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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:17:39 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:15:16 2008.

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Nonsensical doesn't BEGIN to describe it. Where else but Long Island and NY does most rail service run all times?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:17:48 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:15:16 2008.

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If you want to win, be a man, and we'll clock some buses and trains ourselves one day when I come back to NYC, and put this argument to rest.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:18:34 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:14:08 2008.

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Someone drank a bad batch of Kool-Aid, ROFL!

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:19:25 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:17:01 2008.

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Somebody drank a bad batch of Kool-Aid, with what is described in my culture as mad puss piss.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:20:31 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:17:48 2008.

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There's nothing to win in this. Compare those buses or trains to other cities..... Most of which dont' even have any....
Even the most hater of public tranit can even see that NY is light years ahead of most other locations transit-wise.


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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:23:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:14:47 2008.

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The improvements have not found their way to the 23, 54, 11, and 53 routes. Be a man, and we'll go to Metro and Woodhaven one day and clock some buses. Then we'll clock trains at 63Drive.

A few weeks ago, I went to JFK, but turned around when I decided at the last minute that I could die in a plane crash, and left the airport and non-refundable ticket behind. On the way home, I took the Q54, and waited 40 minutes at 6pm on a Friday night at Jamaica and Sutphin.

While there, I had time to observe that the area is still pretty fucking shitty. I had to laugh when Franks Pizza closed at 6pm. 6pm! How many pizza shops close at 6pm? He's afraid to stay open late in Jamaica.

Be a man. Let's clock some service.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:26:24 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:17:39 2008.

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I'm not complaining about LIRR. That's Peter Rosa's job. He's probably finishing up at the gym now as we speak. And I'm about to go to the beach in Sarasota.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:27:46 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:20:31 2008.

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When people wait long periods for trains or buses in NYC, should they feel better knowing the last HART bus for Tampa leaves Gibsonton at 7:30pm?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:29:02 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:23:54 2008.

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The Q11 has actually been improved. You have obviously not noticed that the Q21 just got a huge extension, duplicating the Q11 from Elmhurst to Ozone Park before serving Lindenwood and Howard Beach on its way to Rockaway Park.

This in turn helps out the Q11 and Q53 greatly, because it provides more capacity on Woodhaven. (Q11 short-turns are now extended to the Rockaways.)

As for your fear of planes, you may need some help. Your Q54 misfortune is likely an anomaly, as though you are the guy in "Worst Week".

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:30:13 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:27:46 2008.

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What do you consider "long"? I have been on lines where the frequency is 2 hours or worse...which, BTW, should be the headways for all non-SI express buses off-peak.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:38:37 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:23:54 2008.

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Chris. Moreira. Be real men, and clock the service with when I come back to NY.

Funny thing is that my fear of flying actually comes from an experience on the F train.

One day, I was working midnights on the F. There were like a dozen work gangs between Coney Island and Continental that night. Maybe more.

Tower told me to take a skip because I was running about 15 minutes late. On midnights, that means people could've been waiting as long as 30-35 minutes for "rapid transit".

As I was bypassing a station at just 10mph(work gang on the road bed slowed me down as I came through the station), and blowing my horn, an airline pilot walked up to the platform edge, shouted "FUCK YOU", and gave me the finger. This guy is flying a commercial airliner? Shit!

He's part of the reason why I am afraid to fly. He's also the reason I feel that airline personnel(especially pilots, mechanics too) should not be allowed to live in NY. Too stressful.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:40:08 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:29:02 2008.

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Clock the 54 with me when I come back to NY. I can back my statements up, and am willing to do so in person, not posts.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 15:00:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:16:49 2008.

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What do you expect from somebody who was Fired by NYCT?

Ask around, you'll find the proff.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Deaks on Sat Sep 27 15:00:38 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:39:04 2008.

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No, I don't think so. I'm not really into TNA, and in any case I believe their shows have long since sold out.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 15:08:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 15:00:22 2008.

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I was always like this about shitty service. Goes back years. If anything, most transit workers agree, and that's why so many drive to work, even though they have a free pass to get to and from work.

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Re: Debait

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 27 15:09:08 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:28:06 2008.

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?? Cross County Metro was and is a joke. The Trenton Cutoff would serve better as a more direct Amtrak route between New York and Harrisburg, bypassing Philly (a shorter route than that would be the CNJ or LVRR to RDG, via Allentown). It's absurd that the PRR never used the Trenton Cutoff for the Broadway Limited and other NYP-CHI trains. Even more absurd was Conrail being allowed to tear down the wires and basically turn the route into a severed "secondary".

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 15:14:20 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:22:57 2008.

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Been there, done that. (except the FBI didn't bother us).

I had hamsters when I was in the 5th Grade. One I got was a loaded female who delivered 7 little ones. (Nothing like being exposed to the "wonders of nature" at the tender age of 9.) When the little ones were weaned, off to the friendly pet shop they went (at $1.25 each). That was "big money" in the Fabulous Fifties".

When I was 15 I discovered girls and streetcars. The streetcars were more fun. Been there for 45 years. Married for 33 of them.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 16:24:18 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:48:06 2008.

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prove all your lies
since you are a liar
and attack me at every post
prove all 7 of your lies on me & !!
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and post some DIRT on YOURSELF
and your picture

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 16:43:21 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 16:24:18 2008.

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Since you have your own message board have you thought about inviting Mr Mabstoa so that you guys could take all of this stuff over there? If so, I think that would be a fantastic idea! Only a small fraction of what either of you post contribute in any relevant way to the discussion topics.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 16:43:52 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:05:15 2008.

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If you're in the outer boroughs you have to plan accordingly for traffic conditions. I live near Fort Totten. If I ride the Q13 to Main Street Flushing to get the 7 train, I have to leave myself AT LEAST 10 EXTRA MINUTES travel time in addition to the 31 minutes the trip is scheduledtp take at 6AM, to allow for the fact that everyone else is going to work, the bus gets crowded because less people are driving to the Park & Ride at Shea Stadium, weather conditions, etc.
It takes me 50 minutes to get to work, an 8 mile, 15 minute trip by car.

Returning home form work at 3:30 in the afternoon, traffic conditions around Main Street & Northern Blvd can wreak havoc on the trip.

I can't speak for the area you live in, but the bus ride to Flushing is a long trip. But it is generally reliable and the scehdules posted on the TA's website helps me plan accordingly.

Living in a "two-fare zone" has always been a grind. I've always lived in two-fare zones. I wouldn't say the service sucks. It is what it is.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 16:51:59 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 16:43:21 2008.

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easy he posted 7 lies and atacks on me that can not be proven
the illrelevancy is his to prove and not me
i did not post a list of seven [7] atacks - lies on Mabstoa
i have not done anything to Mabstoa and do not effect Mabstoas
daily life in any way so i demand Mabstoa stop all the attacks
insults and lies on me ! its called DEFENSE
i would not want Mabstoa on my board at all
i am looking for intellgent good people like you

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 16:54:18 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 16:43:21 2008.

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also easy i want you to go to Mabstoa and tell that idiot to stop
posting lies and attacks on me on this forum

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 17:39:45 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:25:58 2008.

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What does Katie Couric have to do with this?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 17:47:26 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 22:48:01 2008.

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You should really keep out of other people's business.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 18:02:12 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 00:04:37 2008.

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Public transit is filled with minorities.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 18:03:44 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:15:59 2008.

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I disagree about the lack of light rail. Where other cities have light rail, New York City has much better heavy rail.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 18:08:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:23:54 2008.

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A few weeks ago, I went to JFK, but turned around when I decided at the last minute that I could die in a plane crash
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Be a man.


Do as I say and not as I do.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 20:53:58 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 08:43:01 2008.

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If you'd post in English instead of jibber I'd be more likely to respond. It's just too much work trying to translate and figure what you are trying to say.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 20:56:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Sep 27 08:22:03 2008.

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Dan, I was well aware of the advisors sent by Eisenhower. That's why I used the term "escalate" when referring to JFK.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 21:22:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 17:47:26 2008.

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I am. I'm not asking for details, wished Will the best, and that's it.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 21:23:11 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 27 18:02:12 2008.

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So?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 21:30:01 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 21:23:11 2008.

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So, you don't like minorities. Or at least you don't seem to based on your reported observations of minority behavior and characteristics (stereotypes).

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 21:43:11 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:48:06 2008.

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Mabstoa
prove all [7] SEVEN of your LIES you posted on me
-- !!!
if you are going to charge me with this then post all of your
proof
proff
you lie-ing son of a bitch

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Sep 27 21:47:05 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Sep 26 23:50:54 2008.

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Public transportation sucks for the most part. It's frustrating, dirty, overcrowded, inconsistent, and etc...........

Fund public transportation like highways are funded, and that goes away.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 21:49:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sat Sep 27 21:47:05 2008.

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TRUE!!


TRUE!!!


CUT THE BULL!!!

TIME FOR THOSE MANIPULATIVE BEINGS TO PAY THE PRICE!!!!

We all have to GET THEM.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 21:51:30 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 21:49:50 2008.

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Calm down.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 27 21:57:44 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:58:16 2008.

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Ever wait for an E train to Queens at 12:00 midnight at 53/Lex? You'll stand there for a very long time. Then when you get on, you won't even get a seat.

Thats because its midnight, and the don't run as many trains as during midday/rush hour.



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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:00:02 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 27 21:57:44 2008.

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But they should. If there are no seats, more service is needed. I'm going to rip major ass when I get the chance. This crap has to end. No more dicking of the citizens. Time to dick the people behind this...up top.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 27 22:05:29 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 00:03:07 2008.

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What? The NYC area has great transit service, the only bad thing is the timer signals and disabled field shunting on the old cars which made the system slower, other than that NYC area transit is pretty good.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:06:36 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:00:02 2008.

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Face it Flounder, you will never get the chance to rip any ass - except possibly your own, with your plastic banana.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 22:09:25 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 27 22:05:29 2008.

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Compared to US systems NY's transit is fantastic. Compared to cities like Paris, Tokyo, Moscow, etc. it's just okay. Lots of tourists from other alpha world cities have complained that the frequency of trains in NY isn't up to what they're used to. And that's for Manhattan. The outer boroughs must be even worse.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:25:25 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 22:09:25 2008.

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Really? Well how many trains per hour does moscow. tokyo or paris run between 1 Am and 5 Am on their major lines?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 22:27:38 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:25:25 2008.

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That is a GREAT feature of NYC, but to be fair that's hardly when most people ride the train. Especially tourists. We generally take taxis at that time.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:28:29 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:06:36 2008.

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Too bad you think that. I will. It is my personal destiny, or ultimate dream, if you will. But right now I am studying in school though. Take note of this: the corrupt people brought this upon themselves. Had they been good people, and had they provided good transit, there would be no need for me to be so upset, and want to teach them a lesson.

I am also upset about some world issues, but that is different. Lots of stuff is messed up.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:30:55 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:25:25 2008.

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Thank you for changing the subject.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 22:32:32 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 22:27:38 2008.

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The person making the complaint about NYC transit mentioned "traveling on the E train in the midnight hours".

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 22:33:28 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:28:29 2008.

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???

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 22:35:14 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:30:55 2008.

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How is that changing the subject? He is discussing the cities that Easy mentioned in his post.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:40:04 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:30:55 2008.

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What in hell are you smoking. My posting was in derect response to the previous post in this thread. I suggest that if you can't keep up with the conversation, go over to the PBS board and post on Sesame Street-talk.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 27 22:41:05 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat Sep 27 22:28:29 2008.

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Your personal destiny is to become a bunion on the left foot of society

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