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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:33:36 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:30:50 2008.

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Cars will always be the main mode of transport in most areas, no matter how many rail lines you have.

Well, then they're going to have to run on something other than gasoline. There's no way oil production can keep up with the projected demand over the next century.




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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:34:43 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 09:12:48 2008.

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It wasn't bait. When it was seen that the debate would not be postponed, there was no choice but to go.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:38:31 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:33:36 2008.

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I agree with that.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:42:17 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:06:04 2008.

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Heh. Yeah, sun rises in the north, sets in the south. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:45:29 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:34:43 2008.

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Dayum! McCain folds for LIBERALS! Heh. Film at 11! :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Sep 27 09:47:28 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 01:33:29 2008.

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Here I am...

holiday train

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 09:48:15 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 09:28:17 2008.

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DAT's da spirit! :)

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 10:17:16 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 09:28:17 2008.

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DAT's da spirit! :)When one has "Squirrel cheeks" it becomes even MORE important to remember where you hid yer nuts ... heh. And frankly, I've buried MINE in some really "interesting" places over the years. I'll leave it there. =)

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 10:20:26 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by AlM on Sat Sep 27 09:29:41 2008.

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Agreed ... but that WAS the so-called "game plan" ... Obama was SUPPOSED to look like an idiot in "McCainworld where nothing can go wrong ... go wrong ... go whoops" ... heh. Seems as though the boy caught up even if McCain kept parroting, "yo HERE, you iggerant whippersnapper" ... heh.

McCain SHOULD have won this round handily ... remember also that FUTURE debates on "the economy, stupid" and other things were to come LATER. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 10:53:13 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 00:16:55 2008.

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Post yours first, obsessed one.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 10:54:14 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 00:28:33 2008.

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Look it up, I wouldn't give you the time of day. Why would anyone else around here?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 10:54:30 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 00:34:19 2008.

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pwned!

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 10:55:31 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 00:40:03 2008.

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liar, you have intention of leaving. You think people are that stupid?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 10:56:54 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 10:55:31 2008.

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He found 3 or 4 pics after he posted that. He might already be gone. ;)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 11:01:27 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:39:56 2008.

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alot, obviously.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 11:17:45 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 27 10:56:54 2008.

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One can only hope.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 11:24:12 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by phxtusbusfan on Fri Sep 26 23:39:29 2008.

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>>>>Yes, I know i'm not electable. <<<<

Don't worry, no one else that posts here is, either.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 11:43:50 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 09:29:22 2008.

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Well they don't call Route 25 Middle "Country" Road for nothing. (I have actually been on that road.)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 11:57:04 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Sep 27 11:24:12 2008.

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Ahem. Heh. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 12:41:19 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 00:12:49 2008.

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He can't possibly believe that. He has to be posting for reaction.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:46:53 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 08:33:13 2008.

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the results of who won the debate will be out in a few weeks-on Election Day.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:58:16 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 00:12:49 2008.

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The service is horrible. Very inconsistent. You have to allow yourself more time than ever to get around by public transportation. It seems to be falling apart.

Local service on the Queens Corridor is a nightmare. Same for the 6 train. Both regularly experience long gaps in service on an hourly basis.

Try riding the subways at night. Ever wait for an E train to Queens at 12:00 midnight at 53/Lex? You'll stand there for a very long time. Then when you get on, you won't even get a seat.

Buses? Bus service is the worst it's ever been. Metrocard helped speed up the decline with overcrowding. 30 minute waits during rush hour for the Q23 and Q54 buses are very common. You don't know when the damn bus is coming.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:59:10 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 12:41:19 2008.

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Nope. I responded. Mass transit in NY is horrible. Buses especially.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 13:04:08 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:58:16 2008.

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LOL, you are hysterical!
I don't agree with how "bad" it apparently is so says you, but it's a lot better than what most cities have which is nothing.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 13:04:39 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:59:10 2008.

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Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 13:12:36 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:46:53 2008.

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Nah ... bullshit "popularity polls" (as important as Entertainment Tonight) will be prognosticating by the time I'm typing. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:13:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 13:04:39 2008.

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They suck ass. The Q23 and Q54 will fuck up your day quite often. 30 minute waits are the norm.

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Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:18:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!! (other reactions), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 13:12:36 2008.

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Sad thing is that undecided people are often the ones who don't watch the debates. It's the people like us who have strong opinions, and have already decided, who tune in to see our candidate "win".

The Palin-Biden debate could be huge.

I wonder if last night beat Reagan vs. Carter in viewership?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by Deaks on Sat Sep 27 13:24:53 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:58:16 2008.

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I do agree with others who say, or at least I hope, that you post stuff for reaction. However....

Try riding the subways at night.

Try riding the 'subways' in other countries and cities at night. You won't even get through the station entrance 'cos it'll most probably be locked shut and the system closed! How shit it must be to have rapid transit that runs 24/7....

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 27 13:28:09 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 13:04:08 2008.

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Pshaw! WE have "bicycle technology" for mess tranny-sit. :)

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 13:32:14 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:13:22 2008.

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That has actually changed dramatically in just the past 3 years.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:39:04 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Deaks on Sat Sep 27 13:24:53 2008.

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are you going to go to TNA wrestling when they come to England?

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:40:26 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 13:32:14 2008.

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Yeah. It has gotten worse. Every fucking day there's a problem on both lines. The Q11 and Q53 also will fuck up your day.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:44:12 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:13:22 2008.

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Are you on crack? Most cities would only dream of a system 1/8 the size of NY.
You sound like one of those perpetual complainers who are never satisfied.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:46:45 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 12:58:16 2008.

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"Try riding the subways at night. Ever wait for an E train to Queens at 12:00 midnight at 53/Lex? You'll stand there for a very long time. Then when you get on, you won't even get a seat."

LMAO!! Especially when most other cities don't even have 24 hour service at night.

Some people can never be pleased, and just love to make a drama out of everything.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:48:22 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 08:59:29 2008.

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It still does. NYC is better than most. Sure it has it's problems, but so does any system, and lost systems aren't even a small fraction of the size.
We should leave Luch on the subway in 1982 and see how bad he thinks it is today....and even NYC's 1982 subway still was great compared to what many cities had which is nothing.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Sep 27 13:53:53 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 27 01:48:06 2008.

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prove all your lies
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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:54:13 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:44:12 2008.

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I'm just saying, have cab money with you, because public transit can fuck your day up big time. Buses are unreliable. Trains on the PM are slowed by work gangs, GO's etc......... Buffs can't see these things, but it's very true.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:54:21 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:44:12 2008.

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I'm just saying, have cab money with you, because public transit can fuck your day up big time. Buses are unreliable. Trains on the PM are slowed by work gangs, GO's etc......... Buffs can't see these things, but it's very true.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:58:41 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:46:45 2008.

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but the service is very unreliable. you'll wait long for buses and trains. and it's frustrating when it happens every single day.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 14:03:51 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:48:22 2008.

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Try public transportation in Chicago at night. 1 hour headways and truncated service on some lines. Many bus routes shut down completely.

To get from point A to point B in Manhattan, the subways are the best way to go. But service in the outer boroughs, particularly bus service during the off hours, has room for improvement. And I am fortunate to live in an area that is served by the Q13, 16, 28 and QM2/QM2A. And the LIRR is less than 2 miles from my house.

For all it's blemishes, public transportation in New York City is pretty damned good.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:04:47 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:54:13 2008.

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"Buffs" are the first to complain about anything.
Better have cab money in most other locations too, as there is no alternative.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:05:15 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by MJF on Sat Sep 27 14:03:51 2008.

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Sure, point A to B in Manhattan is ok. Point A to B Manhattan to Queens is another story. And the buses will fuck up your day even if the trains are running fine.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:09:56 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:04:47 2008.

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But it shouldn't be that way in NYC. Transit sucks and fucks you up big time when you're in a hurry.

Buffs only complain about what equipment is being used, imaginary extensions, and stupid shit like that. I never read insightful posts about current service.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:14:08 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:05:15 2008.

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Hahahahaha. Try it in another city...better have good cab fare with you.


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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:14:47 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:40:26 2008.

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You are showing that you have obviously not seen the massive improvements in bus service. The NYCDOT was the one doing a terrible job managing the system.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:15:16 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 13:58:41 2008.

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Beats hourly service at night, no service at all, or....the majority, which is nothing at all any time of day.

You aren't going to win on such a nonsensical idea.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:15:59 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:09:56 2008.

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Transit doesn't suck in NYC, actually. NYC actually is an example of what mass transit SHOULD be, except for its lack of any light rail. That is my only complaint.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 27 14:16:49 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by R143 on Sat Sep 27 13:44:12 2008.

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He must be drinking Kool-Aid, if you know what I mean. That is the most ridiculous statement (LuchAAA) I have heard in my 5+ years on any transit message board.

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Re: Debate!!!!

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 27 14:17:01 2008, in response to Re: Debate!!!!, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Sep 27 14:09:56 2008.

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Transit sucks and fucks you up big time when you're in a hurry.


You don't know how ridiculous you sound with this. In a hurry? Most other places it's either drive OR Walk.


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