you quite well. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 15:49:01 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Feb 5 12:21:04 2011. I think you meant that towards me... ;) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 16:13:53 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 6 13:17:15 2011. Where were you guys 2 years ago when obie wasn't commander in chief and it was the Dem's who were looking to cut funding?That didn't happen. |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 18:12:47 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 6 11:26:48 2011. In one end, out the other. :) |
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Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 18:15:25 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachmann SCREWS VETERANS, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Feb 6 11:11:56 2011. And give them that "Obamacare." :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 18:24:08 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Feb 6 10:16:49 2011. Nah ... that express is making all local stops. :)If you're going straight to hell, wonder where Phred Philips is headed? Beaumont? Heh. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 6 18:29:03 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 16:13:53 2011. Hey, that's a great unbiased source you linked to. Keep up the good work, comrade. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Feb 6 18:29:49 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 6 13:21:11 2011. That post also was short on details...and a post in his response gives him credibility. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 18:43:06 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 16:13:53 2011. Now now ... you should know better than to post anything that wasn't thought up by Drudge up in here. :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 19:05:12 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 6 18:29:03 2011. Hey, that's a great unbiased source you linked to.I wasn't going for unbiased; it's biased against the Democrats for funding the war! Also note that the real left-wing Democrats who were going to vote against it changed their votes under pressure from Nancy Pelosi. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 6 20:50:13 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 19:05:12 2011. LOL!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 6 21:25:09 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 6 19:05:12 2011. Heh. Republicans are SO much win! :) |
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Posted by johnl on Sun Feb 6 21:44:36 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by JayMan on Sun Feb 6 10:10:57 2011. And one of the implied contracts about joining the US armed forces is that you will receive good medical care should you be injured. Given the appalling state of individual health care in the US, it’s not unreasonable that veterans should rely on the VA for injury management and rehabilitation.This is not a handout by any stretch of the imagination. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 6 22:09:50 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 6 13:21:11 2011. I was there, and I laughed at it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 7 10:03:09 2011, in response to Re: Congresswoman Bachman Gives Up On Supporting the Troops, posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 6 14:11:58 2011. great post. |
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