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Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 3 15:04:31 2025

Examples:

- The Second Avenue Subway. But of course. If this were better known outside the city it would make NYC the laughingstock of the nation. Building it would be a tremendous economic boost to parts of Upper Manhattan and the Bronx, which today are big fat zeros in economic terms.

- Continued failure to build new Hudson tunnels. Everyone has recognized the need for these for decades. If built with sufficient clearances they also would provide double stack access east of the river.

- Speaking of tunnels, the disruption that will result from the East River tunnel repairs will be bad enough, what makes it worse is that the tunnels need repairs because of Hurricane Sandy almost 13 years ago!

- Letting nature reclaim the old Rockaway line in Queens when it could be a vital link in the transportation network. Dishonorable mention to the failure to reinstitute passenger service on the Bay Ridge line.

- Allowing Floyd Bennett Field to just remain there economically worthless when the city urgently needs industrial space now that WFH has hit office jobs so hard.

- Although it’s finally done, East Side Access took FAR too long as cost FAR too much.

- On a similar note, the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site took way longer than it should have, especially since it was a tremendously symbolic sign of the city’s recovery.

- How’s that rail link to LaGuardia Airport going?

- The Javits Center urgently needs a huge expansion so it can complete with the megacenters in Chicago, Atlanta, Las Vegas and Orlando for the biggest and most lucrative conventions.

- Finally, NYC seems to be the only major city that hasn’t quite figured out how to install and operate public restrooms.



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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:14:36 2025, in response to Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 3 15:04:31 2025.

Excellent points.

It's sad to see NYC lagging in areas other cities lead in.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 16:19:08 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:14:36 2025.

Several of his points are out of The City of New York's purvey.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:21:45 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 16:19:08 2025.

Some of it is because our unions are too powerful. Liberals like to complain about regulatory capture by corporations, but ignore the same when it’s a union.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 3 16:36:43 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:21:45 2025.

You would have to go back to the heyday of the UAW in Detroit or the Steelworkers in Pittsburgh to find examples of unions that had as much power as the unions do in NYC today.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:47:15 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 16:19:08 2025.

Purvey. Good word for the SAT's.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:49:49 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:21:45 2025.

The unions are orgasming over Mamdandi. He might raise more money than any mayoral candidate in NYC and US history.

Anyway the unions are weaker than ever. I think the workforce isn't up to the task of building like previous generations.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:54:53 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:49:49 2025.

On a national level maybe, but in NYC they still have a stranglehold over some industries.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 17:54:38 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:54:53 2025.

That's because the "bentnoses" are behind the scenes.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 17:55:29 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:47:15 2025.

Thanks!

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 17:58:35 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 17:54:38 2025.

I don’t get that reference.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 17:59:20 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 17:55:29 2025.

Did you really mean purview but it was a typo? (Purvey is a real word too)

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 3 18:25:20 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 17:59:20 2025.

The context only makes sense if he meant purview.



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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 08:37:15 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 17:58:35 2025.

Mob

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 08:51:11 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 08:37:15 2025.

Thanks.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 08:53:19 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 16:21:45 2025.

Organized labor has been called a lumbering dinosaur.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 4 08:57:03 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jul 3 17:54:38 2025.

Leave the Jews out of this.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 09:56:28 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 3 16:49:49 2025.

Which union is?

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 11:04:33 2025, in response to Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 3 15:04:31 2025.

Floyd Bennett is part of the National Park Service and off limits to your fantasy of megafactories. And none of us that live near there want a factory there.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 11:06:20 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 11:04:33 2025.

OMG! 💯

Empty space doesn’t always have to be built on, and it’s also a historic site.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 11:18:51 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 11:04:33 2025.

Especially given the current administration in Washington I’m quite sure FBF could be removed from the National Park Service for conversion to private use. And the wishes of NYC residents don’t count. They’ve proved themselves to be incapable of understanding that the world has changed and the old ways don’t work anymore. In fact, the city’s voters display a weird Whip-Me-again-Master passivity, a prime example being the way they’ve let generations of politicians get away unpunished for the Second Avenue Subway debacle.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 11:25:16 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 17:59:20 2025.

I KNEW one of you was going to be unsure of which word. Either can be used. One as a scope of what they can do, the other is what they can actually do.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 11:25:31 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 3 18:25:20 2025.

See my response

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 12:27:29 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 11:18:51 2025.

You’re one to talk about “old ways” given your obsession with factories.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 12:28:17 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 11:25:16 2025.

No, purvey is a verb.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 12:33:17 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 12:27:29 2025.

Manufacturing is this country’s future, given WFH (can’t do factory jobs at home) and a white collar job market that’s nearly at Great Depression levels.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 12:40:58 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 12:28:17 2025.

It means what they can do, to promote. Anyways, you know the gist.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 12:41:57 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 4 08:57:03 2025.

Not them.

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Re: Examples of…?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 4 12:50:34 2025, in response to Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jul 3 15:04:31 2025.

Your silly catchphrase "typical New York incompetence" is never going to catch on. Abandon it.

What you are citing, aside from those things that are on topic (versus what belongs here in OTChat), is left-wing intransigence rather than "incompetence". All those projects belong in the private sector but the left did a hostile government takeover of those systems decades ago (at municipal, state and federal levels) and only those that the powers that be approve of are what gets done.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 4 13:22:02 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 11:25:16 2025.

The City of New York has a purview.

The City of New York is not a purveyor of subways, rail lines, big buildings, etc. That's not how the words purvey and purveyor are used.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 4 13:43:06 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 12:33:17 2025.

Manufacturing is this country’s future

Modern manufacturing requires capital overwhelmingly more than it requires labor. Any new manufacturing which is still labor-intensive doesn't pay US minimum wage.





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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 13:46:04 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 4 13:22:02 2025.

OMG, I wasn't using it like that!

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 4 13:57:08 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 13:46:04 2025.

Several of his points are out of The City of New York's purvey.



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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 14:00:55 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 11:18:51 2025.

Absolutely not.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 4 14:03:43 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 12:33:17 2025.

Lol

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Re: Examples of…?

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 4 14:21:47 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jul 4 12:33:17 2025.

All the leftists you love so much sent manufacturing out of the country. Still haven't got it?

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Re: Examples of…?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 16:27:47 2025, in response to Re: Examples of…?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 4 12:50:34 2025.

It’s the incessant hearings and need to placate “stakeholders.”

We need a new Robert Moses.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 17:25:32 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 4 13:43:06 2025.

PWNED!

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Re: Examples of…?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 4 17:30:04 2025, in response to Re: Examples of…?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 4 14:21:47 2025.

It wasn’t lefties who did that.

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Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Jul 4 18:03:26 2025, in response to Re: Examples of Typical New York Incompetence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jul 4 08:37:15 2025.

We used to call them the men with the cigars

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