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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech?
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Nov 24 06:11:36 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 01:21:22 2022.* compare this to suspending Putin lackey's (sic) for undermining our country with their falsehoods Eh? Biden and Obama were never suspended, nor anyone like them.
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Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Nov 24 06:30:57 2022, in response to Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 20 03:32:27 2022.* Associated Press Elon Musk’s Twitter reinstates Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Elon Musk’s Twitter has reinstated the personal account of far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, which was banned in January for violating the platform’s COVID misinformation policies. The Georgia Republican’s reinstatement comes after Musk over the weekend reinstated the account of former President Donald Trump, who was banned in the aftermath of the deadly Jan. 6 riots on the Capitol in 2021. Twitter — at the time — feared there was a risk of further incitement to violence if Trump were allowed to remain on the platform. Trump himself has said he won’t return to Twitter and as of Monday had not tweeted since the reinstatement, although he also hasn’t deleted his account. Musk apparently based his decision to allow Trump back on the site on an unscientific Twitter poll he posted on his timeline. There appeared to be no such poll for Greene’s account. Earlier, Musk said he would not make major decisions about content or restoring banned accounts before setting up a “ content moderation council ” with diverse viewpoints. Neither Twitter nor Musk have announced the existence of such a council. Twitter did not respond to a message for comment on Monday. Musk has frequently expressed his belief that Twitter had become too restrictive. Before the U.S. midterm elections this month, he urged his “independent-minded” Twitter followers to vote Republican. One account Musk has said he won’t allow back on Twitter is that of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who was banned in 2018 for abusive behavior. “My firstborn child died in my arms. I felt his last heartbeat,” Musk tweeted Sunday in response to calls for Jones’ reinstatement. “I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics or fame.” Jones was sued by victims’ families for promoting false conspiracy theories about the Sandy Hook school massacre. Judgements against him have totaled $1.44 billion.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Thu Nov 24 07:21:26 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Nov 24 05:26:14 2022.*
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Thu Nov 24 07:39:01 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Nov 24 07:21:26 2022.* Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by AlM* on Thu Nov 24 09:25:04 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 24 03:11:21 2022.* Comment on a Musk article about Twitter in Wapo. Not a reliable source. But I liked the joke.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by bingbong* on Thu Nov 24 13:48:10 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 09:25:04 2022.* +1!
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 14:03:56 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 09:25:04 2022.* So it didn’t happen. Thanks.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Nov 24 14:53:56 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 22 14:39:55 2022.* "...and was perceived to be anti-minority (this is debatable, though)." It certainly is debatable. Just to think that race hustler Al Sharpton gave Trump praise for his minority hiring practices within his construction companies. This coming from a guy who would just as soon spit on white people as talk to them, I'd say its quite an accomplishment on Trump's part.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by AlM* on Thu Nov 24 15:05:54 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 24 14:03:56 2022.* There is not conclusive evidence that it did happen, nor that it didn't happen. Based on the general sanity of Post commenters, my opinion is that it's more likely than not that the post and the suspension happened. Naturally there is not the slightest evidence, if the suspension happened, that Musk caused it.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Thu Nov 24 15:12:27 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 01:21:22 2022.* Source?
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 15:15:44 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 14:53:56 2022.* This has little to do with his administration, though. Although even if it wasn’t bigoted against blacks doesn’t mean it wasn’t bigoted against anyone else. The so-called “Muslim ban” and the family separation policy stand out. And then his first AG was Jefferson Beauregard Sessions.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 15:16:14 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 15:05:54 2022.* I disagree completely.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 15:16:20 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 15:05:54 2022.* Based on reading Elon Musk's tweets over the last few months, I think that is extremely unlikely to have happened. That's the type of moderating that he despises. The joke is obviously satire and can't be confused with being true. I'd estimate that there's less than a 0.001% chance that anyone was ever banned from Twitter for that joke either now or pre-Musk. I'm not ruling out that someone who posted that joke was banned for some other reason.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 15:16:46 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 24 15:16:20 2022.* Excellent post.
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Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Thu Nov 24 15:20:30 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Not Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Thu Nov 24 15:05:54 2022.* LOL!!!
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Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech
Posted by AlM* on Thu Nov 24 15:31:17 2022, in response to Re: Elon Musk Is Against Free Speech, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Nov 24 15:12:27 2022.* see my interchange with S-P
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Nov 24 15:34:38 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 24 15:15:44 2022.* The "Muslim ban" (BTW which I disagreed with this broad brush approach) was knee jerk reaction to 9/11. Family separation happens when a parent is in custody and the kids are not. Normal procedure practiced by law enforcement worldwide. When daddy is arrested with his kids in NYC, daddy gets locked up, kids get "separated" and go to a relative or social services. Kids do not go to jail with him. Same thing at the border. Daddy gets arrested with his kids for illegal entry, kids get separated and don't get locked up for what daddy did.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 15:56:25 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 15:34:38 2022.* 9/11 had been 15 years earlier. The Patriot Act was a reaction to 9/11. The “Muslim Ban” was just red meat to his base. This family separation was not done prior to Trump. And children remained separated from their parents for years. It was a form of kidnapping. And these people were seeking asylum. Something that remained legal for all of Trump’s regrettable administration.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Nov 24 18:50:22 2022, in response to Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 24 06:30:57 2022.* bump
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Nov 24 19:05:05 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 15:34:38 2022.* What "Muslim ban"?
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 19:17:08 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 24 18:50:22 2022.* She's already tweeting and has called California state legislator Wiener a communist groomer that advocates mutilating kids.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 19:31:25 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 24 19:05:05 2022.* The one that was so-called. Pay attention.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 19:54:10 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 15:34:38 2022.* The "Muslim ban" (BTW which I disagreed with this broad brush approach) was knee jerk reaction to 9/11. Was it broad brush. 47 countries have a Muslim majority and only 7 of those countries were banned.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 19:54:18 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 15:34:38 2022.* The "Muslim ban" (BTW which I disagreed with this broad brush approach) was knee jerk reaction to 9/11. Was it broad brush? 47 countries have a Muslim majority and only 7 of those countries were banned.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Nov 24 19:55:58 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 24 19:54:18 2022.* Using the term "Muslim ban" carries that implication
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Thu Nov 24 19:59:41 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 24 15:56:25 2022.* So 9/11 didn't go into "Muslim Ban" thinking?
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 20:00:13 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 19:55:58 2022.* Wasn't that the term used by those opposed to the ban? I think that the administration called it a "travel ban".
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Easy* on Thu Nov 24 20:01:02 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 19:55:58 2022.* Wasn't that the term used by those opposed to the ban? I think that the administration called it a "travel ban".
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 20:09:55 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 19:55:58 2022.* No, it doesn’t. It’s the common name. Hence “so-called ‘Muslim ban’”.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Thu Nov 24 20:11:01 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Nov 24 19:59:41 2022.* They didn’t ban immigration from anywhere until another 15 years had passed.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Nov 24 20:55:42 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 24 19:17:08 2022.* She could be correct
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Nov 24 20:57:32 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 24 19:54:10 2022.* Shhhhh. Don't mess with the little guy's rant
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Orange Blossom Special* on Thu Nov 24 23:18:16 2022, in response to Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 20 03:32:27 2022.* Spider-Pigs favorite poster, the Ayatollah has never been suspended. Twitter even used to defend him, to cheers of Demonkkkrats all over.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Nov 25 05:17:36 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Easy on Thu Nov 24 19:17:08 2022.* He's the San Francisco rep that sponsored the transgender "care" for children bill, so that's what she's referring to.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Avid Reader* on Fri Nov 25 12:51:50 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 25 05:17:36 2022.* sponsored the transgender "care" for children bill, That is code for child mutilation and genocide. Until human cloning is perfected and legalized they will not be able to reproduce unless female eggs are harvested before the subject is being mutilated. .
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Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech
Posted by Avid Reader* on Fri Nov 25 14:18:12 2022, in response to Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Nov 23 18:59:43 2022.* Thanks for the correction.
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Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech
Posted by Avid Reader* on Fri Nov 25 14:24:04 2022, in response to Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 17:07:04 2022.* SO, you allege you did, yet can't or won't point to any. Maybe what YOU think are falsehoods on my part are strictly you own opinions gone wrong.
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Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri Nov 25 14:42:02 2022, in response to Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Nov 25 14:24:04 2022.* AlM is a clown who should be mocked buy never be taken seriously.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Kevin from Midwood* on Fri Nov 25 15:21:27 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 24 20:55:42 2022.* It's yet more Pizzagate/QAnon rhetoric from the right, like when Elise Stefanik blamed the "usual pedo grifters" for the infant formula shortage.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by AlM* on Fri Nov 25 15:33:52 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 24 18:50:22 2022.* Meh. I bet Coca Cola doesn't want its ads running next to an MTG post. Capitalism at work.
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Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech
Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Fri Nov 25 15:36:01 2022, in response to Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Nov 25 14:18:12 2022.* You're welcome
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by Easy* on Fri Nov 25 15:38:37 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Nov 25 15:21:27 2022.* As long as you don't follow extremists they shouldn't be an issue. Our laws apparently allow unproven and fabricated criticism and accusations surrounding public officials without any repercussions.
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Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech AndvA Hypocrite
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri Nov 25 16:21:09 2022, in response to Re: Bingbong Is Against Free Speech, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Nov 25 15:36:01 2022.* While the bingbongs demand "believe the woman" and fight against violence committed against women?, this stupid bitch supports Warnock even though his wife complains that he tried to run her over.
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Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account
Posted by AlM* on Fri Nov 25 16:31:52 2022, in response to Re: Musk reinstates MTG’s Twitter account, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 25 15:38:37 2022.* Our laws apparently allow unproven and fabricated criticism and accusations surrounding public officials without any repercussions. The Sullivan v NY Times decision isn't quite as broad as that. For example, Sarah Palin was able to sue the NY Times (the judge didn't dismiss the case out of hand); she just didn't convince the jury that the Times had acted with "malice."
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Wed Dec 14 18:21:05 2022, in response to Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 20 03:32:27 2022.*
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Dec 14 18:25:39 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 14 18:21:05 2022.* ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Wed Dec 14 18:27:46 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 14 18:25:39 2022.* figures
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by AlM* on Wed Dec 14 18:56:08 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 20 03:35:44 2022.* Isn't that what free speech is all about? Speech for the purpose of influencing other people's conduct can have restrictions. For example, Sam Bankman-Fried is discovering it's not free speech to say "Hand over your money to me and I will invest it in cryptocurrency for you" when the statement isn't actually true. (I am of course ignoring the issue that private entities are free to censor speech as much as they want, just like Musk is doing now.)
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Dec 14 22:15:32 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 14 18:56:08 2022.* You lo@lmiberals really are gung ho about both the Government and private companies censoring people.
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Re: Guess who’s back, back again
Posted by AlM* on Wed Dec 14 22:29:42 2022, in response to Re: Guess who’s back, back again, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 14 22:15:32 2022.* I only support government "censorship" when the speech is of the SBF type. Do you think financial fraud ought to be speech that cannot be punished? Meanwhile, it looks like Republicans in Texas want to make information about abortion pills into prohibited speech.
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