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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:13:42 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:10:04 2010. Not in the area I grew up in. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:15:27 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:06:15 2010. If his wide is Catholic, what does that have to do with him?My father isn't Catholic either, but my mother is, and I was raised Catholic. My father thinks the Catholic Church is "silly" on many things. Non Catholics are allowed to marry in the Catholic Church, so long as one of the parents are Catholic in good standing, and that they promise to raise the kids as Catholic. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:15:52 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:06:15 2010. If his wife is Catholic, what does that have to do with him?My father isn't Catholic either, but my mother is, and I was raised Catholic. My father thinks the Catholic Church is "silly" on many things. Non Catholics are allowed to marry in the Catholic Church, so long as one of the parents are Catholic in good standing, and that they promise to raise the kids as Catholic. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:17:20 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:06:47 2010. Of course. Nothing wrong with doing what is BEST FOR YOUR kids. Of course, in the liberal train of thought, everyone has to fuck their own family, and instead "do what is better for society". Spread the wealth so to speak.... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:17:27 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 12:12:32 2010. If the church had denied admission to begin with, that's one thing. To accept and now attempt to rescind enrollment after the fact is quite different. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:18:16 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:17:20 2010. However, taking the devil's advocate side, that essentially means that the public schools are the dumping grounds for those who couldn't get into private or parochial schools. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:18:22 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:08:01 2010. Maybe, maybe not...but in any event, you could have the best kid and family life possible for a kid, if all the kids around him aren't getting the same, that kid will not do as well as he would have done in a different school environment. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:20:45 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:18:22 2010. However, here's the problem you have: Those who can get out, will...leaving the public schools with the most problematic cases. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:21:01 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:13:42 2010. In fact the grammar schools were not as good, and if I didn't go to Catholic High School, my public high school was supposed to be Franklin K Lane...which in the 80's was a horror, and it recently was slated to be closed, one of the worst schools in the NYC system.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:21:43 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:18:16 2010. Perhaps. But such is life. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:22:26 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 14:20:45 2010. Correct. And nothing wrong with that...it's a parent's choice wehre to send their kid. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 8 14:24:07 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 11:45:00 2010. The objective reason is that their parents are living a noticably anti-Catholic lifestyle.Hmm. Most Catholic schools accept the children of non-Catholics and non-Christians. Most will also accept the children of couples who are not married (and therefore committing the same mortal sin as this lesbian couple). Maybe this school is different and only accepts the children of married Catholics. But I'd be surprised. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:31:15 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:17:20 2010. Someone who would rank ideological hypocrisy ahead of whats best for their kids is a BAD parent. This is why I do not begrudge liberals who send their kids to private school. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:33:00 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:10:27 2010. And let me tell you, the Church is a BITCH about who it will allow to marry in it's church. According to the Church, my marriage is invalid (she's divorced, I'm not Catholic). |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:34:33 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 13:58:26 2010. "It's a different world now, and I don't want my kid to suffer because his classmates are destined for prison, death, or teenaged motherhood. "Oh my....wow...that's like alot of SOCIAL ISSUES on a kids plate to me...lol....that doesn't mean your kid will go down that path...you could send your kid to a MAGNET school within the system... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:36:30 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:33:00 2010. According to the Church, my marriage is invalid (she's divorced, I'm not Catholic).Yup, you are SCREWED...no way around either of those with them! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:36:38 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:05:31 2010. In what school district are you citing? or are you again GENERALIZING..lol |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:37:56 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:34:33 2010. Yes, he would have been "so" much better to have set his kid down this path:http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19111864&BRD=2731&PAG=461&dept_id=574908&rfi=6 |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:40:17 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:00:47 2010. "Excuse me, but please point to the post where I said this, as I never said anything remotely close to that. Please provide the post, thanks."If you are stating what a Catholic should be..then by what you are stating above...Ruby just doesn't cut it!.....get it? or did that also go over your head again.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:42:10 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 8 14:01:17 2010. "And yes if an unmarried couple wanted to send their kids there then I think that they would be turned away. It's just like how (IINM) someone that has been divorced cannot get married in a Catholic Church. You have to follow their rules."Provided that the school has in place a vetting system for heterosexual couple...married or not. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:43:35 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:01:22 2010. "And I never said any of the stuff he is claiming. I didn't even discuss Guiliani."I am using Rudy to test your "Litmus test" here....that's all...I mean...we can use anyone you want...like Joe Biden...if you want... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:45:38 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:02:43 2010. But YOU did make this remark about my ass!..lol as if to say...start walking.....see ya..."The door is open, and it won't hit you in the ass as you walk out. " |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:48:18 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 14:12:09 2010. What happened Olog-hai...mommy forget to feed you today? lol
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:49:56 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:12:41 2010. "Yes, as usually, I made the mistake of even responding to his nonsense. "NONSENSE? come now.....at lets Olog-hai went further and called me a leftist racist..lol....oh Lord....what will the little fellow think up next?
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:52:15 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:04:31 2010. "In effect, I am treated like a customer, not an afterthought. I can call my son's school and schedule a meeting with my son's teacher or principal at any time for any reason."Customer = means you actually have to PAY for the extra service via the tuition you pay them....the private school...if they don't deliver on what you want...they you pull lil Johnny outa the school and they lose the $$$$. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:53:20 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:40:17 2010. I didn't state what a Catholic should be... This is what you said:"Go look at what your friend says here: this coming from GP38 >>> If you support women priests, gay marriage or abortion, you are NOT Catholic. You cannot be Catholic." I didn't say won thing about women priests, abortion, etc. The other Chris may have.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:53:52 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:43:35 2010. I didn't say what you are claiming I said. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 14:56:15 2010, in response to Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 11:20:33 2010. Good. I'm glad they are sticking to what they believe in, and not giving in to people who think like you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 8 14:56:30 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:53:20 2010. didn't say one thing about women priests, abortion, etc. The other Chris may haveHe did . . . (don't expect an apology over the mixup though) |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Mar 8 14:59:12 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:42:10 2010. I think that if you list parents with different last names that they may ask. That's probably what happened here. Otherwise don't ask don't tell if you are a sinner. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 15:00:20 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:06:47 2010. "Damn right it's selfish. It's also human. Other parents will understand, if they're unwilling to admit it publically. "Sounds like BOOMER mentality to me... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:03:46 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 13:55:01 2010. Why are you so obsessed with the Catholic Church? Do you not understand the concept of a private school? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 15:06:42 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:33:00 2010. "And let me tell you, the Church is a BITCH about who it will allow to marry in it's church. According to the Church, my marriage is invalid (she's divorced, I'm not Catholic). "OMG....are you serious? wow...so then you just answered the question of the day....you and your wife were not vetted obviously....since they saw you both as "regular couple" seeking a better place to educate your kid deal..... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:07:40 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 11:50:17 2010. Tough! |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 8 15:07:56 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 8 14:01:17 2010. And yes if an unmarried couple wanted to send their kids there then I think that they would be turned away.Not always. I went to college with someone whose parents were unmarried in the eyes of the Church (they were both born Catholic, but one had a previous divorce), and he went to Catholic school. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:09:27 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:36:30 2010. No biggie. Other churches just want a check. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:10:14 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 15:06:42 2010. What's the big deal? I am not a Catholic and I do not believe Catholic dogma. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 15:12:10 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 14:33:00 2010. "And let me tell you, the Church is a BITCH about who it will allow to marry in it's church. According to the Church, my marriage is invalid (she's divorced, I'm not Catholic). "OMG....are you serious? wow...so then you just answered the question of the day....you and your wife were not vetted obviously....since they saw you both as "regular couple" seeking a better place to educate your kid deal..... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:13:03 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:49:56 2010. We're not targeting your politics....you have a lot of company on here in that regard. It's just your demeanor of late, insulting, screaming, uncivilized. Calm down and argue your position WITHOUT vandalizing the subject line for once! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 15:13:45 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 14:56:15 2010. However, this appears to be a case of double-speak, where the diocese knew of the parental lifestyles, but chose to accept the child anyway into the program, and now is trying to do an about-face after the fact.The term "readmit" is being used here, suggesting that the Catholic school is trying to push someone out of the pipeline who is already in it. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 15:20:36 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:07:40 2010. I would agree if it were not for the fact that the school is trying to rescind an acceptance after the fact. If the article is correct, the person was already admitted and the diocese is now trying to de-admit that person. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:24:38 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 15:20:36 2010. Fuck it. It's a private school. They can do that. If the church wants to behave this way, it might explain why there are so many storefront churches around NYC and other cities. |
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Posted by R143 on Mon Mar 8 15:31:13 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 14:52:15 2010. Most of the time , your dollars are better spent there than your taxdollars were forcibly spent to public schools . |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 15:38:03 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by R143 on Mon Mar 8 15:31:13 2010. However, at the same time, you have the issue of money being spent on religious programs...which is endorsing religion, a no-no. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 15:45:59 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Mar 8 15:12:10 2010. In the eyes of the church, they are more a "regular" couple than two women. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 15:47:16 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 8 15:13:03 2010. Correct. I have absolutely no problem with him disagreeing with anyone, or me. It's the demeanor, and his insulting uncivilized attacks. If he would calm down, and debate like an adult, more people would take his positions seriously. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 15:48:04 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 15:38:03 2010. Private schools are funded through tuition. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 15:54:58 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by R143 on Mon Mar 8 15:31:13 2010. In essence, people that send their kids to private school are often paying twice for their kid's education. Once through taxes funding the public schools they don't even use, and again through the tuition of the school they chose to send their kids too. There probably should be an exemption of school taxes for families that have kids currently enrolled in private school.School taxes make up the biggest part of most real estate tax bills. And much of that money goes to tenured teachers that can't be fired no matter how bad they are, many of which make 6 figure salaries. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:59:33 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 14:21:01 2010. CTK tuition= Protection money for kids who want to avoid Lane or Adams. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 16:02:53 2010, in response to Re: Catholic School Rejects Child Because Of Lesbian Parents, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 8 15:59:33 2010. Yup, that's really how I wound up going there too.I was supposed to go there, but in the final hours we decided on Christ the King. My mother's friend's daughter who is two years older than me, went to Lane, and was attacked and mugged by other students in the bathroom. She was afraid to even go to the bathroom there. This was commonplace there in the 80's. Not to mention, the grades aren't good at that school. |
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