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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:01:37 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 10:02:51 2010.

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You're AVOIDING the question in regards to Obama and the relevence to Rev. Wright...why is that? afraid to answer it? ok

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Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:05:16 2010, in response to Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 13 15:27:47 2010.

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Very well put in light of what Robertson states:

From the CNN.COM:

iReport —

Telediabolist Pat Robertson claims Haitians visited the epic disaster they’re dealing with on themselves by making a pact with the devil to gain independence from France two hundred years ago. That imbecility might even trump Falwell’s classic bit of hate stating 9/11 was visited on the USA because we had turned our backs on God.

Best defense a CBN mouthpiece has offered for Robertson is that he didn’t say the disaster was ‘God’s wrath.’ No, just that God allowed it to happen and Haitians are devil-worshippers.

Ironic, that a man who’s built his career (and fortune) on that gentle carpenter from two millennia ago, doesn’t know the first thing about his message of love.

Haitians need help. Food, water, materiale. Anything and everything but hate.

We can pray as well. Something Robertson knows nothing about.


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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 11:07:25 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:01:37 2010.

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Are you white or black?

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:26:24 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 11:07:25 2010.

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I am an American, born and raised on Long Island...and I am purple....since you seem to be overly impressed by a person's skin color...btw....some of my best friend's are Jewish, having grown up in the a small town named Great Neck...

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:30:37 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:26:24 2010.

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Actually....today...I am GREEN...with envy....lol

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 18 11:31:11 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by Easy on Mon Jan 18 10:51:48 2010.

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What does that have to do with Wright or Obama? Doesn't Wright's Church have white members?

Doesn't look like too many white people in his audience:



Isn't Obama half white?

Yes, but aside from saying he has a typical white woman grandmother, he never mentions his white side, and it's always his black side that is promoted.



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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 11:36:06 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:26:24 2010.

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Why are so many white people obsessed over obama?

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010, in response to Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:05:16 2010.

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They practice voodoo in Haiti.



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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Sa

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:42:59 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:26:24 2010.

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Long Island? Oh shit. Long Island lit up this weekend. TWO SHOOTINGS IN NASSAU COUNTY. None in Suffolk. Let's hope the frigid cold returns soon. That keeps the crime down.

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:46:05 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 11:36:06 2010.

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Same way so many Whites were obsessed over Reagan...lol...fame and glamour.............lol

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 11:51:54 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010.

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You're not seriously suggesting that's why there was earthquake?!

Pat Robertson's idiocy is little different from voodoo anyway.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:53:26 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 11:51:54 2010.

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In a country so superstitious, don't you think there are citizens who are asking why God did this to them?

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:55:28 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010.

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"And what does that have to do with the price of TEA in China?" "are you a Preacher?" lol.....sound familiar? lol...I bet it does...buddy...




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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:59:07 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010.

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It is also "practiced" in Louisiana and parts of West Africa....are you now impressed? lol


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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:01:10 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:53:26 2010.

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So what does that have to do with Voodoo? Voodoo didn't have anything to do with the quake...if you think that...then you're really lost...

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:03:30 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:59:07 2010.

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And I'm sure those people in Louisiana blamed God for Katrina.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:04:50 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:01:10 2010.

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I know you're the former "journalsquare k-car".

I'm just pointing out that Haiti is a very superstitious country, and some probably blame God, just like Robertson.

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by Easy on Mon Jan 18 12:07:13 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 18 11:31:11 2010.

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But they do have white members so they don't discriminate like the klan.

I hear Obama talking about both sides. He's talked about his mother and father and has talked about his grandmother on more than just the occasion that you mention. I think that you have selective amnesia. :)

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Re: A Horse Is A Horse....Of Course, Of Course

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 18 12:09:27 2010, in response to Re: A Horse Is A Horse....Of Course, Of Course, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jan 18 05:06:49 2010.

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LOL!
they are running the old ''mr ed'' show here on [ this tv ]
i used to watch this show a lot when i was in my childhood years

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Sa

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:12:03 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by Easy on Mon Jan 18 12:07:13 2010.

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and has talked about his grandmother

Why do you set yourself up like that?

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 12:16:07 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 11:46:05 2010.

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Whites? or us whites?

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 12:18:01 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 14 01:37:44 2010.

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He's been doing this for years. He blamed Clinton's flings for the midwest floods in '93.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:18:56 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:53:26 2010.

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In a country so superstitious, don't you think there are citizens who are asking why God did this to them?

Of course. That's just the problem of evil that I mentioned in a post several days ago. If you're a monotheist who believes in an all good, all powerful, all knowing God, then why do awful things happen?

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:19:46 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 12:18:01 2010.

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Exactly. He has been talking crazy for years. People are trying to make a race issue out of this.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:20:47 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:19:46 2010.

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It's a stupidity issue, not so much a race issue.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:21:53 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:18:56 2010.

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I think people are trying to make a racial issue out of Robertson's stupid statement. That's what is happening here.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:28:45 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:20:47 2010.

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But that's where the outrage is coming from. A white conservative protestant talking crazy about disaster in a black poverty stricken nation.

I never knew Haiti was so poor, that in many households, a family member stays up all night to fight off rats, so they don't take over the house or bite family members as they sleep.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 12:29:55 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:18:56 2010.

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Of course. That's just the problem of evil that I mentioned in a post several days ago. If you're a monotheist who believes in an all good, all powerful, all knowing God, then why do awful things happen?

When it comes to matters of faith, I consult my Bible, Battlestar Galactica. To quote Gaius Baltar:

God's a force of nature, beyond good and evil. Good and evil, we created those.

God doesn't do good or evil things. He does things and human beings judge them as good or evil.

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:31:39 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:28:45 2010.

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Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

The real problem to putting together the country right after this latest disaster is the corrupt leadership and the brain drain.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:34:24 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 12:29:55 2010.

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That's not what many monotheists believe, though. Hence the problem of evil is a real problem. Most often the way to get around is it an unusually pleasant afterlife, so that a net good is the result.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:35:17 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:03:30 2010.

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No...they blamed Bush for not stepping up to the plate as "a leader" and pushing forth a plan of action....Bush was more like "a man of inaction.."

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:39:03 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:04:50 2010.

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"I know you're the former "journalsquare k-car"."

Do you have any solid proff to back up your claim? like some DNA testing perhaps? I know your the former "tickle me Elmo" handle...but hey...life goes on...lol


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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 12:39:07 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by Easy on Mon Jan 18 12:07:13 2010.

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Than they all are self loathing whites.

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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan)

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:41:37 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan), posted by Easy on Mon Jan 18 12:07:13 2010.

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" I think that you have selective amnesia. :) "

Most Republicans....DO!...they don't want you to remember that Bush and his cronies got us into this financial mess....


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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:49:49 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 12:29:55 2010.

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"When it comes to matters of faith, I consult my Bible, Battlestar Galactica."

So what happened to your yearly subscription to the National Enquirer? did that run out? The last issue was quoted as saying that Bush was having tea with the leaders of Mars at the Plaza....

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 13:26:09 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:49:49 2010.

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So what happened to your yearly subscription to the National Enquirer? did that run out?

How about addressing my point ...

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jan 18 13:32:36 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010.

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Voodo is practiced in many places. What's your point?

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 13:33:18 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 13:26:09 2010.

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You mean about you using Battlestar Galactica to base your conclusions? lol

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jan 18 13:34:37 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 12:39:03 2010.

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>>>>Do you have any solid proff to back up your claim?<<<<

I think he still has a banana in his behind. LOL

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 13:34:50 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 13:33:18 2010.

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That was a sarcastic way to give proper attribution to a quote I used that's on point.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 13:39:51 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:37:36 2010.

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I once saw some voodoo at an air show:



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Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Sa

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 18 13:45:17 2010, in response to Re: Don't Forget The Rev. Wright(Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Sa, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 12:12:03 2010.

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Yes, that must be the typical white grandmother.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by Concourse Express on Mon Jan 18 14:05:29 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jan 18 12:18:56 2010.

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Natural disasters and other tragedies don't necessarily contradict the supposition that God is good; such also occurred in Biblical times (In some of those cases, natural disasters were one way God exacted judgment against a people). Put another way, that God Himself is not evil does not mean that evil itself cannot exist; many Christians (myself included) also acknowledge the existence of Satan.

This isn't to say that Satan (or demons) are the sole cause of evil; people are capable of deciding to do things that one might judge to be "good" or "evil" (of course we didn't cause the quake in Haiti, but I speak in general terms).

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Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jan 18 15:18:57 2010, in response to Re: Pat Robertson: Haitians suffering because of their pact with Satan, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jan 15 08:43:45 2010.

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Lol at you calling me a bigot, go do some research on Haiti's history then get back to me.

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 15:40:24 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 18 11:53:26 2010.

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From today's NYTIMES.COM:

Update | 1:49 p.m. A review of French press coverage of the disaster on the English-language Web site of Radio France Internationale notes:

Le Monde’s front page is given over to an interview with the Haitian novelist, Dany Laferričre, who was in Port-au-Prince at the moment of the earthquake. He wants people to stop talking about Haiti as if it was cursed, suggesting that the island’s population was, in some sense, being punished for a past crime.

And he wonders about the identification of those who took food from destroyed shops as “looters”, saying that, when people risk their lives, crawling through ruins in search of something to eat and drink, they are motivated by need, not by greed.

The Guardian’s Lizzy Davis points out that the writer said the use of the term “cursed” was unfair: “This is an insulting word which implies that Haiti has done something wrong and it’s paying for it.” According to a translation by Ms. Davis, he added:

It would be better to talk about this incredible energy that I’ve seen, these men and women who are helping each other with courage and dignity. Although the city has been partially destroyed and the state has been decapitated, the people are staying, working and living. So please, stop using the word curse. Haiti has done nothing… This is a catastrophe which could happen anywhere.

French-speakers — or those willing to trust Google Translate for a rough idea of what was said — can read the complete interview with Mr. Laferričre on Le Monde’s Web site.

On Friday, Mr. Laferričre told Canada’s Globe and Mail newspaper: “It felt unreal. Because it was too much. This time it felt like something that surpassed all the misfortune that has stricken Haiti until now.” He added, “This time, we hit the bottom.”



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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 15:42:05 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jan 18 13:34:37 2010.

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Agreed...and I constantly have to remind him, CHRISR16, to backoff smoking that Catnip of his...lol

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Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 15:43:32 2010, in response to Re: Robertson: Hate and Haiti, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 18 13:34:50 2010.

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Hey....you mentioned it...not me...and you left yourself "wide open" for that one...lol

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Re:

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 16:49:00 2010, in response to Re:, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 18 10:17:32 2010.

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Albino?

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Re:

Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Jan 18 16:52:04 2010, in response to Re:, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 18 16:49:00 2010.

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Now that's a thought...right?

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Re: A Horse Is A Horse....Of Course, Of Course

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 18 17:32:56 2010, in response to Re: A Horse Is A Horse....Of Course, Of Course, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 18 12:09:27 2010.

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We have ThisTV here in Smallbany too ... ain't it GREAT?! :)

I have that channel lit lately more than anything else ...

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