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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 22:29:30 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 19:25:53 2025. But what you perceive as eliminating portions of the Constitution have to do with the NYC mayoral race? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 22:31:37 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 19:24:31 2025. "...but you guys are just making this up."No we are not. Its out there and on the record |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 15 22:46:21 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 22:31:37 2025. Yes! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 15 23:01:27 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 19:25:53 2025. That's a blanket accusation with only proof by assertion supporting it. Sounds like the same Democratic talking point in use since 2015; better discard it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 15 23:04:16 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 19:24:31 2025. It's unconstitutional to base tax rate on neighborhood or ethnic makeupRed herring. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 15 23:12:59 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Oct 15 13:42:48 2025. When the Japanese anime Science Ninja Team Gatchaman got turned into Battle Of The Planets, the character Berg Katse got renamed "Zoltar".![]() |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 16 01:20:40 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Oct 15 06:07:34 2025. It's corporate, not the generation. Your name tag is your first name. Your boss is by [her] first name. Customer service wants to call you by your first name.I decline all of it. I posted about it being the cause of the fall of civilization. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 16 01:22:47 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Oct 15 16:22:17 2025. This is bad for America. I used to say that everytime NYC has an election my pizza gets better.But now we're scrapping bottom. We don't need more New Yorkers and Californians driving up the prices for their poor decisions. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 07:58:51 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 22:29:30 2025. The reference, in the post I was responding to, to using eminent domain to seize the bank accounts of NYC residents. That would be contrary to the Constitution. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 08:00:08 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 22:31:37 2025. Link for any Mamdani proposal that would raise real estate taxes on whites more than on minorities? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 08:30:06 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 08:00:08 2025. Q. Did mamdani say he would tax white neighborhoods more?A. Yes. Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic and Socialist candidate for New York City mayor, has explicitly said he wants to “shift the tax burden” to “richer and whiter neighborhoods.” This statement appears both in public interviews and in a housing policy document published on his official campaign website Mamdani’s proposal, titled “Supporting Homeowners and Ending Deed Theft,” argues that New York City’s property tax system unfairly favors wealthy, predominantly white neighborhoods, particularly in Manhattan and affluent parts of Brooklyn, while overtaxing working-class areas like Brownsville, Jamaica, and the Bronx. His plan would lower property taxes for lower-income outer borough homeowners by raising rates on more expensive homes in wealthier areas. However, Mamdani has said repeatedly that his proposal is not motivated by race, emphasizing that “whiter” neighborhoods are simply a factual description of those that currently pay less due to old assessment caps |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 09:35:31 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 08:30:06 2025. Ah, assessment caps. OK, getting rid of those would raise taxes on the homes that have appreciated the most.As a beneficiary of an assessment cap, that gives me yet another reason not to vote for him. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 09:38:15 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 08:30:06 2025. Do you have a link? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 11:35:43 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 08:30:06 2025. Typical Communist M/O. In addition to confiscating property, its confiscating $$$ by the govt via unfair race based taxation to distribute to lower income homeowners.Key word here...confiscation, like what Castro did in Cuba. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 12:28:11 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 11:35:43 2025. I can’t believe how many people go for this. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 13:02:08 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 12:28:11 2025. Simple...people believe what they want to believe regardless of facts or reality around them. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 13:15:39 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 13:02:08 2025. Like sheeple |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 13:38:25 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 11:35:43 2025. Typical Communist M/O.Huh? I don't recall Fidel or anyone implementing the revolution by removing a cap on real estate tax assessments. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 13:47:04 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 13:38:25 2025. You miss my point. Fidel promised the Cuban people the world to be provided by the government, then declared that he was a Marxist-Leninist. Then proceeded to run a beautiful country straight into the ground with his socialist-Communist policies. Fidel's mentality and Mamadi's proposals seem somewhat similar, no? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 14:42:13 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 13:47:04 2025. Yes, they have their similarities.But nothing that Mamdani has proposed is Communism. It's socialism, which is also bad. I'm objecting to the exaggeration going on here, not claiming that Mamdani's politics are good. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 15:29:44 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 12:28:11 2025. I can believe it. People are stupid.We really need to stop encouraging voter turnout. I don’t think we need to suppress voting, it should still be easy to vote, but we should stop propagandizing people with the idea that it’s a civic failing if you don’t vote. Choosing not to vote is a valid choice and people who don’t know the difference between the candidates or say “both parties are the same” should just choose not to vote. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 17:23:13 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Oct 16 11:35:43 2025. I don't support the proposal, or most any Mamdani proposal, but this isn't really confiscation, it's just a change in the calculation of property tax rates.It's not strictly race-based, but he really stepped into it by saying that the effect would disproportionally affect people of one race, even though the proposal is otherwise race-neutral on its face. It just goes to show how obsessed the left is with race and national origin. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 17:54:12 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 08:30:06 2025. So do you actually have a link?I'd like to have a link so I can persuade some people I know about how radical Mamdani really is. But as I said, I can't find his supposed plan to get rid of the assessment cap anywhere. If this bit about the assessment cap is really true it ought to be spread around like crazy. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 18:51:11 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 17:23:13 2025. I don't support the proposal, or most any Mamdani proposal, but this isn't really confiscation, it's just a change in the calculation of property tax rates.The assessment cap removal is not confiscation, but it is pretty radical. The real estate taxes my neighbors and I would pay (which are already 50% of all our annual operational expenses) would quintuple if the cap were removed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 18:57:18 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 17:54:12 2025. You can just search his question and you’ll get the same result. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 19:25:31 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 16 18:57:18 2025. I get an AI response, and also a NY Post article, neither of which mention the assessment caps. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 21:37:45 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 14:42:13 2025. What is the exaggeration? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 16 21:42:20 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 18:51:11 2025. It's for the public good. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 22:47:44 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Oct 16 21:42:20 2025. Yes it is. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 08:50:39 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Oct 16 21:37:45 2025. Calling him a communist rather than a socialist. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 10:15:56 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 19:25:31 2025. The post article links a PDF by the Mamdani campaign. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 12:18:33 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 10:15:56 2025. Ah, Ok. His proposals aren't as radical as I feared. That also means they aren't likely to achieve his goal of getting people in wealthier neighborhoods to pay a greater percentage of taxes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:47:22 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 17:22:09 2025. He could have attacked Mamdani in any number of ways that actually reflect Mamdani's radical beliefs, but instead he decided to go the insane route.That's the problem with MAGA types, even when they could be right they go the extra mile to be wrong. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:47:36 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Oct 15 18:41:43 2025. IAWTP |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:47:51 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 19:25:53 2025. Such as? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:50:39 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 16 07:58:51 2025. It was irrelevant.It also has nothing to do with the Constitution per se, as it just is a misuse of the term "eminent domain." So a bank account would be seized and then the government would send you a check for the exact balance? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 14:52:30 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:50:39 2025. It also has nothing to do with the Constitution per seHe said Mamdani would engage in seizures which are forbidden by the 4th amendment. Of course those seizures have nothing to do with eminent domain. I said that in my original reply. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 15:12:32 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:47:51 2025. Trump and his allies have given strong lip service to actions that violate:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion Having William Pulte search through the records of Trump's entire list of enemies for anything that could remotely be construed as mortgage fraud violates: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Arresting US citizens for not carrying proof of citizenship on their person (asserting without proof that they are illegal aliens) also violates the above. Abrogating a signed contract violates: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 17 15:15:18 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 12:47:22 2025. Since after 25 years or so, I would have liked to have Mamdani asked point blank if he ever condemned the 9/11 attacks. After all these years 9/11 is still very much an open wound on the hearts and minds of many. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 15:36:18 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 17 15:15:18 2025. There's this - "nearly 3,000 lives stolen in an act of terror" |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Oct 17 15:37:53 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 15 17:22:09 2025. I got a lot of people you need to explain this too who have been victims of overpolicing.We'll find a way to follow Canada and England. The Demonkkkrats always find a way. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 15:42:49 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Oct 17 15:37:53 2025. We'll find a way to follow Canada and England.Can you cite any cases of Canada and England seizing bank accounts in the manner the prior poster is describing? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 17 16:00:32 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 15:36:18 2025. Thanks for the link, but all he is sharing there is an accounting of what happened which most of us know by now. I didn't notice any condemnation of the terrorists nor any encouragement to continue the ongoing fight to bring to justice anyone still out there who hasn't met their fate yet. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Oct 17 16:18:06 2025, in response to Re: Zohran for NYC, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 17 15:42:49 2025. Wow, I haven't seen a troll post like this since a guy on X wanted to know the names of the babies beheaded by Hamasocrats because it's all fake.I bet you'll stick by yours just as fervently too. |
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