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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:50:02 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 13:29:53 2008. Antisemite. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:50:28 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 02:46:27 2008. OK, I can accept that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:53:26 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 08:35:54 2008. Israel is most likely planning an attack on IranNo they aren't. And if they were, engaging Iran's biggest ally in the region in surrender talks isn't the way to go about it. Ironic how Bush ended up calling Israelis "appeasers" in his speech You sure he was talking about them? The librulz knew who he was talking about. Of course, that's hypocrisy on Bush's part, because he'd rather kiss Iran's ass than attack (which is the only way he can get the "war on terror" to end). Since you're the second stupidest SubChatter You can stop looking in the mirror and talking to yourself now. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:54:06 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 10:06:16 2008. You're laughing because you know that's not what's happening. He wanted to get the spotlight off Germany. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:55:29 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 13:12:09 2008. You don't engage in dialogue with your enemies to become friends. You talk to them to lay down the lawIf that were what's happening, then Israel would be expanding, not contracting. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:56:11 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by J trainloco on Fri May 23 22:53:10 2008. I see you show your true colors as a racist and an antisemite. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 13:57:11 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:55:29 2008. Suppose they don't want to expand? Other than the settlement sector of their populace, I mean.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:57:17 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Nilet on Fri May 23 22:26:46 2008. Good to see you've fed yourself three times.Now could you answer the question? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:57:36 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 02:43:08 2008. Until it's too late. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat May 24 13:58:32 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:56:11 2008. What did he say that was racist or antisemitic? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 13:59:23 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 13:54:06 2008. That's silly, the spotlight is always on Germany. Come to the Cabaret!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 14:02:01 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 13:59:23 2008. That's silly, the spotlight is always on GermanyNo, it's never on Germany; it should be on Germany a lot more. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 14:03:43 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 13:57:11 2008. Israel has had it fairly easy for most of its existence when it comes to dealing with it's enemies. All of the Arabs it has fought have been (a) cowardly, or (b) militarily incompetent, or (c) in most cases, both cowardly and militarily incompetent. All that's changed with Hezbollah. Say what you want about the Hezzies, they're courageous and pretty decent fighters. And the Israelis just don't know how to deal with them.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 14:21:08 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 14:03:43 2008. Say what you want about the Hezzies, they're courageous and pretty decent fighters. And the Israelis just don't know how to deal with themThey have no courage; they hide behind innocents. Israel's afraid of ticking off Germany and its allies, and that's why they won't invade (which is what they should do). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 17:05:35 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Easy on Sat May 24 09:54:16 2008. Israel was not created by the UN. The General Assembly can't pass binding resolutions. The Security Council never voted on the issue.NEXT! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 17:07:02 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat May 24 12:56:51 2008. You smoke very potent hallucinogens! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 17:13:59 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 11:58:51 2008. That's NOT COOL, despite what you think of his post. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:18:16 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 11:58:51 2008. Nice attitude and nice respect for authority. Bring that off the internet, and you'll be sitting in Rikers for a very long time. Kiss your already-shaky credbility goodbye, you lowlife. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:20:12 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by MJF on Sat May 24 10:38:42 2008. This is why I've always wanted to hear the other side of the story. We've only heard one side. I don't blame Jeff for being angry and somehow I doubt he'd go that far. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:21:59 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Easy on Fri May 23 22:25:44 2008. I trust EU propaganda more than I trust your propagandaI don't put out propaganda like the EU does. (I'm glad you acknolwedged that they do put out propaganda! because one day you'll see it all for what it really is and you'll be kicking yourself for not listening to me sooner.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:22:22 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by J trainloco on Fri May 23 22:32:51 2008. No, it's false. Why don't you investigate for yourself instead of being a troll? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:22:52 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Easy on Sat May 24 13:58:32 2008. Everything. Look at it again. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:25:37 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 02:44:24 2008. Of course they may. But instead, numbers of them want to break treaties with the USA and beg the UN to recognize their independence. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:26:44 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Easy on Sat May 24 12:53:16 2008. You have no clue about foreign policy, do you. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 17:26:56 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat May 24 17:13:59 2008. That's NOT COOL, despite what you think of his post.I really don't care. This forum has turned into complete crap over the past several months. I used to post here all the time, now I do far far less. All this anti-Islam paranoia has ruined it. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 17:27:14 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat May 24 09:20:24 2008. Or until the Trials Division would have had you up on charges and ended your career and your pension. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:30:50 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 17:27:14 2008. I really can't wait for the other side of the story. I wanna hear from all the cops that supposedly "harassed" (or whatever) Nilette Ralerode. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:31:23 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by RonInBayside on Fri May 23 22:32:47 2008. Now that's living. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 24 17:33:25 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 17:26:56 2008. The attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon kind of indicate it's not paranoia. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:37:41 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 24 17:33:25 2008. Meh; ignore him. He likes to insult former cops. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat May 24 17:38:47 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 17:26:56 2008. I just read your blog, seems like you had a bad day on the 22nd. What did the lady say to you after you ranted to her? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 17:46:51 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by LuchAAA on Sat May 24 17:33:25 2008. No, the attacks onthe World Trade center and Pentagon have nothing to do with it. They are simply used as excuses for justufying your ignorance and bigotry. You feel safe putting on your skinhead garb now. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 18:10:17 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by RonInBayside on Sat May 24 17:46:51 2008. the attacks onthe World Trade center and Pentagon have nothing to do with itWith the subject of the thread? No; they are intertwined. And you of all people have no right to accuse others of being ignorant and bigoted. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 18:11:12 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 17:26:56 2008. anti-Islam paranoiaThat's not what it is. If you weren't so self-concerned, you'd understand that. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 18:17:28 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 14:21:08 2008. Israel has no such fear; you make this crap up.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sat May 24 18:33:05 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Easy on Sat May 24 12:53:16 2008. I see your point, but afaik we send communications to these countries. It's not like we spontaneously bomb right out of the blue and take over, like nuts suggest. I thought we did something with saddam for decades.He's the one who denied allowing inspections, or talks or anything. Mainly because of Iran...but what you're suggesting is talking against their will. I wonder if there's a such thing as diplomatic rape. And like Barack, the only officials against the war turned out to all be tied in with the m$$lah. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:08:00 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 14:03:43 2008. Yes, the weaponry is better now, too. Still Israel is highly competent and adapts quickly. I read in the news that Israel is talking with Hezbollah; there's no official cease-fire but if you ask either side they say something to the effect of "well, if they don't shoot at us we don't shoot at them". Still, this doesn't take the pot off the burner, but Israel keeps the channels open with everyone. As Daniel Levy says "If you're not talking to everyone, you're going to be Chalabied every time." Good advice, a bit late for the U.S. but good to keep in mind nonetheless.Israel reportedly owns between 75 and 200 nuclear warheads, depending on whom you ask, which could be idle rumor or could not. We all know they have the bomb, and numbers aside, even if they only have 15, that's more than anyone else in the region has and it's probably time for them to come out of the nuclear closet. The days of keeping it secret to prevent a local arms race are long over and it would most likely behoove Israel to play that card. And maybe they are, behind closed doors. Let's hope they're getting somewhere. And then there's George Bush, sounding like he's reading off the OTChat/DiaperChat script in front of the Knesset, with McCain echoing on the campaign trail. Such wrongheadedness only points downward for us; no wonder they're smearing Obama so desperately. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:09:25 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 18:17:28 2008. Israel has no such fearRight. They're continually retreating and "have no such fear". No wonder Train Dude calls you "Herr". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:12:04 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:08:00 2008. if you ask either side they say something to the effect of "well, if they don't shoot at us we don't shoot at them"False. Hezbollah doesn't say that. You still don't understand Iran, do you? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:15:19 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:09:25 2008. Show me evidence of this fear, at least more than Train Dude calling me "Herr". I mean has Israeli policy changed because of what happens in Berlin in 2008? No, of course not.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:25:41 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:15:19 2008. Show me evidence of this fearWest Bank turnover; current talks that will most likely result in handing over Golan Heighs. Inspired by the failed Oslo Accords. (Remember, I said Germany and its allies. Why are you so defensive of Germany? Theodore Roosevelt would tell you that you're an American and nothing else.) You at least agree that Hezbollah hides behind innocent civilians when they do their dirty work? I mean has Israeli policy changed because of what happens in Berlin in 2008? Why; what's happening that you're alluding to? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:29:51 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:25:41 2008. Oh, thought so, you have no evidence other than to accuse me of defending Germany.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:47:39 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:29:51 2008. you have no evidenceWhy are you being dismissive? That's evidence; just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it not evidence. Again, I said "Germany and its allies" (pay attention this time). You know, the ones that fund the Palestinians out the wazoo. And the irony is that Israel's asking for Germany's help against the terrorists. Germany's a member of the UN Human Rights Council. While they extend the olive branch on one hand, they condemn Israel via this body on the other (their supposed "vote against" is outweight by the pro-votes of the other EU members, which they control in spite of your disbelief that they do). That's quite duplicitous of them, don't you think? (Canada and UK are part of this "council", but the USA is not.) And you're getting defensive over it being pointed out that you're being defensive? That's double defensiveness. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:47:44 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:29:51 2008. you have no evidenceWhy are you being dismissive? That's evidence; just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it not evidence. Again, I said "Germany and its allies" (pay attention this time). You know, the ones that fund the Palestinians out the wazoo. And the irony is that Israel's asking for Germany's help against the terrorists. Germany's a member of the UN Human Rights Council. While they extend the olive branch on one hand, they condemn Israel via this body on the other (their supposed "vote against" is outweight by the pro-votes of the other EU members, which they control in spite of your disbelief that they do). That's quite duplicitous of them, don't you think? (Canada and UK are part of this "council", but the USA is not.) And you're getting defensive over it being pointed out that you're being defensive? That's double defensiveness. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:47:57 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:29:51 2008. you have no evidenceWhy are you being dismissive? That's evidence; just because you don't want to believe it doesn't make it not evidence. Again, I said "Germany and its allies" (pay attention this time). You know, the ones that fund the Palestinians out the wazoo. And the irony is that Israel's asking for Germany's help against the terrorists. Germany's a member of the UN Human Rights Council. While they extend the olive branch on one hand, they condemn Israel via this body on the other (their supposed "vote against" is outweighed by the pro-votes of the other EU members, which they control in spite of your disbelief that they do). That's quite duplicitous of them, don't you think? (Canada and UK are part of this "council", but the USA is not.) And you're getting defensive over it being pointed out that you're being defensive? That's double defensiveness. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 20:35:09 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 19:47:57 2008. Yeah but what if you're wrong? Then I'm not being defensive but you're being offensive and that cancels out some defensiveness unless of course I become offensive :DI see your points but don't see Israel being affected by this in some fearful way. Yes there are condemnations but aren't they over the settlements still being built? Israel is in the wrong on that issue. I have to run an errand but there's more. I didn't want to unleash the crickets. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 20:46:20 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 20:35:09 2008. but what if you're wrong?If you would care to show me how I could be wrong, then go ahead. Germany's been quite aggressive since 1991 (we almost fell out with them over Croatia and Slovenia back then) and they haven't backed down from a challenge since. Yes there are condemnations but aren't they over the settlements still being built? Israel is in the wrong on that issue What are Israel's "human rights abuses"? Why the comparisons between Israel and the Nazis? Those allegations are separate from any (still disputed) settlement issues. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 21:35:45 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat May 24 17:38:47 2008. I just read your blog, seems like you had a bad day on the 22nd. What did the lady say to you after you ranted to her?I didn't actually rant to her, just sort of swore in general. It was just the frustration of not being able to find a seat, plus having had an extremely busy, high-pressure day at work, and most of all the fact that it felt like someone was pounding nails into my jawbone. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat May 24 21:41:07 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Fred G on Sat May 24 19:08:00 2008. Israel reportedly owns between 75 and 200 nuclear warheads, depending on whom you ask, which could be idle rumor or could not. We all know they have the bomb, and numbers aside, even if they only have 15, that's more than anyone else in the region has and it's probably time for them to come out of the nuclear closet. The days of keeping it secret to prevent a local arms race are long over and it would most likely behoove Israel to play that card. And maybe they are, behind closed doors. Let's hope they're getting somewhere.Iran is a total joke in military terms. It is no match whatsoever for Israel even in a conventional war. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat May 24 21:57:42 2008, in response to Re: Israel and Syria are TALKING, posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 24 17:22:22 2008. YOU are the only troll here. Even your handle proclaims it.I Googled it and there was the proff that Olog-hai is a troll - from Middle Earth. Go back there and cease bothering us. |
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